Here is why I think madanapalle incident happened.

[filterKaapi]

Ok db'ers.. I have a family member with a severe mental disorder and I wanted to tell you what I think was going on in the madanapalle incident based on my experience with my own family member. My family has been greatly affected by mental illness and so this incident hit me very hard. 

(I posted this as a comment in another thread but decided to make a thread since it will help raising a bit of awareness of mental illness). 

The parents probably have a severe mental disorder like schizophrenia/bipolar disorder (the mental hospital doctors also mentioned this a couple of times in the news). A symptom of these disorders is that patients can sometimes go into psychosis which is a state of disconnection from reality and is characterized by the presence of delusions (i.e., fixed beliefs in false things... mom thinks she is shiva and corona came from her), hallucinations (seeing things and hearing voices that normal people can't... dad was saying there was a third person and mom was saying kalika instructed to kill her daughter) and incoherent speech (watch the video with the police.. mom was saying some random stuff). The nature of the delusions/hallucinations can vary from person to person and also context to context. If the person is religious, their delusions can have a religious flavor (which was the case here). The same person at a different time can have delusions of a different flavor (e.g: they might start believing they can control the motion of the sun/moon etc.,).

The delusions and voices can be so powerful that they can make the person do extreme things they wouldn't do if they weren't suffering from the illness (in this case they killed their daughters unfortunately).

There is sometimes a long (months.. weeks..) build up period to the psychosis called the prodromal period in which the patients become very reclusive, isolate themselves from the society (which was the case with the parents in the madanapalle incident) or sometimes a stressful situation can trigger a psychotic episode (the mom's mom passed away recently which could have acted a stressor). 

Based on all of this, I think this is a clear cut case of severe, untreated mental illness that led to the the parents' delusional behavior and daughters' death. 

Here is what I think is going to happen next:

The police will start investigating based on the details the parents are giving and that will not lead them anywhere.. there is no black magic/no third or fourth person involved as the parents are saying since they are just delusions. It will soon be confirmed that untreated mental illness was the only reason. 

The parents won't get charged with murder because of the insanity laws.. the human rights groups will try to shield them. It will take a couple of weeks for the psychosis to clear and for the parents to realize what they have done.. I can't imagine what they will feel once the realization hits them. 

How can such incidents be prevented?

By raising awareness of mental health, improving to access health resources and reducing the stigma about mental illness. From what their students and the media are saying, these parents are both highly educated, very helpful and productive members of society. If they had gotten help in time, their lives would have gone on smoothly. 

If you want to know more about psychosis: 

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/schizophrenia/raise/what-is-psychosis.shtml

[i_sudigadu]

I wouldn’t blame law if the parents are not charged with murder. 

[filterKaapi]

6 minutes ago, i_sudigadu said:

I wouldn’t blame law if the parents are not charged with murder. 

I am not blaming law at all here

[i_sudigadu]

5 minutes ago, filterKaapi said:

I am not blaming law at all here

Ur tone suggests they should be charged with murder .. May be I am wrong 

[Dosakai]

but why is this a big news anedhi okati undhi ga.

[filterKaapi]

9 minutes ago, i_sudigadu said:

Ur tone suggests they should be charged with murder .. May be I am wrong 

I was not suggesting anything baa.. just stating what I think will happen

[i_sudigadu]

3 minutes ago, filterKaapi said:

I was not suggesting anything baa.. just stating what I think will happen

My bad baa .. insane laws ... human groups will shield them ani annav kada baa .. so nuv morder charge ki support anukunna 

[filterKaapi]

18 minutes ago, i_sudigadu said:

My bad baa .. insane laws ... human groups will shield them ani annav kada baa .. so nuv morder charge ki support anukunna 

insane laws ana ledu baa. "insanity" laws anna..they are laws designed to protect people who have severe mental illness when they commit crimes in a delusional state..

read this: https://blog.ipleaders.in/insanity-defence-indian-penal-code/

 

[No_body_friends]

31 minutes ago, filterKaapi said:

insane laws ana ledu baa. "insanity" laws anna..they are laws designed to protect people who have severe mental illness when they commit crimes in a delusional state..

read this: https://blog.ipleaders.in/insanity-defence-indian-penal-code/

 

Ma balayya babu used this law @Rendu

[filterKaapi]

Just now, No_body_friends said:

Ma balayya babu used this law @Rendu

Yep and in fact some people say that he was going through an episode of mental illness when he shot the person

[ticket]

2 hours ago, filterKaapi said:

Ok db'ers.. I have a family member with a severe mental disorder and I wanted to tell you what I think was going on in the madanapalle incident based on my experience with my own family member. My family has been greatly affected by mental illness and so this incident hit me very hard. 

 

 

 

(I posted this as a comment in another thread but decided to make a thread since it will help raising a bit of awareness of mental illness). 

 

 

 

The parents probably have a severe mental disorder like schizophrenia/bipolar disorder (the mental hospital doctors also mentioned this a couple of times in the news). A symptom of these disorders is that patients can sometimes go into psychosis which is a state of disconnection from reality and is characterized by the presence of delusions (i.e., fixed beliefs in false things... mom thinks she is shiva and corona came from her), hallucinations (seeing things and hearing voices that normal people can't... dad was saying there was a third person and mom was saying kalika instructed to kill her daughter) and incoherent speech (watch the video with the police.. mom was saying some random stuff). The nature of the delusions/hallucinations can vary from person to person and also context to context. If the person is religious, their delusions can have a religious flavor (which was the case here). The same person at a different time can have delusions of a different flavor (e.g: they might start believing they can control the motion of the sun/moon etc.,).

The delusions and voices can be so powerful that they can make the person do extreme things they wouldn't do if they weren't suffering from the illness (in this case they killed their daughters unfortunately).

There is sometimes a long (months.. weeks..) build up period to the psychosis called the prodromal period in which the patients become very reclusive, isolate themselves from the society (which was the case with the parents in the madanapalle incident) or sometimes a stressful situation can trigger a psychotic episode (the mom's mom passed away recently which could have acted a stressor). 

Based on all of this, I think this is a clear cut case of severe, untreated mental illness that led to the the parents' delusional behavior and daughters' death. 

Here is what I think is going to happen next:

The police will start investigating based on the details the parents are giving and that will not lead them anywhere.. there is no black magic/no third or fourth person involved as the parents are saying since they are just delusions. It will soon be confirmed that untreated mental illness was the only reason. 

The parents won't get charged with murder because of the insanity laws.. the human rights groups will try to shield them. It will take a couple of weeks for the psychosis to clear and for the parents to realize what they have done.. I can't imagine what they will feel once the realization hits them. 

How can such incidents be prevented?

By raising awareness of mental health, improving to access health resources and reducing the stigma about mental illness. From what their students and the media are saying, these parents are both highly educated, very helpful and productive members of society. If they had gotten help in time, their lives would have gone on smoothly. 

If you want to know more about psychosis: 

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/schizophrenia/raise/what-is-psychosis.shtml

Mental illness unte.. How they managed colleges until then? Colleagues easy ga identify chesevallu

[filterKaapi]

55 minutes ago, ticket said:

Mental illness unte.. How they managed colleges until then? Colleagues easy ga identify chesevallu

Mental illness ante vaallu 24 hrs ade state le undaru baa.. they can get along by hiding/managing symptoms.. and sometimes the symptoms can be so extreme that they just lose touch with reality like in this case..