My husband is a horrible person

[Pappu_Packitmaar]

13 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

He thinks that it's okay if Jeff Bezos is getting richer and richer while some people can't make ends meet. He thinks it's alright for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer since the rich worked their ass off to get where they are like Jeff Bezos, that privilege doesn't exist and people just use the opportunities they get, and your life is a result of the choices you make. 

I need an argument that supports liberal views, I used healthcare as an example, if people deserve to get Universal healthcare since it is such a basic requirement, since people who don't have it become broke and end up in debt. He disagrees because it's required by the Government for everyone in the US to have a health insurance, and I said what if someone doesn't have insurance, and he says who's fault is that? 

I need some arguments supporting socialism because I am unable to defend my point of view that some people have privilege. Any ideas? 

It’s time

I think it’s time..

Its high time..

You should start reading Das Capital. Better late than never..

[PilliBeta]

1 minute ago, dasari4kntr said:

Industrialists (rich).. pay the nominal/minimum working wages to worker class and earning high profits is capitalism..

Industrialists (rich)...pay the same wages to worker class and also providing some community services like building colonies , hospitals and schools for workers children etc... is socialism.. (example Robert Owen 1771-1858)

 

 

So you're saying that people should do community service because everyone in the world are not making smart decisions and since some people are poor it's the responsibility of the rich to take care of them?

[siru]

2 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

He is not comparing himself with Bezos, just saying that Bezos is entitled to the wealth he has and income inequality is not because of privilege but because people didn't make the same life choices. 

he is definitely entitled to the profits of his successful business. No one is disagreeing with that. But how much money is enough? thats where the issue comes.

1 Billion$ is more than any man can spend in a life time..100s of Billions concentrated with one person is not good for the society. Thats where taxation comes. 

[PilliBeta]

2 minutes ago, siru said:

he is definitely entitled to the profits of his successful business. No one is disagreeing with that. But how much money is enough? thats where the issue comes.

1 Billion$ is more than any man can spend in a life time..100s of Billions concentrated with one person is not good for the society. Thats where taxation comes. 

Who are we to decide if he has enough money or not? He is working and making money. Why do people who make poor life choice, like looting stores get to decide if Jeff Bezos made enough money or not? He is making money because he is entitled to it. 

[siru]

1 minute ago, PilliBeta said:

So you're saying that people should do community service because everyone in the world are not making smart decisions and since some people are poor it's the responsibility of the rich to take care of them?

lol he didnt make money out of thin air..the country and the citizens did their part in his business becoming success. Its give and take. 

He doesnt need to do charity..it should be mandatory taxes that govt will use for the welfare of the people and those people in turn make Bezos kind successful.

Its a circle of life

[PilliBeta]

Just now, siru said:

lol he didnt make money out of thin air..the country and the citizens did their part in his business becoming success. Its give and take. 

He doesnt need to do charity..it should be mandatory taxes that govt will use for the welfare of the people and those people in turn make Bezos kind successful.

Its a circle of life

He is not evading taxes, is he? 

[siru]

2 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

Who are we to decide if he has enough money or not? He is working and making money. Why do people who make poor life choice, like looting stores get to decide if Jeff Bezos made enough money or not? He is making money because he is entitled to it. 

we people did not loot the stores. Maybe u need to ask those people.

He asked for tax concessions and incentives for putting up his companies and warehouses. So who paid for those then?

[Pachhiboothu]

19 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

He thinks that it's okay if Jeff Bezos is getting richer and richer while some people can't make ends meet. He thinks it's alright for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer since the rich worked their ass off to get where they are like Jeff Bezos, that privilege doesn't exist and people just use the opportunities they get, and your life is a result of the choices you make. 

I need an argument that supports liberal views, I used healthcare as an example, if people deserve to get Universal healthcare since it is such a basic requirement, since people who don't have it become broke and end up in debt. He disagrees because it's required by the Government for everyone in the US to have a health insurance, and I said what if someone doesn't have insurance, and he says who's fault is that? 

I need some arguments supporting socialism because I am unable to defend my point of view that some people have privilege. Any ideas? 

Socialism failed idea ani cheppaka poyava ...socialism early stage symptom communism aney cancer start ayyey mundu...this country still a capitalist with bit of  socialism ...without capitalism free charity socialism don’t survive....

[dasari4kntr]

2 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

So you're saying that people should do community service because everyone in the world are not making smart decisions and since some people are poor it's the responsibility of the rich to take care of them?

yes...if the rich and poor difference grows...it will be bad for rich people...didnt we learn that from french revolution...

there is always a line between rich and poor, dumb and smart...you are fortunate enough to born in one side of the line...some people are not fortunate enough they born in other side of the line...

[Amrita]

10 minutes ago, PilliBeta said:

Throwing a stone to see if it will work out. 

Okay ! Good luck 

[PilliBeta]

1 minute ago, siru said:

we people did not loot the stores. Maybe u need to ask those people.

He asked for tax concessions and incentives for putting up his companies and warehouses. So who paid for those then?

You think he is not paying taxes?

[modi_bhakth]

You and your husband are made for each other 

[siru]

Just now, PilliBeta said:

He is not evading taxes, is he? 

u mean his personal tax?

[PilliBeta]

17 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

yes...if the rich and poor difference grows...it will be bad for rich people...didnt we learn that from french revolution...

there is always a line between rich and poor, dumb and smart...you are fortunate enough to born in one side of the line...some people are not fortunate enough they born in other side of the line...

This is exactly my point, but he thinks privilege is not real, since people's life is a result of choices they make. That even if someone is born poor, they can improve their life if they make good life decisions.  

[PilliBeta]

8 minutes ago, siru said:

u mean his personal tax?

Sure, if there are tax laws that will reduce your taxes, you should use them. You know the worst part, he thinks it's alright that Trump paid 750$ in taxes if he was able to come up with tax laws that will reduce the taxes he needs to pay. 

He also used some tax rule, because he used our second bedroom as his home office, so that reduced the amount of taxes he has to pay in our semi-annual  tax return. And he thinks that if people can use tax laws to reduce the taxes they need to pay, they should use them. I have a really hard time convincing him why social service is important, because I am not able to come up with a good counter argument.