Asal southern states India lo enduku undali

[Hydrockers]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:35 PM, AndhraneedSCS said:

Vidipothe North vallu ela brathukutharu? Kalisi unte manam andaram North vallani poshinchavachu ...

So same like hyd vallu migita dist vallani anocha alaga ?

[batman2]

1 hour ago, manadonga said:

Bjp ki south lo enni vachhayi 

ap tamilanadu kerala kalipi zero 

congress ki ap lo zero 

bjp-29

cong- 27

ycp- 22

dmk-21

trs-9

tdp-3

jds-1

[Hydrockers]

On 5/28/2020 at 3:31 AM, hyperbole said:

Nobody is arguing that center shouldn’t take a cut,  it is not about BJP vs Congress or the center, irrespective of who is at the top the tax devolutions are utter crap in my opinion.

even KA CM is complaining because in 2020-2021 they got a 8k crores cut in their tax devolution which is something we are talking about . What justifies UP receiving  18% and Bihar 9%? 27% Between 30 crore population and remaining 75% between 110 crore population? In what way is that justified when they are not even contributing that much
 

 

So develope kani states alage padi undali kinda antava

[batman2]

1 hour ago, manadonga said:

Bjp ki south lo enni vachhayi 

ap tamilanadu kerala kalipi zero 

congress ki ap lo zero 

so ap kerala TN is entire south india? or are you asking for another seperate "south of south india"?

btw dmk ki Karnataka,TG,AP and kerala lo entha vachindi?

[hyperbole]

16 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Look at Jharkhand...They are supplying coal to the nation, Iron ore, copper..Why should they supply ? Government of India owned companies do the mining here and contribute to deve eyes in Delhi but not Ranchi...

A coal, iron ore motham India use chesindi...Did we pay any royalty to Jharkhand? When we demand right share in the taxes, then we should start paying for royalties to other state’s resources too..

Yes, why Jharkand is lagging behind in every HR growth index is still a big question inspite of the all it’s mineral riches? The problem is not just money because we have pumping money to these states since 1980 but it is the social reforms in my opinion. South and west saw a lot of social reforms interms literacy, social equality etc..there is a level acceptablity for the socially backward in the south and west but severely lacking in north.the problem with BIMARU states is that too corrupt and casestist effed socitiety where upper castes wants to keep these socially backward still oppressed so that there is a clear demarcation in their societies. 
 

GOI giving them a free pass forever is like pouring water in a desert, create an economic  model where you incentivize the better performer among them based on like HR indexes etc..

[soodhilodaaram]

5 hours ago, veeraveeraleaks said:

Patriotism part pakkana pedithe................

 

1. Asal manaki higher posts ranivvaru. (After PV and deve gowda. I dont remember there was any) 

2. national parties all are north-based ( BJP, congress etc)

3. Anni budgets lo southern states ki hand istharu ( Yearly, railways etc)

4. Revenue icchedhi maname  ( TG, AP, TN and KA). Love da lo Bihar, MP, UP, rajasthan lu peekedhi em ledhu akkada

eeeee love da lo North gallu chesedhi em ledhuuuuu. dadagiri thappa due to high population and more representation in parliament. 

1. Asal manaki higher posts ranivvaru. (After PV and deve gowda. I dont remember there was any) : southern states moved away from national parties, this helped them to get the boost as they moved away from congress, regional leaders have no way to become PM as long as national parties performed well

2. national parties all are north-based ( BJP, congress etc) : southern states are formed based on language not geography,  regional leaders who have local appeal do not become national leaders unless they have broader appeal through language (hindi), north states being connected by hindi not south states

3. Anni budgets lo southern states ki hand istharu ( Yearly, railways etc) : not true, southern states are still way ahead than north in terms of PCI, langas and jaffas feed this narrative as its convenient to blame center always, local resources are wasted for freebies to win elections, without fiscal responsibility they want everything to be paid by center, BJP is giving more to states than Congress/UPA has ever given to states

4. Revenue icchedhi maname  ( TG, AP, TN and KA). Love da lo Bihar, MP, UP, rajasthan lu peekedhi em ledhu akkada : BIMARU states were backward for 50yrs atleast, read about fiscal redistribution from rich to poor state until a minimum parity is reached, Bihar is not same as it was in 90's, reason is more assistance

eeeee love da lo North gallu chesedhi em ledhuuuuu. dadagiri thappa due to high population and more representation in parliament. 

local langa leaders blame when they dont get all what they ask for, if the state manages it finances well, the amount given by center is more than enough

no amount is sufficient for narrow minded local mofos who cant think beyond free stuff.. no those caste based mofo go fcuk yourselves, state is fcuekd already, next is you

Teddys might counter and defend current government just to support their caste, it doesnt change the fact that AP is fically fcuked for next 10 yrs

[soodhilodaaram]

4 minutes ago, hyperbole said:

Yes, why Jharkand is lagging behind in every HR growth index is still a big question inspite of the all it’s mineral riches? The problem is not just money because we have pumping money to these states since 1980 but it is the social reforms in my opinion. South and west saw a lot of social reforms interms literacy, social equality etc..there is a level acceptablity for the socially backward in the south and west but severely lacking in north.the problem with BIMARU states is that too corrupt and casestist effed socitiety where upper castes wants to keep these socially backward still oppressed so that there is a clear demarcation in their societies. 
 

GOI giving them a free pass forever is like pouring water in a desert, create an economic  model where you incentivize the better performer among them based on like HR indexes etc..

MP came up miles ahead from 90's, state leaders can screw up the state big time like the current AP one

good adminsitrator can make a lot of difference

[hyperbole]

12 minutes ago, Hydrockers said:

So develope kani states alage padi undali kinda antava

Dude andhra la inta mandi rich? Andhra is getting 60 paise on evry 1 rupee contribution and where UP is getting 2 rupees contribution.. that formula on how they calculate these devolutions are utter crap.

 

before tax devoutions 1971 population sensua prakaram chese vallu ippudu 2001 or 2011 seaua prakaram cheatunnaru. 1971 nundi progressive ga family planning chesi, literacy penchi te GOI iche incentive endi? Rewarding the rogues?

[soodhilodaaram]

1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

The arguement of states contributing for center anedi oka invalid arguement.

Just because a state os contributing more , that means that state is earning more and makes sense to make a bit more contribution to aid other states.

Idi emaina HUF leka muslim personal law kadu, evadi vaatalu vaadiki ivadaniki...idi Government, profit and non profit gurinchi chepadaniki provate companiy kadu...welfare chusdalsindi Government.

Southern India la water shortage aye scope chala ekuva vundi, Northern Plains is excess..repati dinam interlinking tho mahanadi-godavari-krishna-kaveri link chesthe, mari arou kuda ie arguement chesthara ? 

No state can live completely on their own...there is not even one state which can sustain completely on its own with its own resources, for most goods and services, inter state trade is very important and as long as all these exist, arguements like I am contributing more to taxes ane vaadana bekaar muchata...

perfectly said

[soodhilodaaram]

nationalism and patriotism is somehow missed in some states and regions due to over emphasis on regionalism and language, these idiots conveniently miss these during their arguements

[hyperbole]

4 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said:

MP came up miles ahead from 90's, state leaders can screw up the state big time like the current AP one

good adminsitrator can make a lot of difference

As per your agrument then why should MP have more tax devolution? it has the 3rd most

[soodhilodaaram]

1 minute ago, hyperbole said:

As per your agrument then why should MP have more tax devolution? it has the 3rd most

get per capital income by state and apply the distribution of centre funding

without even checking i am sure BJP is doing way better than congress MF's did 2014

[hyperbole]

2 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said:

get per capital income by state and apply the distribution of centre funding

without even checking i am sure BJP is doing way better than congress MF's did 2014

What did bJp doing any thing economically significant in last 6 years? All they are doing is riding the wave that congress kick started

[Android_Halwa]

11 minutes ago, hyperbole said:

Yes, why Jharkand is lagging behind in every HR growth index is still a big question inspite of the all it’s mineral riches? The problem is not just money because we have pumping money to these states since 1980 but it is the social reforms in my opinion. South and west saw a lot of social reforms interms literacy, social equality etc..there is a level acceptablity for the socially backward in the south and west but severely lacking in north.the problem with BIMARU states is that too corrupt and casestist effed socitiety where upper castes wants to keep these socially backward still oppressed so that there is a clear demarcation in their societies. 
 

GOI giving them a free pass forever is like pouring water in a desert, create an economic  model where you incentivize the better performer among them based on like HR indexes etc..

Exactly. Distribution of tax money  is not the problem but social reforms is the key...This is something that has to happen at society level, village level but I don't think government programs will be of any effect.

Consider this example : Even after dumping billions in UP and Bihar, it took almost 20-30 years to have basic access to education. The public education system in these states can be compared to what it was in the 90's in southern states. South is a generation ahead. Now, to improve education facilities on par with South India, it would take another 10 years and few billions. If we don't spend, we will never be able to pull BIMARU out of mess and become over burden to already burdened  system.

GOI giving them a free pass is indeed pouring water in the desert. Even if we create better economic models, welfare comes first to the government and they have to spend till the human dev index reached to a satisfactory level irrespective of how much money they make...This is how system has to work and if local economy  is able to push them a step ahead, that's only a bonus but not the criteria.

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How about india becoming something like European Union..common currency, being represented internationally as a single entity but autonomy internally