Seema public ni valla own politicians baaga mosam chestunaru

[Telugodura456]

Both seema and telangana areas are several times more casteist than kostha. The difference is simple in TG and seema there is no big rivalry among agravarnas themselves - in TG especially they nicely come together to exploit others. IN kostha upper castes genuinely fight among themselves and this resulted in better future for BC/SC/ST etc. Despite excellent dalit awareness in kostha - spread of christianity etc - there is no need for BSP or any such partt because both parties represent all these sections very well. In TG - reddies, velamas, munuru kapus, baapans nicely band to exploit others like vultures. In RS - teddies/balijas/baapans bind if needed. Ofcourse there is agravarna rivalry in TG (velama vs reddy) too and to some extent in RS (teddy vs balija vs some small kamma) but its very less compared to kostha.

[Telugodura456]

2 hours ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

Anantapur people looks matured to me, konchem dhimaak undhi, max people maku seperate state vaadhu ani

People ki TG meedha kooda eppudu demand ledhu. Remember the election results in 2004 and 2009.Idhantha kulala panchayati kosam siggulekunda divide chesukuni prajalaki future pattinchukokunda vunnaru.

[Telugodura456]

2 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Correct ga chepavu rayalaseema lo reddies , coastal lo kammas domination migatha vallani ranivaru .

It's best to divide the state and limit these leaders to their own areas . 

Migatha areas bagupaduthayi

This post the severe caste mentality you have. Rajakeyal makuntai memu cheskuntam prajalakendhuku anattu vundhi. the biggest opposition to kammas came in kostha not in other places. Why cant you never say lets people of rayalaseema and kostha unite and throw away these dominant caste who together do not have more than 10 percent. Dividing the state never solve anything because ultimately center becomes more powerful and it is the worst casteist entity in whole of india.

[Ryzen_renoir]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Both seema and telangana areas are several times more casteist than kostha. The difference is simple in TG and seema there is no big rivalry among agravarnas themselves - in TG especially they nicely come together to exploit others. IN kostha upper castes genuinely fight among themselves and this resulted in better future for BC/SC/ST etc. Despite excellent dalit awareness in kostha - spread of christianity etc - there is no need for BSP or any such partt because both parties represent all these sections very well. In TG - reddies, velamas, munuru kapus, baapans nicely band to exploit others like vultures. In RS - teddies/balijas/baapans bind if needed. Ofcourse there is agravarna rivalry in TG (velama vs reddy) too and to some extent in RS (teddy vs balija vs some small kamma) but its very less compared to kostha.

Enti rayalaseema, Telangana lo agravarnalo rivalry ledha ?  inka apu nayana almost fuedal system akkada . 

Rivalry undedhey upper caste people ki Madhya . Chaitanyam ledhu anu oka ardham untadhi .

Telangana vidipoyina tharuvatha asalu emi caste politics undhi ?  

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

People ki TG meedha kooda eppudu demand ledhu. Remember the election results in 2004 and 2009.Idhantha kulala panchayati kosam siggulekunda divide chesukuni prajalaki future pattinchukokunda vunnaru.

Enti kulala panchayati aa ?  Inka bagundhi .

KCR took the advantage of weak leadership of congress and raised the feelings 

Middle class people lo across the line everyone felt separate Telangana is the right thing .

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

This post the severe caste mentality you have. Rajakeyal makuntai memu cheskuntam prajalakendhuku anattu vundhi. the biggest opposition to kammas came in kostha not in other places. Why cant you never say lets people of rayalaseema and kostha unite and throw away these dominant caste who together do not have more than 10 percent. Dividing the state never solve anything because ultimately center becomes more powerful and it is the worst casteist entity in whole of india.

When these dominant forces control the capital , media and institutions there is no chance for others to raise their voice . 

Dividing the states solves local governance , when existing systems ahve failed to follow a good path . It is better to search for better alternatives . 

Center is already powerful going from 20 to 10 will change nothing .

Look at Puducherry  , small state but the people are happy . Ultimately people should be the winners not the leaders

[Ryzen_renoir]

10 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

This post the severe caste mentality you have. Rajakeyal makuntai memu cheskuntam prajalakendhuku anattu vundhi. 

Prabhakar garu konchem open ga cheparu , migatha vallu are too cunning to let these feelings out .  

Like I said this is how most of big shot leaders in TDP and YCP feel

https://youtu.be/0rbUcVJM8Lk

 

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

When these dominant forces control the capital , media and institutions there is no chance for others to raise their voice . 

Dividing the states solves local governance , when existing systems ahve failed to follow a good path . It is better to search for better alternatives . 

Center is already powerful going from 20 to 10 will change nothing .

Look at Puducherry  , small state but the people are happy . Ultimately people should be the winners not the leaders

First of all you are way exaggerating any so-called domination. Media, capital insitutiion domination did not prevent TDP being defeated so many times in elecitons. In fact in united AP it was possible to have a komati like Rosiah as CM - is that even a possibility? in united AP someone like PRP managed 18% vote share - how much did JS make ? Second is you are saying  capital, media and institutions are problem. How will you take away any of them with division? they all are now more concentrated than ever. For you the prroblem is kamma leadership thats all - if taking it down  means you can burn every village to ashes you will do it because your casteist ego wants it replaced with a caste you like - with another capital, another media and another insitutuion. Otherwise no one will argue that just because 5% of pop "control" something other 95% should divide themselves.

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

First of all you are way exaggerating any so-called domination. Media, capital insitutiion domination did not prevent TDP being defeated so many times in elecitons. In fact in united AP it was possible to have a komati like Rosiah as CM - is that even a possibility? in united AP someone like PRP managed 18% vote share - how much did JS make ? Second is you are saying  capital, media and institutions are problem. How will you take away any of them with division? they all are now more concentrated than ever. For you the prroblem is kamma leadership thats all - if taking it down  means you can burn every village to ashes you will do it because your casteist ego wants it replaced with a caste you like - with another capital, another media and another insitutuion. Otherwise no one will argue that just because 5% of pop "control" something other 95% should divide themselves.

You are lacking coherence in your argument . 

Rosaih was only cm because maha metha died , reddies  will never let others preside over them and that's why congress immediately removed rosaih in less than a year .

PRP antey Chiranjeevi is a big star he had a clear message of independence stance  on politics of existing ones .  PK is just a pilla bacha before Chiru  and he had no stance at all. 

I will always advocate division of power when existing institutions keep failing to ensure fair leadership . 

I don't want to advocate to take  away anything from anyone which rightly belongs to them

 

[kidney]

8 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

First of all you are way exaggerating any so-called domination. Media, capital insitutiion domination did not prevent TDP being defeated so many times in elecitons. In fact in united AP it was possible to have a komati like Rosiah as CM - is that even a possibility? in united AP someone like PRP managed 18% vote share - how much did JS make ? Second is you are saying  capital, media and institutions are problem. How will you take away any of them with division? they all are now more concentrated than ever. For you the prroblem is kamma leadership thats all - if taking it down  means you can burn every village to ashes you will do it because your casteist ego wants it replaced with a caste you like - with another capital, another media and another insitutuion. Otherwise no one will argue that just because 5% of pop "control" something other 95% should divide themselves.

Kamma, Komati shaare kadhu kaka..

Did Baboru give agreement letter for seperate TG??

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

You are lacking coherence in your argument . 

Rosaih was only cm because maha metha died , reddies  will never let others preside over them and that's why congress immediately removed rosaih in less than a year .

PRP antey Chiranjeevi is a big star he had a clear message of independence stance  on politics of existing ones .  PK is just a pilla bacha before Chiru  and he had no stance at all. 

I will always advocate division of power when existing institutions keep failing to ensure fair leadership . 

I don't want to advocate to take  away anything from anyone which rightly belongs to them

 

so you want 95% of people to divide themselves because 5% of people cannot be "defeated" ? division of power makes you only smaller in front of delhi. One should ask for transfer of power from ruling to ruled. 

 

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, kidney said:

Kamma, Komati shaare kadhu kaka..

Did Baboru give agreement letter for seperate TG??

you want seperate TG baa because you dont like kammas thats all. It is just a kulal panchayati. Otherwise is there any real reason for it. 

[kidney]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

you want seperate TG baa because you dont like kammas thats all. It is just a kulal panchayati. Otherwise is there any real reason for it. 

TG kammas okarae vundaru...

That was a wave... every cassette poor, rich,.. employees.. fought..

TG agitation lo caste equation ledhu kaka.. andhukae success aiyyindhi

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

so you want 95% of people to divide themselves because 5% of people cannot be "defeated" ? division of power makes you only smaller in front of delhi. One should ask for transfer of power from ruling to ruled. 

 

We have strong regional identies In rayalaseema , kosta Andhra , uttarandhra .when a particular leadership from once place fails to reach the aspirations of others it is better to part . 

Take amaravathi people , they feel  rayalaseema CM Jagan is not in favour of their region.  It is better to clear division of power that these regional aspirations are satisfied .

Kesineni nani CM avuthadu , they are free to pursue whatever they wish for with their resources .

We need a new Sri bagh agreement to ensure that resources of state are equaly distributed and there is justice in between these regions . 

Ippudu Jagan vachi motham vizag lo pedithey migatha vallu emi kavali ?  There needs to be a clear mechanism to ensure that all regions get their fair share of taxes and central grants . 

[Ryzen_renoir]

6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

you want seperate TG baa because you dont like kammas thats all. It is just a kulal panchayati. Otherwise is there any real reason for it. 

Separate Telangana appindhi reddies kadha ?  Madhyalo kamma ekkada vachindhi ? In fact KCR allied with babu in 2009 

Maha metha inko one year untey KCR would have been a congress party member