Reservation based on caste but not income ... NONSENSE

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Ellen said:

Caste ni systemic ga abolish cheyalante Chala time pattada... it is decades of conditioning that became so normal in their heads. You are equating social change with institutional reforms... Chala teda undi 

resevations and more reservations kooda alage accept cheyyi. If you want insititional change first social change. This is how every society did it whether europe, japan or now china.

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

20 percent u are seeing as small number

60 % of India population is still in agriculture and it's allied industry

60%+20%govt jobs=80%

In this generation nobody doing agriculture, so only 20% private jobs is available to OC poor, how they can manage, reddy and kamma can manage through connection, remember if you say study well and get a good private job, question paper epudu avg student ni drustilo pettukoni tayar chesthar for any exam,so many of these OC poor people will certainly qualify for some job, but cutoff lo pothundi due to reservation

So Brain drain is not a small thing

Every year govt jobs increasing by 24,000 ante 20% ante  4800. So for 4800 jobs antha brain drain avuthundha ?

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/govt-job-outlook-remains-bleak-11580670999078.html

[NiranjanGaaru]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Every year govt jobs increasing by 24,000 ante 20% ante  4800. So for 4800 jobs antha brain drain avuthundha ?

 

https://www.live

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

Every year govt jobs increasing by 24,000 ante 20% ante  4800. So for 4800 jobs antha brain drain avuthundha ?

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/govt-job-outlook-remains-bleak-11580670999078.html

mint.com/news/india/govt-job-outlook-remains-bleak-11580670999078.html

Nuv quote chesina article only central government jobs + add state government jobs + contract based government jobs + Aided schools government jobs etc

Inka chala unnai

So not 4800 , lakshallo untai

[Ellen]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

resevations and more reservations kooda alage accept cheyyi. If you want insititional change first social change. This is how every society did it whether europe, japan or now china.

Tell me which is more difficult : government restricting private players in education and providing a level playing field or brainwash every single person in this huge population who were brought up with the same level of conditioning that caste is an ascribed status(in all castes irrespective of upper or lower ) for generations together ? 

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Ellen said:

Tell me which is more difficult : government restricting private players in education and providing a level playing field or brainwash every single person in this huge population who were brought up with the same level of conditioning that caste is an ascribed status(in all castes irrespective of upper or lower ) for generations together ? 

caste can be abolished in 10-20 years flat. Japan eliminated shogun caste in lesser years. Europe elimitanted catholic priest domination in 20-30 years. Mao eliminated warlords and women slavery in 5 years.

[odhu_le_macha]

6 hours ago, nathisheeyem said:

kadantaaraa?

Maa bava friend SC

atanu fail ayithe maa vodu tution cheppi help chesaadu(he passed next year and became junior to my bava)

maa vodu PG chesaadu, atanu PG chesaadu

iddaru groups dandayaatra chesaaru 

atanu ipudu gazetted officer  ... maa vaadu urlo finance biiz chesukuntaadu

maa vaadi kids ki no reservation-narayana school

atani kids international school (1.5  lacs fee)

they still enjoy reservation

***K YOU Ambe***ar

a daridrudu valla society imbalance aindi....  

[Ayodhyaramayyaips]

20 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

Apu baa.. Nuvu nee comedylu, thoka pettukunte ilanti important issues lo bokka pettukovala? 

Thokalu eekalu loney importance ethukkuntunnaru ga....caste creates an unruly advantage of social capital to a person not on his merit but solely due to the incidence of his/ her birth...mundhu dheenni dhebbakodithey chalu reservations automatic ga pothayi...aina ekalavyudi time nundi jaruguthunnadhi idhey ga...nyayam kosam ani matladithey dharmam ani coverdrives...asalu dharmam endhi??? Indian history neutral ga sadhuvu bha...thellodiki bharatha khandaanni appaginchindhi upper caste people in form of idealogues and financiers...inkonchem thavvi chusthey socially opressed ones were never allowed to be a part of fighting class whether during feudal medival ages nor during independence movt....how much do you read about bhagyareddy varma, ayyankali, sarvai papanna...do you read it in textbooks...all we have is the vestigeal doldrums and pompous explanation of Rani's of Jhansi or Devi's of Kakatiya kingdoms...endhuku ba...neeku caste oppression gurinchi kavalantey konw about the origins of lingayats and their founder basavanna or else try to read about Narayana guru....you will know about pomp of NG Ranga but you will never get the complete picture of his mass appeal and the man behind him...gouthu lachanna....you will never know about these persons because they have been and being systematically sidelined from the mainstream academia....indhuku ba thokalu theyamannadhi...mundhu enakala thokalu thesey dhammu lenodiki reservation theseyyamani adigey right ledhu ba...ma daggara oka sametha untadhi...guti lo rayi theyalenodu eeti lo rayi ni em thisthadu....

[NiranjanGaaru]

3 minutes ago, odhu_le_macha said:

a daridrudu valla society imbalance aindi....  

Add congress is a sin to nation

Majority portion belong to them

[odhu_le_macha]

4 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

Add congress is a sin to nation

Majority portion belong to them

congress vote bank politics valla inka continue aithundi kad....Ippudu janaku baga alavatu padipoyaru..

[Ellen]

12 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

caste can be abolished in 10-20 years flat. Japan eliminated shogun caste in lesser years. Europe elimitanted catholic priest domination in 20-30 years. Mao eliminated warlords and women slavery in 5 years.

Well it sounds very ideal and tempting, but how exactly can caste system be abolished by the government? Which political party can take such an ideal stance where they would have to lose a vote bank that works in local level? How can the brain washed people be changed in 5 years not to remember their so called identity? Also, Would this mean caste based reservation can also be abolished in parallel? While imposing rules about caste abolition, I guess education reforms should be taken up. It would be great if both can go and hand in hand.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Ellen said:

Well it sounds very ideal and tempting, but how exactly can caste system be abolished by the government? Which political party can take such an ideal stance where they would have to lose a vote bank that works in local level? How can the brain washed people be changed in 5 years not to remember their so called identity? Also, Would this mean caste based reservation can also be abolished in parallel? While imposing rules about caste abolition, I guess education reforms should be taken up. It would be great if both can go and hand in hand.

it is not so hard. I would start with temples. Replace priests will all castes - that immediately takes away this sacred thing based on birth. Ban any marriage advertisements based on caste - easily implemented. Another 20-30 percent gone. Remove all references to caste in scriptures anywhere - another 10 percent gone. Severe penalities anyone reveals caste name in birth certificates (just dont issue them) or any public media.

Aggresive representation to dalits and bc in all levers of power including corporate sector and media for 20-25 years . thats all. 

[SinN0mbre]

Haha atla ayithe jaggadu and vaadi family and jaffas, ST ani eapinchukuntaru haha 😂 

[narsy]

6 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Well it sounds very ideal and tempting, but how exactly can caste system be abolished by the government? Which political party can take such an ideal stance where they would have to lose a vote bank that works in local level? How can the brain washed people be changed in 5 years not to remember their so called identity? Also, Would this mean caste based reservation can also be abolished in parallel? While imposing rules about caste abolition, I guess education reforms should be taken up. It would be great if both can go and hand in hand.

no way it can happen. there are no easy solutions.

plus its not an ideal solution too. India's diversity, including its diversity under the hindu umbrella is one of its strengths. 

for now, most solutions that somewhat work have only been decentralized ones at the state level. like for eg. karunanidhi recognizing that BC is too broad a category and including most backward in it, so numerically insignificant and economically backward castes can benefit too.

It has worked since couple of these castes have CM candidates now in TN. lol.

such careful social engineering is a long, and careful process that shouldn't be broken by hindutva fcuktards, with focus on preserving some imaginary shared culture among diverse Hindus/Indians.

[narsy]

8 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

it is not so hard. I would start with temples. Replace priests will all castes - that immediately takes away this sacred thing based on birth. Ban any marriage advertisements based on caste - easily implemented. Another 20-30 percent gone. Remove all references to caste in scriptures anywhere - another 10 percent gone. Severe penalities anyone reveals caste name in birth certificates (just dont issue them) or any public media.

Aggresive representation to dalits and bc in all levers of power including corporate sector and media for 20-25 years . thats all. 

it sounds impossible.

[Tyler_durden]

24 minutes ago, Ayodhyaramayyaips said:

konw about the origins of lingayats and their founder basavanna

Where can I find information on this? And what is the prominence of lingayats and basavanna related to caste ??