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Absolute truth, relativism, self refuting


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“Relativism reduces every element of absoluteness to relativity while making a completely illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Fundamentally it consists in propounding the claim that there is no truth as if this were truth or in declaring it to be absolutely true that there is nothing but the relatively true; one might just as well say that there is no language or write that there is no writing. In short, every idea is reduced to a relativity of some sort, whether psychological, historical, or social; but the assertion nullifies itself by the fact that it too presents itself as a psychological, historical, or social relativity. The assertion nullifies itself if it is true and by nullifying itself logically proves thereby that it is false; its initial absurdity lies in the implicit claim to be unique in escaping, as if by enchantment, from a relativity that is declared to be the only possibility.”


 Frithjof Schuon, Logic and Transcendence

 

80% daka em chepthundo ardam avvaledu......can anyone translate into telugu

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1 hour ago, Lonelyloner said:

“Relativism reduces every element of absoluteness to relativity while making a completely illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Fundamentally it consists in propounding the claim that there is no truth as if this were truth or in declaring it to be absolutely true that there is nothing but the relatively true; one might just as well say that there is no language or write that there is no writing. In short, every idea is reduced to a relativity of some sort, whether psychological, historical, or social; but the assertion nullifies itself by the fact that it too presents itself as a psychological, historical, or social relativity. The assertion nullifies itself if it is true and by nullifying itself logically proves thereby that it is false; its initial absurdity lies in the implicit claim to be unique in escaping, as if by enchantment, from a relativity that is declared to be the only possibility.”


 Frithjof Schuon, Logic and Transcendence

 

80% daka em chepthundo ardam avvaledu......can anyone translate into telugu

I'll translate it tomorrow give me some time 

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1 hour ago, Lonelyloner said:

“Relativism reduces every element of absoluteness to relativity while making a completely illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Fundamentally it consists in propounding the claim that there is no truth as if this were truth or in declaring it to be absolutely true that there is nothing but the relatively true; one might just as well say that there is no language or write that there is no writing. In short, every idea is reduced to a relativity of some sort, whether psychological, historical, or social; but the assertion nullifies itself by the fact that it too presents itself as a psychological, historical, or social relativity. The assertion nullifies itself if it is true and by nullifying itself logically proves thereby that it is false; its initial absurdity lies in the implicit claim to be unique in escaping, as if by enchantment, from a relativity that is declared to be the only possibility.”


 Frithjof Schuon, Logic and Transcendence

 

 

 

80% daka em chepthundo ardam avvaledu......can anyone translate into telugu

It is saying that relativism makes it so that there is no absolute truth. Think of it using frames of reference, there is no absolute frame of reference that will be applicable to everything. So, e logic ni extend cheste there is no absolute truth ani అవుతుంది, so the only thing that will remain true is that there is no absolute truth. If that's true, then the truth that there is no absolute truth will become false. So, that's the logical complexity of relativism. 

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3 hours ago, Lonelyloner said:

“Relativism reduces every element of absoluteness to relativity while making a completely illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Fundamentally it consists in propounding the claim that there is no truth as if this were truth or in declaring it to be absolutely true that there is nothing but the relatively true; one might just as well say that there is no language or write that there is no writing. In short, every idea is reduced to a relativity of some sort, whether psychological, historical, or social; but the assertion nullifies itself by the fact that it too presents itself as a psychological, historical, or social relativity. The assertion nullifies itself if it is true and by nullifying itself logically proves thereby that it is false; its initial absurdity lies in the implicit claim to be unique in escaping, as if by enchantment, from a relativity that is declared to be the only possibility.”


 Frithjof Schuon, Logic and Transcendence

 

80% daka em chepthundo ardam avvaledu......can anyone translate into telugu

English baaga nerchuko. if you wanna become a genius, Telugu or any other language doesn't have enough words to describe the complexity of human thought. 

Also genius in one field is dumb in another ani marchipoku. hehe.. Iron Man is fantasy, Elon Musk is a fraud.

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The tragedy of philosophy is that casual readers unironically tend to apply it to their lives, like lab rats that are allowed to read manuals and sacrifice themselves at the high altar of scientific research.

 

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3 hours ago, Lonelyloner said:

“Relativism reduces every element of absoluteness to relativity while making a completely illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. Fundamentally it consists in propounding the claim that there is no truth as if this were truth or in declaring it to be absolutely true that there is nothing but the relatively true; one might just as well say that there is no language or write that there is no writing. In short, every idea is reduced to a relativity of some sort, whether psychological, historical, or social; but the assertion nullifies itself by the fact that it too presents itself as a psychological, historical, or social relativity. The assertion nullifies itself if it is true and by nullifying itself logically proves thereby that it is false; its initial absurdity lies in the implicit claim to be unique in escaping, as if by enchantment, from a relativity that is declared to be the only possibility.”


 Frithjof Schuon, Logic and Transcendence

 

80% daka em chepthundo ardam avvaledu......can anyone translate into telugu

Avi anni kadu kani 

Evi follow aitay em anna $$ 

 

Vastaya 

 

 

 

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Just now, kevinUsa said:

Avi anni kadu kani 

Evi follow aitay em anna $$ 

 

Vastaya 

 

 

 

unnadhi pothayi.

btw, avi anni follow avvataaniki raayaledhu. They are all thought experiments that have no applications.

may be edanna pori padachu, if you are in your 20s, ilanti sollu chepte.. beyond that no practical use.

dabbulu sampayinchi em chestav? adhi kooda total waste aey.

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1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

unnadhi pothayi.

btw, avi anni follow avvataaniki raayaledhu. They are all thought experiments that have no applications.

may be edanna pori padachu, if you are in your 20s, ilanti sollu chepte.. beyond that no practical use.

dabbulu sampayinchi em chestav? adhi kooda total waste aey.

Paisa me paramatma 

99.99 % of all problems can be solved by money 

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13 minutes ago, kevinUsa said:

Paisa me paramatma 

99.99 % of all problems can be solved by money 

How much money?

if that's true, there would be no problems in upper/middle class society. making money if you are born in uppercaste/class is just child's play. unless you spit on the system that sustains you.

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27 minutes ago, kevinUsa said:

Paisa me paramatma 

99.99 % of all problems can be solved by money 

anyway, these are just mental masturbation tools. They may help unlock a higher level of brain function if you keep playing these logic games. who knows. 

but mostly even if they do improve your brain function, its largely useless in a society that remains steadfastly mediocre, still playing social games from when humans lived in caves.

as long as you take yourself way too seriously, everything you do or learn is a total waste of time. including making money. 

ofcourse if you have simple pleasures and habits, money does help.

 

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