Vaccination for 18-45 is another big JUMLA by FEKU

[Iriswest]

4 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

with a population of 139crore .. pandemic like this ochinapudu .. countries anni poll ayi shud help India in whatever way possible .. becos world is depending on india in many ways too

there is no right or wrong answer or approach to this pandemic .. this is novel .. new for everyone .. so enni measures theeskunna .. in a highly populous country like india lo u just can not control .. herd immunity is the only way to go anukunnaru .. and at 1 point they thought india achieved it .. 

i am not a blind supporter of bodi or shoe here .. reality lo aalochisthe u will know .. 

i get it. Andaru herd immunity vacchindi ane bhrama lo unnaru. Tv channels cases report cheyatam aapesai. But what about government? Vallaki daily reports raava? Where it is still active or when it is raising ani? When you see a rise in cases, isn’t that an indication to enforce rules again? What role did the government serve to avoid the 2nd wave?

[perugu_vada]

10 minutes ago, reality said:

US did a splendid job. 75% credit must be given to Trump.

 

6 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Yep. Transparency matters. Everyday press conference pettadu to monitor the status. He resisted the lockdowns but still gave states full permission to lockdown if necessary. Never questioned the vaccines effectiveness.

comparing US with India is not at all apt .. from finance to population perspective .. u are drawing comparisions with 30 cr population country with 140cr population .. with increase in numbers there comes increase in idealogies/perceptions/thought-process etc .. 

US lo ippatiki anti-vacciners rallies chesthuu untaaru .. 

[reality]

8 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

with a population of 139crore .. pandemic like this ochinapudu .. countries anni poll ayi shud help India in whatever way possible .. becos world is depending on india in many ways too

there is no right or wrong answer or approach to this pandemic .. this is novel .. new for everyone .. so enni measures theeskunna .. in a highly populous country like india lo u just can not control .. herd immunity is the only way to go anukunnaru .. and at 1 point they thought india achieved it .. 

i am not a blind supporter of bodi or shoe here .. reality lo aalochisthe u will know .. 

Population reason to some extent agree, but not to a level to cover up for current failures.

Directives, Procurement, approvals, funding must be done at center...followed by decentralized implementation. We have good decentralized system established already, in the form of states, districts, rural and so on, if they have a will to use.

[perugu_vada]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

i get it. Andaru herd immunity vacchindi ane bhrama lo unnaru. Tv channels cases report cheyatam aapesai. But what about government? Vallaki daily reports raava? Where it is still active or when it is raising ani? When you see a rise in cases, isn’t that an indication to enforce rules again? What role did the government serve to avoid the 2nd wave?

u really think govt has control on that ? Nenu 4 times Covid test cheyinchukunna when I was in india .. out of those only once register cheyincha .. so register cheyinchinave count lo ki vosthaay .. the reason y i say this so confidently is .. u register it using ur mobile phone .. so msg ostundi from arogyasri .. so it is like not even 1 in 10 cases will be registered .. so how can anyone know ? remember covid test kits govt supply em kadu .. only thing Govt have control over now is w.r.t remedisivir .. i know this again becos my mom was given remedisivir .. and for hospital to give it they needed aadhaar card .. adhi use chesi register chesthene it can be given 

[Iriswest]

3 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

 

ppl have witnessed with their own eyes how dangerous this virus is .. yet they ignored .. and cant really blame them 

u think lockdown is the way to go ? small business vaallu ela bathukuthaaru ? theatres/cabs/autos/function-halls/movies meedha bathi k vaallu entha mandhi unnaaru ? it is very easy for us in IT to sit at home and say things .. but in real-world it is not easy .. 

i say this again and again and again .. no political party or leader can stop this .. only hope is .. 100% effective therapeutics and vaccine .. 

my family escaped near death experience to safe now .. yet those who have witnessed with their own eyes are still neglecting .. that is the attitude of ppl  .. not just in india .. everywhere it is the same .. country like US can breath easy for now is becos it is not as populous as India is 

Nenu lockdown pettamani ekkada anna? Maha aithe zones ga classify chesina saripoiddi. That was flung out if the window after 1st wave. Persuasion ledu from government side to take the vaccine. They helped only till manufacturing. Andaru doctors ki mandate pass chesara, tell your patients to get vaccine ani? Leda TV lo ads vesara? You have to think of creative ways to a persuade the population which is hesitant. At least 25% anna vintaru.

[perugu_vada]

3 minutes ago, reality said:

Population reason to some extent agree, but not to a level to cover up for current failures.

Directives, Procurement, approvals, funding must be done at center...followed by decentralized implementation. We have good decentralized system established already, in the form of states, districts, rural and so on, if they have a will to use.

entha range lo spend chesadu Trump to procure vaccine ? ippatiki we are seeing the ability to make appointments at will .. 

it is very easy to say could've/should've/must've ani .. but in reality it is no way possible uncle .. 

i am neither blaming ppl in its entiriety .. nor supporting indian govt in this regard .. this virus is new .. and there is no right or wrong answer to it .. 

Yashoda lo roju ki 40 members used to die in the month of march .. how many did TRS release during that period ? 

sare right numbers release chesi  .. lockdown mode ki podham antaava .. that is not going to help like i explained above .. it is a very tricky situation .. 

[Iriswest]

3 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

u really think govt has control on that ? Nenu 4 times Covid test cheyinchukunna when I was in india .. out of those only once register cheyincha .. so register cheyinchinave count lo ki vosthaay .. the reason y i say this so confidently is .. u register it using ur mobile phone .. so msg ostundi from arogyasri .. so it is like not even 1 in 10 cases will be registered .. so how can anyone know ? remember covid test kits govt supply em kadu .. only thing Govt have control over now is w.r.t remedisivir .. i know this again becos my mom was given remedisivir .. and for hospital to give it they needed aadhaar card .. adhi use chesi register chesthene it can be given 

Again why isn’t it mandated that all tests should be reported to government? Why did they willingly leave a loophole?

[perugu_vada]

3 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Nenu lockdown pettamani ekkada anna? Maha aithe zones ga classify chesina saripoiddi. That was flung out if the window after 1st wave. Persuasion ledu from government side to take the vaccine. They helped only till manufacturing. Andaru doctors ki mandate pass chesara, tell your patients to get vaccine ani? Leda TV lo ads vesara? You have to think of creative ways to a persuade the population which is hesitant. At least 25% anna vintaru.

u can not pass a rule like that .. ninna vaccine veyinchukunna nenu .. when i asked the nurse who was vaccinating.., she is reluctant to take it .. she said i dont trust vaccines 

vaccine 100% safe ani ekkada publish cheyaledu .. incase emaina issue osthe who will take the responsibility ? do u think companies can impose a law stating everyone has to get vaccinated .. if not they will be fired ani ?? 

[Iriswest]

1 minute ago, perugu_vada said:

entha range lo spend chesadu Trump to procure vaccine ? ippatiki we are seeing the ability to make appointments at will .. 

it is very easy to say could've/should've/must've ani .. but in reality it is no way possible uncle .. 

i am neither blaming ppl in its entiriety .. nor supporting indian govt in this regard .. this virus is new .. and there is no right or wrong answer to it .. 

Yashoda lo roju ki 40 members used to die in the month of march .. how many did TRS release during that period ? 

sare right numbers release chesi  .. lockdown mode ki podham antaava .. that is not going to help like i explained above .. it is a very tricky situation .. 

Release the right stats and leave it to people if they want to risk their life or not. Underplaying the imminent threat only worsened the situation.

[perugu_vada]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

Again why isn’t it mandated that all tests should be reported to government? Why did they willingly leave a loophole?

u cant keep track of everything .. becos test kits govt nunchi raavu .. u are saying something like enable audit on every hospital and every lab 

[perugu_vada]

Just now, Iriswest said:

Release the right stats and leave it to people if they want to risk their life or not. Underplaying the imminent threat only worsened the situation.

it only could've delayed .. but never could've avoided it .. period

[Iriswest]

Just now, perugu_vada said:

u can not pass a rule like that .. ninna vaccine veyinchukunna nenu .. when i asked the nurse who was vaccinating.., she is reluctant to take it .. she said i dont trust vaccines 

vaccine 100% safe ani ekkada publish cheyaledu .. incase emaina issue osthe who will take the responsibility ? do u think companies can impose a law stating everyone has to get vaccinated .. if not they will be fired ani ?? 

Nenu mandate to advise ani antunna, not that balavantam ga veyandi ani. Doctors cheptunnaru ante vintaru. They have the power to tell government doctors to advise and ask private practitioners to do the same.

[Iriswest]

5 minutes ago, perugu_vada said:

u cant keep track of everything .. becos test kits govt nunchi raavu .. u are saying something like enable audit on every hospital and every lab 

Death counts aina correct ga release cheyochu ga.

[perugu_vada]

Just now, Iriswest said:

Nenu mandate to advise ani antunna, not that balavantam ga veyandi ani. Doctors cheptunnaru ante vintaru. They have the power to tell government doctors to advise and ask private practitioners to do the same.

Thanks to google .. now-a-days everybody became doctor .. so doctor cheppatam vinatam epudoo poyaay .. kids k sontha treatment cheyisthunnaru ... it could be due to corruption in medical industry and lack of trust 

[perugu_vada]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

Death counts aina correct ga release cheyochu ga.

ipudu 3k deaths ante janaalu aagipoyaru tiragakunda .. bayata thinakunda anukunte that is a mistake .. oka sari bayata ki velli video call chesi chupinchamanu evarini aina .. u will know what I am trying to say