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13 minutes ago, kidney said:

many religions Xtiand, jews, islam.. believe in reincarnation kaka

yep true that. my friend is a true christian and he's much more into this re incarnation than us. 

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10 minutes ago, betapilli said:

See you're basically saying things that are written and taking it word to word. What I said is that, the reason scriptures are written, religion is preached is to teach us good values, good morals to lead this life. You should not take what is written in scriptures based on the wording but based on the intent behind the wording. 

You're saying it's God's mistake that some people are poor and some people are rich. What I am saying is humans mistake, not God's mistake. The reason kids in Africa starve is because of the failure of the Government, failure of the country, failure of fellow humans to provide food for kids in Africa. It is not God's fault. When it is written that God created humans, the intent is that God is the creator of life, for example siva lingam which resembles a penis is a God that people worship in Hinduism. The intent behind worshipping a Lingam is not worshipping a stone, but a human body part that is the creator of life. In other words, the intent is not to assume that something outside mankind is cause of life, but rather a body part of man is the creator of life. So yes, the reason there is suffering is because we as humans failed to save fellow humans from dieing of hunger, it's not God's fault. 

lol i didnt say its god mistake, i just questioned why ?

i know the answer for that, but you're saying that you struggle today you enjoy tomorrow is bull . 

Thats when i hopped in. 

You claim you're a sanathana dharma follower and you didnt know about Law of Karma is just sad. 

The kids instance that i said above is part of the Law of karma, they do not have much choice here, they had to go thru that tough life, i feel that's injustice, cos they're only kids, but Law of Karma do not have any exceptions for Kids or any living being. :)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

lol i didnt say its god mistake, i just questioned why ?

 

 

i know the answer for that, but you're saying that you struggle today you enjoy tomorrow is bull . 

 
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Thats when i hopped in. 

You claim you're a sanathana dharma follower and you didnt know about Law of Karma is just sad. 

The kids instance that i said above is part of the Law of karma, they do not have much choice here, they had to go thru that tough life, i feel that's injustice, cos they're only kids, but Law of Karma do not have any exceptions for Kids or any living being. :)

 

 

It's a good thing that you question the Dharma, it's true that some people suffer like you point out, but I don't believe it's because of their karma in past life. I think there is more to life than that, I am curious to find out. 

I am not a believer of Santhana Dharma, I only believe that parts of Santhana Dharma that suits me. For instance, I am not sure I believe in reincarnation yet. I think it is something I will explore based on my experiences. I don't believe in something before I experience it personally. I believe in something based on my experiences, not necessarily based on what someone will tell me. 

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13 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

lol 

god created this earth, and later he created mankind male and female and also gave us the opportunity to develop mankind like a big human family, along with other creatures, hence we are all here on this lovely planet earth a creation of god. 

 

No, I believe that God exists in self, once you get rid of Satva gunam, thamo gunam and rajo gunam, that's when you can see God in yourself. But the cause of life is a human body part, you can call it God for all I care. Dhasavatharam represents evolution, so no, I don't think God created human, I think humans evolved from other life forms. 

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5 minutes ago, betapilli said:

It's a good thing that you question the Dharma, it's true that some people suffer like you point out, but I don't believe it's because of their karma in past life. I think there is more to life than that, I am curious to find out. 

I am not a believer of Santhana Dharma, I only believe that parts of Santhana Dharma that suits me. For instance, I am not sure I believe in reincarnation yet. I think it is something I will explore based on my experiences. I don't believe in something before I experience it personally. I believe in something based on my experiences, not necessarily based on what someone will tell me. 

you do not have a choice, just because you say you dont know or didnt exp yet, you cant claim thats its wrong or dont know, 

You will done at the end of your life, then you move on to your next birth, based on the good things you did in this life, your next would be decided, eveything wll be calculated like what % you did good and bad, 

So what i recommend is, all you could do now is do good and keep doing it until youre done with this life.

Sanathana Dharma talks about reincarnation, you should study and know about it. 

 

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9 minutes ago, betapilli said:

No, I believe that God exists in self, once you get rid of Satva gunam, thamo gunam and rajo gunam, that's when you can see God in yourself. But the cause of life is a human body part, you can call it God for all I care. Dhasavatharam represents evolution, so no, I don't think God created human, I think humans evolved from other life forms. 

doesnt matter what you or me think right, it is what it is, God created us mankind just like he did other creatures. 

Hinduism also says so.. we do have dasavatara, and we are in his list of creations. 

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15 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

doesnt matter what you or me think right, it is what it is, God created us mankind just like he did other creatures. 

Hinduism also says so.. we do have dasavatara, and we are in his list of creations. 

Does it also say that God is in sperm? The reason it says God created us, is because the end of Hinduthva, you want to realize that God in oneself. So, if God is in human, and human created life, by extrapolation, God created life. 

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23 minutes ago, Peter123 said:

you do not have a choice, just because you say you dont know or didnt exp yet, you cant claim thats its wrong or dont know, 

You will done at the end of your life, then you move on to your next birth, based on the good things you did in this life, your next would be decided, eveything wll be calculated like what % you did good and bad, 

So what i recommend is, all you could do now is do good and keep doing it until youre done with this life.

Sanathana Dharma talks about reincarnation, you should study and know about it. 

 

I don't believe in reincarnation, I didn't believe in Santhana Dharma because I read it. I believe in some parts Santhana Dharma because I came to the same conclusion as some of the scriptures, so I follow it. It's not because it's written that I follow it. I follow it because I came to the same conclusion as is written in scriptures. If I come to the same conclusion about reincarnation, then I will believe in it. 

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1 hour ago, betapilli said:

I don't believe in reincarnation, I didn't believe in Santhana Dharma because I read it. I believe in some parts Santhana Dharma because I came to the same conclusion as some of the scriptures, so I follow it. It's not because it's written that I follow it. I follow it because I came to the same conclusion as is written in scriptures. If I come to the same conclusion about reincarnation, then I will believe in it. 

few believes incarnation (Chemical).. Few believes light ( antharathma/ meditation)... Few believes Heat ( Sanathana)

Energy exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work

@betapilli i think u believe in light

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6 hours ago, betapilli said:

I don't believe in reincarnation, I didn't believe in Santhana Dharma because I read it. I believe in some parts Santhana Dharma because I came to the same conclusion as some of the scriptures, so I follow it. It's not because it's written that I follow it. I follow it because I came to the same conclusion as is written in scriptures. If I come to the same conclusion about reincarnation, then I will believe in it. 

doesnt matter if you believe it or not, its upto you..

 

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4 hours ago, AndhraPickles said:

Vaaaammmo......ee threaddu lu andaru pedda pedda sanaaaathanulu unnaaaru ga.....🤣

Thermodynamics theory kaka..

Energy exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work

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14 hours ago, betapilli said:

I see Bhagavadgeeta as a scripture, a scripture that tells you a way of life, the way of life of Santana Dharma. The scripture itself is a proof in itself. The point of Geeta is not whether Krishna actually told Arjuna about Geeta on warfront or not, the point of Geeta is teaching you a way of life. You do not read scriptures based on the story, but based on what they teach you from the stories. So, proving whether Rama really went to Lanka to kill Ravana or not is not really what Hindhuthva is about. The point of Ramayana is understanding the the thatvam of Rama, Seetha and Ravana. 

The modern day Hinduism is clouded by misinformation and the need to prove the existence of God, but that's not what Santhana Dharma is about. Believing in this misinformation campaign is what leads to superstitions. Hinduism is based on scientific inquisitiveness, based on your quest to find the truth. I do not see any difference between the quest of find God in Hinduism and the quest to find the truth in science. Santhana Dharma is supposed to increase your scientific inquisitiveness by making you question practises, not cloud your judgement by believing in superstitions.

Coming to your question about Karma yoga, yes, I do not work to get paid, I work because doing my work is my karthavyam. That's what I believe in as a way of life. 

 

You have answered it yourselves, this is the exact way people rationalize based on their belief system in anything they do

which part if misinformation is Hinduism, astrology was one of sciences deeply embedded in everything we do, what are tithis and nakshatras based on, they are not superstition, even there are certain tithis for rituals for a reason

you seem to imply astrology is superstition, its not

most of the ritualistic details are misguided by B for economic reasons, the science it is not superstition

 

 

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10 hours ago, betapilli said:

I don't believe in reincarnation, I didn't believe in Santhana Dharma because I read it. I believe in some parts Santhana Dharma because I came to the same conclusion as some of the scriptures, so I follow it. It's not because it's written that I follow it. I follow it because I came to the same conclusion as is written in scriptures. If I come to the same conclusion about reincarnation, then I will believe in it. 

sanathan dharma is not defined by what you believe or don't believe in, its defined by what we learn and adapt

reincarnation believe cheyadam ledante you have no clue on sanathan dharma, there are many examples that are part of SD to clearly define and cite many examples of Reincarnation, you may be following westernized concept of sanathan dharma that is being used for commercial purposes or ricebag adapted

conclusion is your perceived perception that will change when you learn new things and also achieve enough maturity to understand new things

 

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