Snowflakes stay away

[chanchala]

3 minutes ago, Catalpha said:

Still don't understand the importance of public opinion about personal lives. 

what did you think? that one can rise to the top purely on basis of the strength of their 'genius' and remain there without  support of those one commands?

you are but a single node in the global brain, how much ever you delude yourself about being an extraordinarily gifted person.

that's why libertarians suck. that's why kingdoms fell. and that's why countries will fall too. in the long run, humanity will move towards communism. 

the only way to stop it is to kill all humans. lol.

[chanchala]

7 minutes ago, Catalpha said:

But Rama and Seeta didn't have any extra human capabilities.

kingdoms are inherently unstable becuase king has to either listen to everyone (information overload and he'll go insane) or he has to decide who to crush and who to listen to based on his 'dharma' or whatever sh1t.

its a bomb waiting to explode.

now switch kingdoms with countries. all countries will fail for the same reason. Too much centralization when they rule over people with diverse opinions.

for someone who thought maheshbabu CEO in some movie was funny, you seem to be okay with Rama not caring about public opinion. what do you think a kingdom is other than a public limited company with the king as CEO?

[sharenshare]

Just now, Catalpha said:

I am not necessarily saying it's fiction, I am asking what we can learn from it. 

each character or action displays different attributes like honesty, trust, mental and physical strength, selflessness, forgiveness, helping/giving, simplicity, love, sacrifice, learning, wisdom, responsibility, respect, discipline, belief, hope, optimism, and the list goes on but above all Dharma

[chanchala]

1 hour ago, Catalpha said:

I have a doubt about ancient Hindu scriptures. I think we should look at Ramayana as a novel, rather than a sacred book. So, based on this novel, I am trying to understand why people call Seeta as a Goddess. From what I understand, Seeta is an incredibly beautiful woman, who was loyal to her husband even in the face of adversity. Is that all it takes to be a Goddess, to sit around and look pretty, and be loyal to your husband? What did Seeta do that other princess haven't done? Is it because she had to separate from her husband for 13 or so years? Or is it because she left to the forest with her husband? Why is she a Goddess? I am trying to understand the character arc of Seeta, so don't bring any butthurt comments about religion. 

people are stupid. some people are smart enough to exploit it. both these groups consider Seetha as goddess for different reasons.

[Dippindots]

Just now, sharenshare said:

each character or action displays different attributes like honesty, trust, mental and physical strength, selflessness, forgiveness, helping/giving, simplicity, love, sacrifice, learning, wisdom, responsibility, respect, discipline, belief, hope, optimism, and the list goes on but above all Dharma

The one who goes by books and thinks should do the right thing , suffers the most

[Catalpha]

8 minutes ago, chanchala said:

what did you think? that one can rise to the top purely on basis of the strength of their 'genius' and remain there without  support of those one commands?

you are but a single node in the global brain, how much ever you delude yourself about being an extraordinarily gifted person.

that's why libertarians suck. that's why kingdoms fell. and that's why countries will fall too. in the long run, humanity will move towards communism. 

the only way to stop it is to kill all humans. lol.

But yielding to the likes of the majority will bring down your capabilities, because being average is enough. 

[chanchala]

you can learn more talking to your nearest homeless person regularly than from ramayana.

with the added benefit that he may not kill you when there's a class uprising in your city. hehe...

[Catalpha]

2 minutes ago, sharenshare said:

each character or action displays different attributes like honesty, trust, mental and physical strength, selflessness, forgiveness, helping/giving, simplicity, love, sacrifice, learning, wisdom, responsibility, respect, discipline, belief, hope, optimism, and the list goes on but above all Dharma

Why is Seeta a Goddess? Because she is a devoted wife? A lot of people are. 

[chanchala]

Just now, Catalpha said:

But yielding to the likes of the majority will bring down your capabilities, because being average is enough. 

nothing is enough. global brain is too complex to control. 

if its hard for a genius, how do you think an average person can do it without swaying to public opinion? 

 

[Thokkalee]

You should not see religious epics from the current society standards and maturity.. if things were different 50 to 100 years ago, imagine how different the societies and people were thousands of years ago.. just see them as stories and understand the personality of each of those characters... compared to Ramayana, Mahabharatam has so many complex characters and layers in the story.. 

[Catalpha]

Just now, chanchala said:

nothing is enough. global brain is too complex to control. 

if its hard for a genius, how do you think an average person can do it without swaying to public opinion? 

 

Every person is average, until they seek to be not. 

[chanchala]

Just now, Catalpha said:

Every person is average, until they seek to be not. 

so they have to sway to public opinion because the system is structured that way.

only anarchists can be cool and ask every1 to fcuk off.

[Catalpha]

6 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

You should not see religious epics from the current society standards and maturity.. if things were different 50 to 100 years ago, imagine how different the societies and people were thousands of years ago.. just see them as stories and understand the personality of each of those characters... compared to Ramayana, Mahabharatam has so many complex characters and layers in the story.. 

It's true, I guess it was retrogressive to a certain extent and didn't age well. 

[Thokkalee]

There were always people with perceived divine powers in many areas.. my uncle valla village lo oka baba undevaranta.. everyone in that village and surrounding villages used to follow him religiously.. people used to come from far places to visit him.. they printed books on him with stories about how he cured someone or saved someone.. everyone believed him.. He died later.. after a generation or so, the young generation were not so devoted to the Baba.. and slowly the followers also decreased.. now very very few people visit that Baba darga.. 

some babas became very famous.. and their stories spread over states and countries... eg: Sai baba and puttaparti Sai baba.. 

some did not cross their villages or districts and slowly lost their fame.. Mehar baba, etc.. 

 

[chanchala]

5 minutes ago, Catalpha said:

Why is Seeta a Goddess? Because she is a devoted wife? A lot of people are. 

Bhakti saints decided they needed someone more relatable to people as a god. an improvement from worshipping nature as gods that fell out of favour with buddhism.

its a purely political decision. but the politics was overcome by bhakti over time. 

I mean if you can worship some god Indra, you can certainly worship someone who was the daughter of bhoomata, and has such a nice backstory.

I think the religious brain gets dumber with every iteration of human beings. thats we had saibaba etc... watching just 1 episode of this man's story in serial form gave me a headache. and he has crores of followers.

the next baba will probably have one line story. compared to the thematical complexity of ramayana.