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42 minutes ago, Hydrockers said:

Babori runam tiruchukovali ga

nee bokka. reddy caste gajji baaga undi ga neeku... wine shops mundu antha pedda que lu unnapudu leni Corona excuse local body elections ki kaavali. 😁

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1 minute ago, sunnam said:

nee bokka. reddy caste gajji baaga undi ga neeku... wine shops mundu antha pedda que lu unnapudu leni Corona excuse local body elections ki kaavali. 😁

Ori ni eshalo 

Nenu reddy ani fix ayyava

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14 minutes ago, kidney said:

hhmm adhi thelidhu.. I think some differences built after Mahametha death..

Andhukae Lemon vs Jalaga personal ga thesukunnaru anukunta

No differences. I will explain you full details. You can Google.

- Nimmagadda was working under YSR Govt.

- Later he was holding the post of Special Chief Secretary to the Governor.

- TDP Govt recommnded CR Biswal. Governor Narasimham was not interested. Present Governor appointed 73+ years Kanakaraj as SEC. But Narasimham CR Biswal is reaching retirment age in next two years ani, he kept the Govt recommendation file pending. Then 2016 lo Nimmagadda retired from him post, the next day Narasimhan appointed him as SEC.

- Nimmagadda never worked under CBN.

-Jagan as usual tried playing the caste politics to benfit. Before elections kooda he used to say that there are 40+ kamma high level police officers working for CBN ani start chesadu. Someone published the states, it was 2 or 3 officers. It was all propaganda. For his political interests, Jagan  is attributing the appointment of Ramesh Kumar SEC to CBN. And he is very successful with it.

 

Hyderabad: Governor E.S.L.  Narasimhan has kept pending the appointment of retired IAS officer Chittaranjan Biswal as AP state election commissioner. The state government has sent the file to the Governor for appointment of Biswal as SEC.

Raj Bhavan sources said that the Governor has some doubts and he wanted to clear those before appointment. Biswal earlier worked as APPSC Chairman.

Biswal earlier worked as Andhra Pradesh Public Service Commission chief.  According to norms,  the term of State Election Commissioner is five years from the date of appointment. Those who have crossed 65 years of age are not eligible to be appointed as State Election Commissioner.  The 1981 batch IAS officer, Mr  Biswal has completed 63 years.  If Biswal is appointed as SEC he will be in office for two years. Raj Bhavan sources said that the Governor wants to take legal opinion on the issue. The Governor reached Hyderabad on Tuesday evening from Bangalore and was busy with visitors, Raj Bhavan sources said.

After the retirement of P. Ramakanth Reddy,  the Telangana government has constituted its own state election commission.      Following the footsteps of Telangana, AP government also decided to constitute its own election commission and sent the file to the Governor. He referred the issue to the Centre and it has given the green signal to AP government to constitute its own state election commission.

Two days ago Hyderabad High Court directed the AP government to constitute the state election commission immediately. The AP government has decided that retired IAS officer Biswal is to be appointed as state election commissioner. A senior IAS officer said that there will be no hurdles to appoint Biswal.
 

--This is about Ramesh Kumar -

Retired bureaucrat Nimmagadda Ramesh Kumar today assumed charge as the State Election Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh here.

An Indian Administrative Service officer of the 1982 batch, Mr. Ramesh retired from service yesterday on attaining the age of superannuation.

He was holding the post of Special Chief Secretary to the Governor prior to his retirement.

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7 minutes ago, Somedude said:

No differences. I will explain you full details. You can Google.

- Nimmagadda was working under YSR Govt.

- Later he was holding the post of Special Chief Secretary to the Governor.

- TDP Govt recommnded CR Biswal. Governor Narasimham was not interested. Present Governor appointed 73+ years Kanakaraj as SEC. But Narasimham CR Biswal is reaching retirment age in next two years ani, he kept the Govt recommendation file pending. Then 2016 lo Nimmagadda retired from him post, the next day Narasimhan appointed him as SEC.

- Nimmagadda never worked under CBN.

-Jagan as usual tried playing the caste politics to benfit. Before elections kooda he used to say that there are 40+ kamma high level police officers working for CBN ani start chesadu. Someone published the states, it was 2 or 3 officers. It was all propaganda. For his political interests, Jagan  is attributing the appointment of Ramesh Kumar SEC to CBN. And he is very successful with it.

 

Hyderabad: Governor E.S.L.  Narasimhan has kept pending the appointment of retired IAS officer Chittaranjan Biswal as AP state election commissioner. The state government has sent the file to the Governor for appointment of Biswal as SEC.

Raj Bhavan sources said that the Governor has some doubts and he wanted to clear those before appointment. Biswal earlier worked as APPSC Chairman.

Biswal earlier worked as Andhra Pradesh Public Service Commission chief.  According to norms,  the term of State Election Commissioner is five years from the date of appointment. Those who have crossed 65 years of age are not eligible to be appointed as State Election Commissioner.  The 1981 batch IAS officer, Mr  Biswal has completed 63 years.  If Biswal is appointed as SEC he will be in office for two years. Raj Bhavan sources said that the Governor wants to take legal opinion on the issue. The Governor reached Hyderabad on Tuesday evening from Bangalore and was busy with visitors, Raj Bhavan sources said.

After the retirement of P. Ramakanth Reddy,  the Telangana government has constituted its own state election commission.      Following the footsteps of Telangana, AP government also decided to constitute its own election commission and sent the file to the Governor. He referred the issue to the Centre and it has given the green signal to AP government to constitute its own state election commission.

Two days ago Hyderabad High Court directed the AP government to constitute the state election commission immediately. The AP government has decided that retired IAS officer Biswal is to be appointed as state election commissioner. A senior IAS officer said that there will be no hurdles to appoint Biswal.
 

--This is about Ramesh Kumar -

Retired bureaucrat Nimmagadda Ramesh Kumar today assumed charge as the State Election Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh here.

An Indian Administrative Service officer of the 1982 batch, Mr. Ramesh retired from service yesterday on attaining the age of superannuation.

He was holding the post of Special Chief Secretary to the Governor prior to his retirement.

hhmm..

But after becoming SEC... Variations changed kaka.. Bramaravath! lands scam lo eedi bammardhi, kids name mida kuda lands allot aiyyindhi ani vinna.. andhukae Gag Order ani pattu baddu .. Jalaga letter to CJ! lo eedi peru kuda vundhi kadha....

IF only accused anukundham....

mari Why did Lemon did not conduct polls after 2018,

Why did Lemon did not remove Elekion conduct rules after elelsion postpone.. SC Lemon ni mingindhi

Why Lemon Didnot inform Govt CS, Off!cials atleast before making an announcement to live media

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15 minutes ago, kidney said:

papam... Without State Govt employees.. Elections not possible ani thelisinattu vundhi pedhayanaki

 

Govt employees eppudu govt side untayi ilanti cases lo.  Center forces help aduguthadu mostly 

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3 minutes ago, kidney said:

hhmm..

But after becoming SEC... Variations changed kaka.. Bramaravath! lands scam lo eedi bammardhi, kids name mida kuda lands allot aiyyindhi ani vinna.. andhukae Gag Order ani pattu baddu .. Jalaga letter to CJ! lo eedi peru kuda vundhi kadha....

IF only accused anukundham....

mari Why did Lemon did not conduct polls after 2018,

Why did Lemon did not remove Elekion conduct rules after elelsion postpone.. SC Lemon ni mingindhi

Why Lemon Didnot inform Govt CS, Off!cials atleast before making an announcement to live media

For your question about conducting polls in 2018.

- There is some issue related to BC reservation pending in the court. Dhani valla delay and then State and central Govt elections notification. State and Central Govt elections takes priority.

Backward Class reservations may hit election schedule

In Telangana, BC organisations have stalled July polls.
BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise.
 BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise.

Hyderabad: The issue of reservations for Backward Classes (BCs) is likely to figure in impending elections to Panchayat Raj (PR) Institutions and Local Civic Body elections which are being looked at as a dress rehearsal for next year’s Assembly elections in the states of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana state.

The decision of the TS government to hold the elections to PR Institutions in July this year has been stalled by BC organisations that have approached the High Court questioning the method adopted for reserving wards for BCs in Gram Panchayats.

 

 

BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise. Though the High Court has not granted any stay against the ongoing process to identify wards and reservation of wards, the BC organisations are questioning the notifications of reservations of wards as and when the notifications are issued.

Elections to the PR Institutions such as Zilla Parishad, Mandal Parishad and Gram Panchayat and also Nagar Panchayats, Municipalities and Municipal Corporations are scheduled for this year as the term of the elected institutions ends in July in both states. Elections were held to the PR Institutions in July 2013 in the combined state of AP. The term of the local bodies in both states will end in March 2019.

 

 

The Telugu Desam had won a majority of municipalities and municipal corporations in the Seemandhra region in the elections held in 2014 prior to the bifurcation, and emerged as the ruling party in the 2014 Assembly polls.

But in Telangana, though the Congress had won a majority of seats in civic bodies, the Telangana Rashtra Samiti bagged the posts of chairman and mayor with the support of the MIM and emerged as the ruling party in the 2014 Assembly polls.

Both the TRS and the TD were expected to conduct the elections to PR institutions and civic bodies to test their strength ahead of the general elections. The legal issues raised by the BC communities appears to have dented their plans.

 

 

The main contention of the BC organisations of Telangana is that the state government has identified the BC Gram Panchayats illegally and illogically by excluding the 1,308 Gram Panchayats in Scheduled Areas and 1,326 Gram Panchayats of the 100 per cent ST populated areas from the total 12,751 Gram Panchayats and have calculated the BC population only out of the remaining 10,117.

Dr Cheruku Sudhakar, who has moved the High Court against the Telangana state government, has claimed that due to this unscientific calculation the BC communities are losing about 896 Gram Panchayats.

 

 

Dasoju Sravan Kumar, Congress leader and another petitioner before the High Court, said that for identification of the BCs under Panchayat Raj Act for providing reservation in local bodies, political backwardness has to be taken into consideration and reservations have to be provided on the basis of contemporaneous empirical data.

He said that though the state government is claiming that it is providing 34 per cent reservations to BCs, actually the said reservations for BCs works out to only 27 per cent, not even reaching the statutorily declared 34 per cent.

 

 

He said their main fight for providing reservations to the BCs category wise as BC ‘A’, BC ‘B’, BC ‘C’and BC ‘D’ as provided under Section 17(4) of the PR Act, was not being done now in the present elections.

While the BC organisations of TS have been fighting for political reservations, the BC associations from Andhra Pradesh have moved the High Court against the action of the state government in not disclosing the Justice Manjunath Commission report which was constituted for paving the way for reservation to the Kapu community and not undertaking the survey to provide political reservations to them in panchayati raj and civic bodies.

 

 

AP Backward Classes Welfare Association president K. Allmmen Raju said that under Article 15 (4) &(5)  of the Constitution the state shall make any special provision for advancement of the socially and educationally Backward Classes of citizens providing reservations in the education and political fields.   

He said that to determine the percentage of BCs a survey has to be conducted by the state government, but till date the AP government has not conducted any survey and they have moved the court seeking to direct the state government for the survey.

 

Door-to-door survey must to identify BC voters: Lawyers

Advocates say that the Backward Classes identified for the purpose of Article 15(4) of the Constitution has no application while deciding and providing political reservation to backward classes in local bodies.

They said that the door-to-door survey was mandatory to identify the BC voters under the Gram Panchayat Rules 2007 which deal with denotification, deletion, show cause, objections and re-notification of wards pursuant to Section 295 of the Telangana State Panchayat Raj Act 2018.

 

 

B. Rachna Reddy, High Court advocate, said that Section 17 of the Telangana State Panchayat Raj Act, 2018 (TS PR Act), does not provide for exclusion of any category of Gram Panchayats before calculating the posts of chairpersons of BCs or other categories.

K.S. Murthy, who also practices in the High Court said that the Supreme Court has held that elections to Panchayat Raj bodies is to be conducted only after identification of BC voters through a scientific survey.

Lawyer B. Rachna Reddy points out that neither AP nor Telangana has done any scientific survey so far.

 

 

Mr Murthy said that Section 4 of the PESA Act and Section 255 of the TS PR Act, 2018 reserves the sarpanch posts only for Schedule Tribes (STs).

He explained, “It also says that members of the panchayat should be proportionate to their population. If SCs present in these Scheduled Areas are excluded from the calculation of sarpanches in accordance with their population proportion in the state, then Scheduled Castes would stand to lose constitutionally guaranteed reservation in accordance with their proportion.”

 

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2 hours ago, Vaampire said:

Why didn't voters list was prepared on time? Sec has full authority kada.  Assembly/Lok Sabha elections kooda 2019 may ki done. Why wait for 10 months even then.

 

Cancelling elections in Mar 2020 was a good decision. No doubt about. Ippudu vaccine distribute chesey time lo enduku ee hadavidi?

I stand by my words. Class of ego between 2 idiots

No, it was not under his hands. Look at this post. There was some court case pending related to BC reservations in TG an AP BC people also filed in the court. It delayed the schedule.

 

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3 minutes ago, Somedude said:

For your question about conducting polls in 2018.

- There is some issue related to BC reservation pending in the court. Dhani valla delay and then State and central Govt elections notification. State and Central Govt elections takes priority.

Backward Class reservations may hit election schedule

In Telangana, BC organisations have stalled July polls.
BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise.
 BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise.

Hyderabad: The issue of reservations for Backward Classes (BCs) is likely to figure in impending elections to Panchayat Raj (PR) Institutions and Local Civic Body elections which are being looked at as a dress rehearsal for next year’s Assembly elections in the states of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana state.

The decision of the TS government to hold the elections to PR Institutions in July this year has been stalled by BC organisations that have approached the High Court questioning the method adopted for reserving wards for BCs in Gram Panchayats.

 

 

BC organisations in Andhra Pradesh have also moved the High Court seeking reservations for BCs group wise. Though the High Court has not granted any stay against the ongoing process to identify wards and reservation of wards, the BC organisations are questioning the notifications of reservations of wards as and when the notifications are issued.

Elections to the PR Institutions such as Zilla Parishad, Mandal Parishad and Gram Panchayat and also Nagar Panchayats, Municipalities and Municipal Corporations are scheduled for this year as the term of the elected institutions ends in July in both states. Elections were held to the PR Institutions in July 2013 in the combined state of AP. The term of the local bodies in both states will end in March 2019.

 

 

The Telugu Desam had won a majority of municipalities and municipal corporations in the Seemandhra region in the elections held in 2014 prior to the bifurcation, and emerged as the ruling party in the 2014 Assembly polls.

But in Telangana, though the Congress had won a majority of seats in civic bodies, the Telangana Rashtra Samiti bagged the posts of chairman and mayor with the support of the MIM and emerged as the ruling party in the 2014 Assembly polls.

Both the TRS and the TD were expected to conduct the elections to PR institutions and civic bodies to test their strength ahead of the general elections. The legal issues raised by the BC communities appears to have dented their plans.

 

 

The main contention of the BC organisations of Telangana is that the state government has identified the BC Gram Panchayats illegally and illogically by excluding the 1,308 Gram Panchayats in Scheduled Areas and 1,326 Gram Panchayats of the 100 per cent ST populated areas from the total 12,751 Gram Panchayats and have calculated the BC population only out of the remaining 10,117.

Dr Cheruku Sudhakar, who has moved the High Court against the Telangana state government, has claimed that due to this unscientific calculation the BC communities are losing about 896 Gram Panchayats.

 

 

Dasoju Sravan Kumar, Congress leader and another petitioner before the High Court, said that for identification of the BCs under Panchayat Raj Act for providing reservation in local bodies, political backwardness has to be taken into consideration and reservations have to be provided on the basis of contemporaneous empirical data.

He said that though the state government is claiming that it is providing 34 per cent reservations to BCs, actually the said reservations for BCs works out to only 27 per cent, not even reaching the statutorily declared 34 per cent.

 

 

He said their main fight for providing reservations to the BCs category wise as BC ‘A’, BC ‘B’, BC ‘C’and BC ‘D’ as provided under Section 17(4) of the PR Act, was not being done now in the present elections.

While the BC organisations of TS have been fighting for political reservations, the BC associations from Andhra Pradesh have moved the High Court against the action of the state government in not disclosing the Justice Manjunath Commission report which was constituted for paving the way for reservation to the Kapu community and not undertaking the survey to provide political reservations to them in panchayati raj and civic bodies.

 

 

AP Backward Classes Welfare Association president K. Allmmen Raju said that under Article 15 (4) &(5)  of the Constitution the state shall make any special provision for advancement of the socially and educationally Backward Classes of citizens providing reservations in the education and political fields.   

He said that to determine the percentage of BCs a survey has to be conducted by the state government, but till date the AP government has not conducted any survey and they have moved the court seeking to direct the state government for the survey.

 

Door-to-door survey must to identify BC voters: Lawyers

Advocates say that the Backward Classes identified for the purpose of Article 15(4) of the Constitution has no application while deciding and providing political reservation to backward classes in local bodies.

They said that the door-to-door survey was mandatory to identify the BC voters under the Gram Panchayat Rules 2007 which deal with denotification, deletion, show cause, objections and re-notification of wards pursuant to Section 295 of the Telangana State Panchayat Raj Act 2018.

 

 

B. Rachna Reddy, High Court advocate, said that Section 17 of the Telangana State Panchayat Raj Act, 2018 (TS PR Act), does not provide for exclusion of any category of Gram Panchayats before calculating the posts of chairpersons of BCs or other categories.

K.S. Murthy, who also practices in the High Court said that the Supreme Court has held that elections to Panchayat Raj bodies is to be conducted only after identification of BC voters through a scientific survey.

Lawyer B. Rachna Reddy points out that neither AP nor Telangana has done any scientific survey so far.

 

 

Mr Murthy said that Section 4 of the PESA Act and Section 255 of the TS PR Act, 2018 reserves the sarpanch posts only for Schedule Tribes (STs).

He explained, “It also says that members of the panchayat should be proportionate to their population. If SCs present in these Scheduled Areas are excluded from the calculation of sarpanches in accordance with their population proportion in the state, then Scheduled Castes would stand to lose constitutionally guaranteed reservation in accordance with their proportion.”

 

Backward Class reservations may hit election schedule

Mari.. Did this Backward class reservations resolved for this polls.. Voting lists kuda update avvaledhu kadha kaka

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14 minutes ago, kidney said:

Backward Class reservations may hit election schedule

Mari.. Did this Backward class reservations resolved for this polls.. Voting lists kuda update avvaledhu kadha kaka

That was resolved. Adhi resolve ayyake kadha Nimmaga went ahead with election preperation just before the Corona. There was judgement from HC/SC about not increasing the quota more than 50%.

 

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4 minutes ago, Somedude said:

That was resolved. Adhi resolve ayyake kadha Nimmaga went ahead with election preperation just before the Corona. There was judgement from HC/SC about not increasing the quota more than 50%.

 

Reservation resolve aiyyindhi.. Voters list update chesara??

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3 minutes ago, kidney said:

Reservation resolve aiyyindhi.. Voters list update chesara??

Draft electoral rolls: Last date for objections is Dec. 15

Chief Electoral Officer calls on political parties to play proactive role

Chief Electoral Officer ( CEO) K. Vijayanand has stated that claims and objections regarding draft electoral rolls can be made till December 15.

The claims and objections will be resolved before January 5, 2021. Special campaign days will be conducted on November 28 and 29 and December 12 and 13. Booth-level officials will be available on those days with draft rolls. The claims and objections will be addressed to on the spot. The final rolls will be published on January 15, he said.

Mr. Vijayanand, who held a meeting with representatives of political parties on Friday, said political parties played a key role in the correction of the draft electoral rolls.

“Despite many requests, the political parties have not appointed booth-level agents. Error-free voter lists are possible only if the booth-level agents are appointed by all parties,” he said. “The political parties are requested to appoint booth-level agents and get the draft voters list verified by their booth-level agents,” he added.

“Instead of making a hue and cry over the voters list when elections are round the corner, it would be better if necessary corrections in the draft rolls are made now. It would benefit all political parties,” he said.

The voter strength touched 4,00,79,025 as per the draft electoral rolls which was released on November 16. As many as 3,26,824 new voters were enrolled. Around 45,000 applications were received through online. Of this, 33,000 applicants were enrolled as voters and remaining 8,000 applications have to be verified, he said.

As many as 80,000 new electoral photo identity cards were issued. There were 740 voters out of every 1,000 persons in the State. Polling stations would be set up in a radius of 2 km from the house of every voter. Similarly, polling stations would be set up in the tribal areas as well. After rationalisation, there are 45,917 polling stations in the state, he said.

Mr. Vijayanand said that the deadline for enrolment of teachers in the MLC elections is December 31. So far, 30,000 teachers have enrolled their names. Elections to two teacher MLC posts will be held in March, 2021. All eligible teachers can enrol their names, he said.

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9 minutes ago, Somedude said:

Draft electoral rolls: Last date for objections is Dec. 15

Chief Electoral Officer calls on political parties to play proactive role

Chief Electoral Officer ( CEO) K. Vijayanand has stated that claims and objections regarding draft electoral rolls can be made till December 15.

The claims and objections will be resolved before January 5, 2021. Special campaign days will be conducted on November 28 and 29 and December 12 and 13. Booth-level officials will be available on those days with draft rolls. The claims and objections will be addressed to on the spot. The final rolls will be published on January 15, he said.

Mr. Vijayanand, who held a meeting with representatives of political parties on Friday, said political parties played a key role in the correction of the draft electoral rolls.

“Despite many requests, the political parties have not appointed booth-level agents. Error-free voter lists are possible only if the booth-level agents are appointed by all parties,” he said. “The political parties are requested to appoint booth-level agents and get the draft voters list verified by their booth-level agents,” he added.

“Instead of making a hue and cry over the voters list when elections are round the corner, it would be better if necessary corrections in the draft rolls are made now. It would benefit all political parties,” he said.

The voter strength touched 4,00,79,025 as per the draft electoral rolls which was released on November 16. As many as 3,26,824 new voters were enrolled. Around 45,000 applications were received through online. Of this, 33,000 applicants were enrolled as voters and remaining 8,000 applications have to be verified, he said.

As many as 80,000 new electoral photo identity cards were issued. There were 740 voters out of every 1,000 persons in the State. Polling stations would be set up in a radius of 2 km from the house of every voter. Similarly, polling stations would be set up in the tribal areas as well. After rationalisation, there are 45,917 polling stations in the state, he said.

Mr. Vijayanand said that the deadline for enrolment of teachers in the MLC elections is December 31. So far, 30,000 teachers have enrolled their names. Elections to two teacher MLC posts will be held in March, 2021. All eligible teachers can enrol their names, he said.

as per you post

Chief Electoral Officer ( CEO) K. Vijayanand has stated that claims and objections regarding draft electoral rolls can be made till December 15. Resolve 

The claims and objections will be resolved before January 5, 2021. Special campaign days will be conducted on November 28 and 29 and December 12 and 13. Booth-level officials will be available on those days with draft rolls. The claims and objections will be addressed to on the spot. The final rolls will be published on January 15, he said

 

Voters list State CS or State Collectors confirm cheyyali kadha kaka.. Chesara??

and as per your thed in Dec 2020  "The claims and objections will be resolved "  Resolve avvaledhu ani AP Govt antandhi ...

 

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@Somedude kaka..

As discussion I have below points..

SEC supporting argument may be .. 

It is an independent Body, 2018 nundi pending lo vundhi, On multiple request for Pre-Poll agenda meetings.. Govy support cheyatledhu ani

AP Govt Supporting argument may be ...

Covid vaccines to Front Line warriors Begins in AP from Jan 16,  Elections can be conducted after 2-3 months.

SEC sent Notice for Voters list update in Dec.. inka Voters list update cheyyaledhu

Central Govt requires Govt resources for disctribution of 15 Lakhs Dosages in 1st phase, followed by other phases till Feb atleast

If u support SEC.. what are ur points?

 

 

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