Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: dude, when the issue here is oxygen shortage, and the states are not allowed to procure by themselves, then it means this issue is no longer related only to the state... If the center actually made the oxygen available through their sophisticated procurement methods, are the people dying of lack of oxygen crisis acting? what are you even trying to say? Oxygen crisis is not because of the shortage of it. It is because of the lack of containers hence various private entities like Tata and others came into the picture to import cryogenic containers, and India importing those containers from Singapore during the past few days and the latest from the Western nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: From your own link: Currently, oxygen is being allocated centrally and its supply being monitored by an Empowered Group 2 (EG 2) constituted by the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) to look into the oxygen supply to states. The EG 2 has members from all the states and all major oxygen producers, the All India Industrial Gases Manufacturers’ Association (AIIGMA), Petroleum and Explosives Safety Organisation (PESO), the road transport ministry and the Indian Railways. ----------------- If this arrangement worked, why are we facing this crisis? waht's the point of you claiming that health is a state subject at this time? Also from my link: During the second wave of Covid-19 pandemic, the demand shot up over 5,000 TPD of medical oxygen — seven times the pre-pandemic requirements. Such a spike in demand for medical oxygen is due to the volume of Covid-19 cases in the country. Even at this rate, India is producing more medical oxygen than the requirement in hospitals. India’s daily oxygen-producing capacity is 7,287 tonnes per day. What is bogging India down currently is the shortage of cylinders and tankers that can transport oxygen from production plant to hospitals. Some firms such as the Tata Group even announced that it would be importing cryogenic containers for the transport of medical oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Birsa said: Oxygen crisis is not because of the shortage of it. It is because of the lack of containers hence various private entities like Tata and others came into the picture to import cryogenic containers, and India importing those containers from Singapore during the past few days and the latest from the Western nations. hopeless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeddiBK Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: actual ga nenu Modi against chaala takkuva post chesta.. nenu direct ga Indian middle class nay 10gutha.. Modi ranks somewhere on 5-6 on my objects of hate... number 1 position to Indian middle class. sare aithe ippudu full ga theruchukoni modi modi anu.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just now, Raven_Rayes said: hopeless.. Chill. Just check the news about cryogenic containers import you will know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just now, Birsa said: What is bogging India down currently is the shortage of cylinders and tankers that can transport oxygen from production plant to hospitals. Some firms such as the Tata Group even announced that it would be importing cryogenic containers for the transport of medical oxygen. why are you even posting this, when I didn't criticize oxygen allocation policy at all... right from the first post? you are trying argue a case that you made in your own head. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, YeddiBK said: sare aithe ippudu full ga theruchukoni modi modi anu.. ee db lo antha scene evadiki ledhu... max nee laaga naa g venaka padtharu anthe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Birsa said: Chill. Just check the news about cryogenic containers import you will know you guys are just super dumb. or you just keep shifting goalposts. are states responsible for these cryogenic containers? what are you trying to say wrt your original claim about health being a state subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said: why are you even posting this, when I didn't criticize oxygen allocation policy at all... right from the first post? you are trying argue a case that you made in your own head. lol. Because your argument that since Oxygen procurement is not at the state level, that exonerates the states from all matters of health is incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just now, Raven_Rayes said: you guys are just super dumb. or you just keep shifting goalposts. are states responsible for these cryogenic containers? what are you trying to say wrt your original claim about health being a state subject? From the first post itself I maintained that the logistics are something the states are responsible for. You are shifting the goalposts and losing patience unable to process a simple piece of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just now, Birsa said: From the first post itself I maintained that the logistics are something the states are responsible for. You are shifting the goalposts and losing patience unable to process a simple piece of information. this is a meaningless claim. nowhere in the link you posted says that states failed to procure those cryogenic containers (laughable argument).. 4 minutes ago, Birsa said: Because your argument that since Oxygen procurement is not at the state level, that exonerates the states from all matters of health is incorrect does your link say that the bottleneck in the logistics are the state's inefficiency in transporting the oxygen allocated to them by the super efficient PMO? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Birsa said: Because your argument that since Oxygen procurement is not at the state level, that exonerates the states from all matters of health is incorrect nice try.. but the issue here is oxygen availability. not 'all matters related to health'. current crisis created by bad planning from the center. Modi nay 10guthaaru.. you claimning health is state subject and then running in circles to explain that bs claim is just pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Birsa said: From the first post itself I maintained that the logistics are something the states are responsible for. You are shifting the goalposts and losing patience unable to process a simple piece of information. because I'm giving you a wide berth, and you are still arguing like an idiot. if i have to guess, you are karthikn or one amng that batch. super invested in defending the govt at all cost, even to make you look like fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said: this is a meaningless claim. nowhere in the link you posted says that states failed to procure those cryogenic containers (laughable argument).. does your link say that the bottleneck in the logistics are the state's inefficiency in transporting the oxygen allocated to them by the super efficient PMO? lol. Why laughable? Why else do you think they are importing cryogenic containers. Anyway, the fact of the matter is since there is an unprecedented demand for Oxygen which is creating the supply chain failures doesn’t exonerate state’s responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birsa Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: nice try.. but the issue here is oxygen availability. not 'all matters related to health'. current crisis created by bad planning from the center. Modi nay 10guthaaru.. you claimning health is state subject and then running in circles to explain that bs claim is just pathetic. It’s you that is running in circles. And making oxygen supply the crux of the argument to come to a baseless conclusion that state’s have no responsibility, which is baseless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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