Tendulkar vs Dravid

[TrollBait]

18 hours ago, chittimallu_14 said:

Interestingly this news came today

Rahul Dravid beats Sachin Tendulkar in Wisden poll on greatest Indian Test batsman

 

Rahul Dravid is the greatest Indian Test batsman, according to a poll conducted on social media by Wisden India. Dravid beat Tendulkar by a narrow margin of votes in the final round of voting.

Dravid got 52 per cent of the votes, with as many as 11,400 fans taking part in the final round of voting. “Much like Dravid batted during his playing career, he dug in and fought back in the poll, eventually crossing the line with a decent lead at the very end,” said the Wisden India report.

The poll initially had 16 Indian batting greats, with Sunil Gavaskar and Virat Kohli being the two others to have made it through to the ‘semi finals’. Gavaskar beat Kohli in the ‘third-place play-off’ by a narrow margin.

 

READ | Dravid chooses Sachin Tendulkar to ‘bat for his life’

Speaking about Dravid and Tendulkar recently, their India teammate VVS Laxman had said Dravid had reached close to Tendulkar’s level with his ‘sheer hardwork’.

This was the poll that triggered the twitter discussion from which I posted that particular pic in the first post.

[chittimallu_14]

5 hours ago, TrollBait said:

This was the poll that triggered the twitter discussion from which I posted that particular pic in the first post.

ok nenu ninna ne choosa ee article ... I think it popped up on my FB feed 

 

[chittimallu_14]

5 hours ago, zarathustra said:

Yes his success in SA was quite inconsistent, he started well with that 1997 tour but hasn't hit the same high since then on SA tracks. I think he relished the English seaming tracks more than any other, also I think he was great on the tracks of West Indies. Sorry I hadn't checked his record on SA tracks but thought of him being pretty successful on those surfaces as well, guess I was wrong on that. 

I wouldn't say Dravid left Sachin in the dust as far as overseas records are concerned, they are for the most part pretty comparable. However, Dravid played in a more crucial position(no.3) and was the lynchpin of Indian batting along with Tendulkar for the most part of the 00s. Also I don't think Tendulkar was past his crime by the time Dravid hit his stride, Tendulkar's peak came in waves although he was for the most part very consistent throughout his career. 

Im a huge fan of Dravid since his debut. I dont know why but I used to like and enjoy his "jiddu" batting... many of my school friends used to tease me for being his fan in the very beginning. They used to call him a jiddu and a useless player. I was probably in 6th or 7th class back then, but later he grew a monster both in tests and ODIs and as we grow older, many others realised his value.

However, I wouldnt put him above Sachin overall. Sure Dravid is a better player in crisis situations and is very very adaptable with his versatility in changing gears between anchoring the innings, removing the shine of the ball and turning up the heat by few notches when needed. He was also extremely useful as a slip fielder, keeper and a good vice captain. Dravid edges Tendulkar in some aspects and Sachin edges Rahul in others.... but overall it has to be Sachin by a very fine margin... and there is nothing wrong or shameful in being the second best batsman for the country behind someone like Sachin.

I get it you mention about his average being high in england but you should also realise that england doesnt have a great bowling attck compared to australia or SA. Sachin is the best batsman there was and there will be, atleast not counting the players like Viv, Sunny, Gundappa Viswanath, etc who played in the previous generations and whom I have never watched play.

[SNaiduBack]

Anytime tendulkar is great 

[chittimallu_14]

Also the fact that tendulkar played for the national team against the legends like Marshall, Ambrose, Akram, etc at the age of 18-20 while Dravid hasnt even debuted for his state team defines how much of a prodigy Tendulkar is versus how much Rahul had to work hard to get so close to him.

[Mr47]

i find we made sachin to play more years than his capability and if he played for other teams definitely  he wouldnt have played more than ten years, he was best from 95 to 21 and coming to rahul dravid he was always overshadowed by other players in his team and he played any role for the team and always made  his bat to talk and he never ran for attention, he is grooming lot of young players in NCA and for me he was selfless player and everybody should look upto him as a perfect role model

[vachesa]

All this greatness or goat debate in team sports is very relative.. evari personal ishtalu vallaki vuntayi and people go search for stats/articles/incidents etc to support their view and more often than not there will be someone who agrees. A friend used to argue ganguly greater than sachin too which I feel is ridiculous and then captaincy matter open chestaru, anyway my point is that liking someone can happen at many different levels and everyone is right in their own way. Kontha mandi kambli ni tokkesaru lekapothe he would have surpassed sachin antaaru, there are many other hypothetical arguments, antha enduku I see many people supporting andy flower in this thread, I can even say he may not make the national team if he is playing in Ind, entha mandi Ranji players ended their career without playing for India

I was also one of those who felt dravid batting was boring and later when I understood cricket more and realized his importance, again I am one of those who felt he is one of all time greats

but nobody can deny the fact that sachin was a phenomenal player, one of a kind, irrespective of any stat for and against him...maybe I got connected with him more just when I was around 5th class, the age where you just believe anything and every one looks great, sachin was at his peak and felt like a superhero, all these sentences such as asking "sachin aadutunda" "sachin score entha" "sachin out aah ithe inka choodatam enduku" all these are very very true. People who don't understand cricket but still used to know sachin. I cannot name any other player who even comes close to having this kind of impact on kids or any generation. 

 

 

[Mr47]

i agree sachin is one of the greatest of all time and the half of his success is bought by media attention and he had lot of back up from bcci and mumbai board when he was out of form and still i remember when was close to 100 centuries and we asked sachin please score 100 centuries and then retire irrespective his form and where as dravid always played for the team and he finished his career without much fan fare even though he got the chance to retire in the ground. dravid said if players dont retire when they are not in form means they are blocking the next two generation players who are waiting to get into the team and thats what dravid is. If you take the dravid name on any day respect comes first and then stats. 

[ganesh]

I don’t understand why some of the people think sachin is selfish.. he dragged his career in the end..Its easy to say for everyone that smart players hang up their boots at the right time... we’ll no one is sachin, none of the other so called foreign greats or Indian greats have that craze... fan following bheebatsam ga unna prati vadiki aa aura nunchi ravatam chala kashtam.. that’s what we fans do.. it will get to them at some point and they keep eking something out of their career even though they have nothing left to prove..u take any one with huge following in India that’s what they do., mana Desham lo movie stars ki cricketers ki full craze anukunte.. take any individual with cult following and long careers it will be a lean patch in the end..I don’t remember sachin being selfish when he had great following in the nineties but not yet god status..he played some great innings played shots based on situation and not thinking of 90’s and got out...early 2000’s nunchi his status changed and team dynamics changed and obviously it gets to him..tennis elbow issues, couldn’t even pull ....after 2007 WC all credit Cricket fans were down..Guess what who rose upto the ocassion ya played great knocks? Sachin.. look at what he has done from 2008-2011..people of his age and even a year older to him says they looked upto sachin before coming into the team., not sure how many sportsman’s can have this kind of an impact on same age group...some people like underdog stories And get attracted to lesser known players, those players are amazing and play for the country...lot of their flaws get unnoticed.. I am taking dravid as an example..I respect him a lot.. there are so many innings I can point to him underperforming when needed... so with sachin... we see Sachin’s data with magnifying glass 😂😂...everyone knows who is the superior player..no one can create an aura sachin created atleast for our generation..sachin unda, Enta kottindu enni furs kottindu, century ayyinda.. May be non fans don’t say this but they must of heard for sure😂😂

[TrollBait]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

I don’t understand why some of the people think sachin is selfish.. he dragged his career in the end..Its easy to say for everyone that smart players hang up their boots at the right time... we’ll no one is sachin, none of the other so called foreign greats or Indian greats have that craze... fan following bheebatsam ga unna prati vadiki aa aura nunchi ravatam chala kashtam.. that’s what we fans do.. it will get to them at some point and they keep eking something out of their career even though they have nothing left to prove..u take any one with huge following in India that’s what they do., mana Desham lo movie stars ki cricketers ki full craze anukunte.. take any individual with cult following and long careers it will be a lean patch in the end..I don’t remember sachin being selfish when he had great following in the nineties but not yet god status..he played some great innings played shots based on situation and not thinking of 90’s and got out...early 2000’s nunchi his status changed and team dynamics changed and obviously it gets to him..tennis elbow issues, couldn’t even pull ....after 2007 WC all credit Cricket fans were down..Guess what who rose upto the ocassion ya played great knocks? Sachin.. look at what he has done from 2008-2011..people of his age and even a year older to him says they looked upto sachin before coming into the team., not sure how many sportsman’s can have this kind of an impact on same age group...some people like underdog stories And get attracted to lesser known players, those players are amazing and play for the country...lot of their flaws get unnoticed.. I am taking dravid as an example..I respect him a lot.. there are so many innings I can point to him underperforming when needed... so with sachin... we see Sachin’s data with magnifying glass 😂😂...everyone knows who is the superior player..no one can create an aura sachin created atleast for our generation..sachin unda, Enta kottindu enni furs kottindu, century ayyinda.. May be non fans don’t say this but they must of heard for sure😂😂

baa... pls break it down into paras.. 

 

[ganesh]

2 minutes ago, TrollBait said:

baa... pls break it down into paras.. 

 

Emotion anedi Paragraphs lo radu

[zarathustra]

39 minutes ago, ganesh said:

I don’t understand why some of the people think sachin is selfish.. he dragged his career in the end..Its easy to say for everyone that smart players hang up their boots at the right time... we’ll no one is sachin, none of the other so called foreign greats or Indian greats have that craze... fan following bheebatsam ga unna prati vadiki aa aura nunchi ravatam chala kashtam.. that’s what we fans do.. it will get to them at some point and they keep eking something out of their career even though they have nothing left to prove..u take any one with huge following in India that’s what they do., mana Desham lo movie stars ki cricketers ki full craze anukunte.. take any individual with cult following and long careers it will be a lean patch in the end..I don’t remember sachin being selfish when he had great following in the nineties but not yet god status..he played some great innings played shots based on situation and not thinking of 90’s and got out...early 2000’s nunchi his status changed and team dynamics changed and obviously it gets to him..tennis elbow issues, couldn’t even pull ....after 2007 WC all credit Cricket fans were down..Guess what who rose upto the ocassion ya played great knocks? Sachin.. look at what he has done from 2008-2011..people of his age and even a year older to him says they looked upto sachin before coming into the team., not sure how many sportsman’s can have this kind of an impact on same age group...some people like underdog stories And get attracted to lesser known players, those players are amazing and play for the country...lot of their flaws get unnoticed.. I am taking dravid as an example..I respect him a lot.. there are so many innings I can point to him underperforming when needed... so with sachin... we see Sachin’s data with magnifying glass 😂😂...everyone knows who is the superior player..no one can create an aura sachin created atleast for our generation..sachin unda, Enta kottindu enni furs kottindu, century ayyinda.. May be non fans don’t say this but they must of heard for sure😂😂

Okka mukka lo

[ganesh]

2 minutes ago, zarathustra said:

Okka mukka lo

Sachin is superior 

[TrollBait]

5 hours ago, Mr47 said:

i agree sachin is one of the greatest of all time and the half of his success is bought by media attention and he had lot of back up from bcci and mumbai board when he was out of form and still i remember when was close to 100 centuries and we asked sachin please score 100 centuries and then retire irrespective his form and where as dravid always played for the team and he finished his career without much fan fare even though he got the chance to retire in the ground. dravid said if players dont retire when they are not in form means they are blocking the next two generation players who are waiting to get into the team and thats what dravid is. If you take the dravid name on any day respect comes first and then stats. 

hmmmkay

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, Mr47 said:

i agree sachin is one of the greatest of all time and the half of his success is bought by media attention and he had lot of back up from bcci and mumbai board when he was out of form and still i remember when was close to 100 centuries and we asked sachin please score 100 centuries and then retire irrespective his form and where as dravid always played for the team and he finished his career without much fan fare even though he got the chance to retire in the ground. dravid said if players dont retire when they are not in form means they are blocking the next two generation players who are waiting to get into the team and thats what dravid is. If you take the dravid name on any day respect comes first and then stats. 

Ok