wow super bowl ad on farmer's protest.

[Dosakai]

2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

You don't understand the situation , even if states have robust procurement, FCI simply does not want to offtake paddy because they have no capacity to store or the need . 

Punjab has the first mover advantage and close proximity to delhi rulers

If AP has such a weak Infrastructure , then why do we export more rice than any other state  ? Because AP already has a market system in procurement . 

We get rates depending on the market rate for rice plus some bonus 

AP govt gets allocated its share through FCI or not? AP has signed on to decentralized procurement system, and the state govt does procure according to the FCI allocation to the state. FCI may refuse to take back excess procurement by the state. 

Like I said in an earlier comment, Bihar's produce also gets sold through Punjab. and some UP too. I think it won't happen from now, since everybody is talking about how much the center buys from punjab. they buy because the other states suck.

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

Just now, Dosakai said:

AP govt gets allocated its share through FCI or not? AP has signed on to decentralized procurement system, and the state govt does procure according to the FCI allocation to the state. FCI may refuse to take back excess procurement by the state. 

Like I said in an earlier comment, Bihar's produce also gets sold through Punjab. and some UP too. I think it won't happen from now, since everybody is talking about how much the center buys from punjab. they buy because the other states suck.

 

There are too many brokers in APMC who make living off selling bihari grains  . 

The leakages will not go away until entrenched brokers are thrown out

[Dosakai]

2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Spot on , there needs to be lot of work done to improve safeguards for farmers but the bill itself is not a bad thing . 

There are lots of reservations in the bill but creation of market system is paramount to long term sustainability of agriculture 

I've never ever argued that the bill is bad. but that based on past actions of this govt, and general lackadaisical approach of govts to farmers, farmers are right to show concern about their status after the passing of bills. 

The bill is not about some market system. It just unites mandis across India both APMCs and private mandis. Its a legal framework. nothing more. Earlier when you had to have license in APMCs to trade there, this bill removes that barrier.

the regulation part of this equation is still left in question. It's gonna take many years to take shape.

Also the govt did not explain what they want to with eNAM project that tried to do the same thing without even passing a legislation.

the way this govt works is a mystery. They hit a good idea at first - eNAM, and then abandon it midway after many years to again start from the scratch. No explanation given till date to why eNAM is being pushed to the background in this conversation.

[kittaya]

1 hour ago, Dosakai said:

yes. evadu undedhi India lo. nuvvu kooda undalekunda kadha paripoy vachesav

Asylum meaning nti kaka

 

[pahelwan]

Aa California anta khalisthan lenzodukul India should never go back on the reforms. Deal with the iron hand. Why should only punjab farmers should get rich what about the other state farmers. 

[Dosakai]

2 hours ago, kittaya said:

Asylum meaning nti kaka

 

nee focus asylum meedha, naa focus andaru paari poy vachhey India aney desham meedha.  last ki adhey kadha.

India lo unda lekey kadha andaru vachesedhi. 

[Dosakai]

13 minutes ago, pahelwan said:

Aa California anta khalisthan lenzodukul India should never go back on the reforms. Deal with the iron hand. Why should only punjab farmers should get rich what about the other state farmers. 

haha..  Indian ambassadors andarni India ki 10gey ani cheppali.

[Democraticcompulsion]

Ironic that they are posting an ad in the world of free market against a law that allows open market.

 

[Dosakai]

2 minutes ago, Democraticcompulsion said:

Ironic that they are posting an ad in the world of free market against a law that allows open market.

 

Somalia also has a free market. India's 'open market' is more like Somalia's than of the US. ask farmers in Bihar.

[Democraticcompulsion]

4 minutes ago, Dosakai said:

Somalia also has a free market. India's 'open market' is more like Somalia's than of the US. ask farmers in Bihar.

And Somalia's  free market is wrong? 

What about Bihar? Are they protesting too?

[Dosakai]

Just now, Democraticcompulsion said:

And Somalia's  free market is wrong? 

What about Bihar? Are they protesting too?

free market is just a 'free for all goondas' market without govt creating institutions that make it fair for all.  Somalia is one such.

Bihar farmers have lost the ability to bargain for their rights in 2006 itself. Punjab farmers are protesting for their rights to not become like bihar.

[Ryzen_renoir]

14 minutes ago, Democraticcompulsion said:

Ironic that they are posting an ad in the world of free market against a law that allows open market.

 

USA and Canada sued india in WTO regarding MSP system . 

 

Vote bank politics anthey , they support the right protest and they also support the farm laws  they are protesting about

[Ryzen_renoir]

2 minutes ago, Dosakai said:

free market is just a 'free for all goondas' market without govt creating institutions that make it fair for all.  Somalia is one such.

Bihar farmers have lost the ability to bargain for their rights in 2006 itself. Punjab farmers are protesting for their rights to not become like bihar.

True chittoor lo all mangos farmers have to sell for Galla , no one else is allowed in there . Galla family decides what rates are irrespective of market price. 

Need to have more robust safeguards 

[kittaya]

5 hours ago, Dosakai said:

nee focus asylum meedha, naa focus andaru paari poy vachhey India aney desham meedha.  last ki adhey kadha.

India lo unda lekey kadha andaru vachesedhi. 

puthar galla focus asylym ikkada aeppudu... appudu aeppudo jarigina roits thonee villu inkaa asylm apply chesthunaru ... 

unda leka kaadu va...... dabbulu kosam vastharu evaraina.... 

undaleka evadu vasthadu..... 

[Dosakai]

1 minute ago, kittaya said:

puthar galla focus asylym ikkada aeppudu... appudu aeppudo jarigina roits thonee villu inkaa asylm apply chesthunaru ... 

unda leka kaadu va...... dabbulu kosam vastharu evaraina.... 

undaleka evadu vasthadu..... 

vaallu kooda dabbulu kosam veltharu bhayya. nee daari needhi vaalla daari vaalladhi.

common thing entante, India lo undatam evariki ishtam ledhu. haha..