My analysis on Yogi/Mosha/RSS dynamics

[Telugodura456]

@NiranjanGaaru @ZoomNaidu  @Ayodhyaramayyaips

Yogi was bought as insurance against brahmin lobby in Hindutva. Its well known UP brahmins hated Yogi for his dabbling in to religion (which they see as their ancestral property) and there is very high resentment against them. Its just like when they were upset when they saw NTR asking for votes with Krishna avatar cutouts. Any access to gods they feel must come through them by paying them due respects/dakshinas first. 

 

Being fully aware of this and also aware of Yogi macho image which has a mass appeal - Mosha bought him in to political limelight. I think its a good move. This ensured mass appeal factor will remain with MoSha and RSS wont touch them. 

 

But RSS also accepted this grudgingly and decided to settle for economic warfare against masses of india through Modi . Demonetization and Agri bills were primarily bought to hit on the stomachs of economic growth of hindu masses/farmers and to show them their place and put the interests of corporates (whose demography is liked by RSS - mostly brahmins and banias).  MoSha agreed for this war on hindus masses economic interests as along as Gujju corporates are put first.

But if these economic policies failed then RSS would have long made a godse for Modi  if not for the mass appeal of Yogi.

In the end ofcourse all these bunch of people are horrible.

[Ryzen_renoir]

19 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

@NiranjanGaaru @ZoomNaidu  @Ayodhyaramayyaips

 

 

 

Yogi was bought as insurance against brahmin lobby in Hindutva. Its well known UP brahmins hated Yogi for his dabbling in to religion (which they see as their ancestral property) and there is very high resentment against them. Its just like when they were upset when they saw NTR asking for votes with Krishna avatar cutouts. Any access to gods they feel must come through them by paying them due respects/dakshinas first. 

 

 

 

 

Being fully aware of this and also aware of Yogi macho image which has a mass appeal - Mosha bought him in to political limelight. I think its a good move. This ensured mass appeal factor will remain with MoSha and RSS wont touch them. 

 

But RSS also accepted this grudgingly and decided to settle for economic warfare against masses of india through Modi . Demonetization and Agri bills were primarily bought to hit on the stomachs of economic growth of hindu masses/farmers and to show them their place and put the interests of corporates (whose demography is liked by RSS - mostly brahmins and banias).  MoSha agreed for this war on hindus masses economic interests as along as Gujju corporates are put first.

But if these economic policies failed then RSS would have long made a godse for Modi  if not for the mass appeal of Yogi.

In the end ofcourse all these bunch of people are horrible.

One weak link , NDA  has ** up economy for everyone . 

The same bania lobby would have been even richer If india grew at 9% rate , I don't think they crashed the economy by following a grand plan . 

It's just that they never followed expert economists advice and saw anyone with independent thought as enemies . 

This is the first budget BJP Actually listened to sane voices due to sheer desperation , privitisation , monetization of assets are all good moves

[Telugodura456]

7 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

One weak link , NDA  has ** up economy for everyone . 

The same bania lobby would have been even richer If india grew at 9% rate , I don't think they crashed the economy by following a grand plan . 

It's just that they never followed expert economists advice and saw anyone with independent thought as enemies . 

This is the first budget BJP Actually listened to sane voices due to sheer desperation , privitisation , monetization of assets are all good moves

Incompetence is a consequence . But they do have an agenda. Demonetization was designed by Tambrams (i forget the name of the guy - he is some swadeshi jagran manch felloe) - the purpose is to hit all these businessmen who they think are making crores and not paying taxes. Especially muslims are generally traders or small businessmen - lot of hindu lower castes also moved to business from agruculture. They designed the policy to hit them most.

And benefit the corporates because corporates are biggest beneficiaries of any "formalization".

Ofcourse in the end everyone loses. BUt RSS is not interested in wealth or removing poverty. But maintaning hierarchy of wealth. As long as targeted people get more poorer they are ok for everyone to get poor.

[Ryzen_renoir]

24 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Incompetence is a consequence . But they do have an agenda. Demonetization was designed by Tambrams (i forget the name of the guy - he is some swadeshi jagran manch felloe) - the purpose is to hit all these businessmen who they think are making crores and not paying taxes. Especially muslims are generally traders or small businessmen - lot of hindu lower castes also moved to business from agruculture. They designed the policy to hit them most.

And benefit the corporates because corporates are biggest beneficiaries of any "formalization".

Ofcourse in the end everyone loses. BUt RSS is not interested in wealth or removing poverty. But maintaning hierarchy of wealth. As long as targeted people get more poorer they are ok for everyone to get poor.

I don't get the argument at all , multiple leaders proposed demonitisation idea before as something radical . Even our own then CM. 

Several big shots in TDP knew about note ban , for example Narayana repaid local financiers hundreds of crores a month before note ban. 

Coming to the ideology itself ,

Even congress had the same ideology for fifty years through license Raj and socialism , they ensured that all economic means are in the hands of the family . It took an outsider and a crisis to change the system .

Keep them poor, keep them uneducated , keep them dependant on dole outs so that they will be forced to vote for you again

[Ayodhyaramayyaips]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

@NiranjanGaaru @ZoomNaidu  @Ayodhyaramayyaips

 

 

Yogi was bought as insurance against brahmin lobby in Hindutva. Its well known UP brahmins hated Yogi for his dabbling in to religion (which they see as their ancestral property) and there is very high resentment against them. Its just like when they were upset when they saw NTR asking for votes with Krishna avatar cutouts. Any access to gods they feel must come through them by paying them due respects/dakshinas first. 

 

 

 

Being fully aware of this and also aware of Yogi macho image which has a mass appeal - Mosha bought him in to political limelight. I think its a good move. This ensured mass appeal factor will remain with MoSha and RSS wont touch them. 

 

But RSS also accepted this grudgingly and decided to settle for economic warfare against masses of india through Modi . Demonetization and Agri bills were primarily bought to hit on the stomachs of economic growth of hindu masses/farmers and to show them their place and put the interests of corporates (whose demography is liked by RSS - mostly brahmins and banias).  MoSha agreed for this war on hindus masses economic interests as along as Gujju corporates are put first.

But if these economic policies failed then RSS would have long made a godse for Modi  if not for the mass appeal of Yogi.

In the end ofcourse all these bunch of people are horrible.

Nuvvu ichina angle kotha ga undhi and I'm curious yaar...but rss wants to strictly maintain the rigid social heirarchy as it is at any cost , so why do they portray yogi as their henchmen....they used moshaw to get the power but I will highly doubt they will continue this, they are using this time in which they are in power to infiltrate into every sections be it academia or intelligentsia or administration...they are severely trying to establish a narrative which serves their targets...remember rss plays a long game and they don't mind minor setbacks in this process...

[Telugodura456]

34 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

I don't get the argument at all , multiple leaders proposed demonitisation idea before as something radical . Even our own then CM. 

Several big shots in TDP knew about note ban , for example Narayana repaid local financiers hundreds of crores a month before note ban. 

Coming to the ideology itself ,

Even congress had the same ideology for fifty years through license Raj and socialism , they ensured that all economic means are in the hands of the family . It took an outsider and a crisis to change the system .

Keep them poor, keep them uneducated , keep them dependant on dole outs so that they will be forced to vote for you again

How does multiple influential and connected leaders knowing negates the arguement? First stop pulling TDP in to everything - we are talking about policies effecting 130 crore people here. You have to grow up a lil in this aspect. 

I am telling you this was designed by Tambrams close to RSS with a clear target of small time traders. Did they not lose with demon or not? did not corporates relatively benefit or not. so where is the confusion?

[Ryzen_renoir]

3 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

How does multiple influential and connected leaders knowing negates the arguement? First stop pulling TDP in to everything - we are talking about policies effecting 130 crore people here. You have to grow up a lil in this aspect. 

I am telling you this was designed by Tambrams close to RSS with a clear target of small time traders. Did they not lose with demon or not? did not corporates relatively benefit or not. so where is the confusion?

Ofcourse everyone lost , even the big guys. You do realise every alliance partner in NDA must take a proportionate blame for that stupid move 

In restrospective . You give them the choice between demo or no demonitisation , 99% of corporates will prefer not to do it .

The winner was BJP because it got them UP

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, Ayodhyaramayyaips said:

Nuvvu ichina angle kotha ga undhi and I'm curious yaar...but rss wants to strictly maintain the rigid social heirarchy as it is at any cost , so why do they portray yogi as their henchmen....they used moshaw to get the power but I will highly doubt they will continue this, they are using this time in which they are in power to infiltrate into every sections be it academia or intelligentsia or administration...they are severely trying to establish a narrative which serves their targets...remember rss plays a long game and they don't mind minor setbacks in this process...

RSS needs others to run politics - they cant run politics - they hate democratic policies because you need approval from masses. They are more comfortable manipulating from back.

But what you said is true but success is no longer guarenteed. I used to be a hardcore supporter of BJP some ten years back because it was normal thing to do. Whenever i had some interest in philospohy - all i got ws Iskcon or gita press nonsense  or vivekalanada nonsense in rail stations. I used to think thats the standard even though something alway seemed off.

Once moved to usa i was exposed to massive range of philosophies also real principles of democracy, equality etc. I realized how evil RSS really is.

Information now is more democratic than ever before. So changes will happen much more radically. They are trying to fight back on that too with sedition laws and ban on apps. But they cannot - they dont have guts to go against us.

Almost 2 decades or work to make hindu jats hate sikh jats was lost in six months due to farm laws. IN mahapanchayat Jat hindus openly apologized to muslims for aligning with BJP. Sikh opposition to BJP maybe even india got strengthened a lot.

Even Shiv sena keeps talking about india getting disintegrated they all figured out the rotteneness of RSS.

[Telugodura456]

12 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Ofcourse everyone lost , even the big guys. You do realise every alliance partner in NDA must take a proportionate blame for that stupid move 

In restrospective . You give them the choice between demo or no demonitisation , 99% of corporates will prefer not to do it .

The winner was BJP because it got them UP

chaa .. TDP has no say in what BJP does - they had absolute majority. It seems that became an addiction to you like a cigarette addiction. 

I already said that RSS does not mind everyone getting poor as long as some people get MORE poor. Yea corporates lost but thats not the point. Do you read anything other than bashing TDP at all ?

[Telugodura456]

It is this guy who architected Demon:

https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politics/indias-modi-trusts-this-accountant-more-than-ivy-league-economists/91372/

[NiranjanGaaru]

@Telugodura456yogi is not a fool he has powerful vargam behind him in North, so RSS enni kathalu padina his image perugudhhi tappa will not decrease, hindu yuva vahini athani own org, RSS oppose chesindi but public lo craze vallana cm ayadu

[Thokkalee]

Why do we care about what a one-time CM does in one of the tens of states in India?? 

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

@Telugodura456yogi is not a fool he has powerful vargam behind him in North, so RSS enni kathalu padina his image perugudhhi tappa will not decrease, hindu yuva vahini athani own org, RSS oppose chesindi but public lo craze vallana cm ayadu

Yea thats what i am saying. RSS doesnt like Yogi - that doesnt mean yogi is patheeth - he is still horrible. He doesnt have any powerful vargam though just a mass base. 

[undarware_troller]

8 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

How does multiple influential and connected leaders knowing negates the arguement? First stop pulling TDP in to everything - we are talking about policies effecting 130 crore people here. You have to grow up a lil in this aspect. 

I am telling you this was designed by Tambrams close to RSS with a clear target of small time traders. Did they not lose with demon or not? did not corporates relatively benefit or not. so where is the confusion?

Y do u get irritated when shortcoming of TDP is shown? CBN thanked Bodi for taking decision based on his letter. CBNs letter asked for ban on certain denominations as claimed by him. 

[NiranjanGaaru]

9 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Yea thats what i am saying. RSS doesnt like Yogi - that doesnt mean yogi is patheeth - he is still horrible. He doesnt have any powerful vargam though just a mass base. 

What are u saying man, his vargam kshatriyas  has 60 mps, 6 cms across India, raman singh , shivraj singh chouhan are his open supporters