chanchala Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Diana said: thats exactly my point women are not treated equal in regular jobs no matter how much they achieve.. vere edo way lo success avalsinde no choice !! men matram ladder easy ga ekkestaru oka drink party with manager ..women matram oka company pettalsinde higher roles kavali ante endukante MEN ivaru kanuka WE are in 21st century women are treated equal anukune blind vallakosam replies continue chestunna lite diana. trust me, its immaterial. men are all gonna go to sh1t anyway soon. even as a man, I will watch from the sidelines as men implode as more and more non males grow up to challenge their hegemony. most men are sh1t. I'm too. constantly trying to be less sh1t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, chanchala said: lite diana. trust me, its immaterial. men are all gonna go to sh1t anyway soon. even as a man, I will watch from the sidelines as men implode as more and more non males grow up to challenge their hegemony. most men are sh1t. I'm too. constantly trying to be less sh1t. Aite paripovadam lekapote oka jaati extinct aipovadam. Ivena solutions ? Normal ga neutral ga em leva ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 For all those who still don't understand what are gender roles ...here you go These definitions, traits should DIE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 If a guy is not dominating or submissive or talkative it's ok. If a woman is tough and not emotional , it's ok too. You don't have to shame anyone in either cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 I think this topic is beyond AFDB cumulative IQ. Please don't talk about discrimination. It is an entirely different concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, chanchala said: yes. but if you give up a bit of control, you can find innovative ways of doing business with next to nothing as investment. I wish I knew how to 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchala Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellen said: Aite paripovadam lekapote oka jaati extinct aipovadam. Ivena solutions ? Normal ga neutral ga em leva ? cheppa kadha. you guys wanna have the cake and eat it too. you want to have all the benefits of being in a traditional institution (marriage, corporate etc), and you also want the institution to change in a way that is foreign to it. There are already radical spaces where women are just treated as matter of fact equal beings. With zero special privilege to them. with no gender roles assigned. Such spaces exist. but women who want to stay out of trouble wouldn't fit there. they probably look down on those people, because these groups are all on the margins and struggle to survive and are constantly fighting battles with the state and the society. One way to actually change your environment is to impose yourself on it and be combative and hand twist others to get things done your way. and never be apologetic about your actions. It creates a whole new set of problems ofcourse. may be, there's no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ellen said: If a guy is not dominating or submissive or talkative it's ok. If a woman is tough and not emotional , it's ok too. You don't have to shame anyone in either cases. No 3rd person judges in gender roles . Evariki anta time undadu unna no one cares . Usually own family members , spouse have issues with this . We can’t say what is ok and what is not ok in a relationship for them . After all it’s their life . This problem is huge to be addressed . Manaku ok ayyedi pakkavadiki ok Kakà povachu. Don’t mean to argue btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchala Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellen said: I think this topic is beyond AFDB cumulative IQ. Please don't talk about discrimination. It is an entirely different concept. I don't think it has anything to do with IQ. Its just that social science is a serious science too, and no one here has access to the kind of knowledge that is required for this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Amrita said: No 3rd person judges in gender roles . Evariki anta time undadu unna no one cares . Usually own family members , spouse have issues with this . We can’t say what is ok and what is not ok in a relationship for them . After it’s their life . This problem is huge to be addressed . Manaku ok ayyedi pakkavadiki ok Kakà povachu. Ledu judge chestaru. Take the examples of institutional chivalry. As a woman you are not expected to perform that well because women are generally considered left brain inclined , so they don't have proper analytical or logical skills. So they settle down for mediocre results and patronize them and I'm not exaggerating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, chanchala said: I don't think it has anything to do with IQ. Its just that social science is a serious science too, and no one here has access to the kind of knowledge that is required for this discussion. I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, chanchala said: cheppa kadha. you guys wanna have the cake and eat it too. you want to have all the benefits of being in a traditional institution (marriage, corporate etc), and you also want the institution to change in a way that is foreign to it. There are already radical spaces where women are just treated as matter of fact equal beings. With zero special privilege to them. with no gender roles assigned. Such spaces exist. but women who want to stay out of trouble wouldn't fit there. they probably look down on those people, because these groups are all on the margins and struggle to survive and are constantly fighting battles with the state and the society. One way to actually change your environment is to impose yourself on it and be combative and hand twist others to get things done your way. and never be apologetic about your actions. It creates a whole new set of problems ofcourse. may be, there's no way. Nuv utopia kahanilu mast cheptavv 😁😁 u can be a good writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2d2 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 such a serious discussion on a Sunday .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, r2d2 said: such a serious discussion on a Sunday .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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