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[Somedude]

Just now, reality said:

That’s not BJP’s gain... that’s Congress’s loss.

Regional parties strengthening and the only other national competitor Congress’s loss has become a blessing for BJs. There is nothing to brag about it. If they address this issue, BJP can suck balls...

How can you say that its not BJP gain when the numbers clearly say. Which party in India improved from 3 to 75 and become the main opposition party within 5 years?

[Spartan]

33 minutes ago, reality said:

Only solution is...

Congress need to act as a cohesive force and must make prepoll alliance with anti-BJP regional parties all over the country to help vote consolidation and also open up PM nominee.... with an agreement that whichever party wins more seats will have the PM candidate...

aine unte tella cheera endukani

did these states ever come together on any issue? 

okadiki dabbul iste.. ma deggara lakkoni vallaki istinnaru ani gola

thing is regional parties local ga power lo ravalante they have to oppose central schemes..ledu central to kalisi pata padatam ante TDP ki emaindo chusav ga .. that what happens

so as long as they foght against center they cannot survive without aupport of congress or bjp

[reality]

Just now, Somedude said:

How can you say that its not BJP gain when the numbers clearly say. Which party in India improved from 3 to 75 and become the main opposition party within 5 years?

Left lost its presence... thanks to Mamta... Congress sucked big time, thanks to Pappu... 

There is only one way left for anti-incumbent votes, that’s BJP’s 75 seats.. its a blessing rather than a muscle power.

 

[Somedude]

Just now, reality said:

Left lost its presence... thanks to Mamta... Congress sucked big time, thanks to Pappu... 

There is only one way left for anti-incumbent votes, that’s BJP’s 75 seats.. its a blessing rather than a muscle power.

 

Congress sucked, Left lost? Avi evaraki theliyadhu? thats not the point here.

Where its blessing or muscle power, doesn't matter. If there is any party in Bengal which gained substantially its only the BJP.

[reality]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

aine unte tella cheera endukani

did these states ever come together on any issue? 

okadiki dabbul iste.. ma deggara lakkoni vallaki istinnaru ani gola

thing is regional parties local ga power lo ravalante they have to oppose central schemes..ledu central to kalisi pata padatam ante TDP ki emaindo chusav ga .. that what happens

so as long as they foght against center they cannot survive without aupport of congress or bjp

Nenu cheppindi adhe kadha... Congress as a national party should take up the role as a cohesive force and hold these parties together, unless it shines by itself again, which I don’t think will happen in near future.

inka national issues responsibility antaava? Bodi gadu peekindhi enti... chusthunnav kada..

[Spartan]

4 minutes ago, reality said:

Nenu cheppindi adhe kadha... Congress as a national party should take up the role as a cohesive force and hold these parties together, unless it shines by itself again, which I don’t think will happen in near future.

inka national issues responsibility antaava? Bodi gadu peekindhi enti... chusthunnav kada..

did states regional parties unitedly oppose farm bill? wether the ones on power or opposition in state level

those are the instances where the fronts can show their strength 

akkade fail ayyaru opportunity ni 

inka kalisi emfight chestaru

 

[reality]

3 minutes ago, Somedude said:

Congress sucked, Left lost? Avi evaraki theliyadhu? thats not the point here.

Where its blessing or muscle power, doesn't matter. If there is any party in Bengal which gained substantially its only the BJP.

There’s a difference between balupu and vaapu.

[reality]

3 minutes ago, Spartan said:

did states regional parties unitedly oppose farm bill? wether the ones on power or opposition in state level

those are the instances where the fronts can show their strength 

akkade fail ayyaru opportunity ni 

inka kalisi emfight chestaru

 

Agree.. but, all it takes is a term of power... they are divided... like divided literally.... BJP is having fun..

[karthik25]

@realitybro..

Bengal lo anti-incumbency is not as strong as in other states. That's how CPI ruled for 3 decades. Mamta started TMC in late 90s. She became CM in 2011. Alane BJP is also improving its hold. 2014 lo Modi wave was unprecedented. But in Bengal BJP got only 2 seats. 2016 assembly elections lo 3 seats. Then 2019 LS lo 18, and now in 2021 assembly lo ~80. 

All this without a local face. 

If you don't see BJP improving there, how else can you justify these numbers? Congress sucked annav. But in Rajasthan they are back to power kada. Also in Chattisgarh. Left is strong in Kerala. They couldn't in Bengal. (Actually I feel they are happy supporting Mamta and keeping BJP at check). 

 

[karthik25]

Going forward,

Congress- a comeback is possible only if they get rid of the Gandhis. RaGa gadu muttukunte masi.

BJP- Should understand that certain people will never vote for them. Should focus on retaining current states than conquering more. Rajasthan, Maha, UP, MP, Guj., Karnataka.. ee states lo groom leaders who can pull of their respective states without Modi- Shah. 

May also need a diff PM face post 2024. 

[reality]

16 minutes ago, karthik25 said:

@realitybro..

Bengal lo anti-incumbency is not as strong as in other states. That's how CPI ruled for 3 decades. Mamta started TMC in late 90s. She became CM in 2011. Alane BJP is also improving its hold. 2014 lo Modi wave was unprecedented. But in Bengal BJP got only 2 seats. 2016 assembly elections lo 3 seats. Then 2019 LS lo 18, and now in 2021 assembly lo ~80. 

All this without a local face. 

If you don't see BJP improving there, how else can you justify these numbers? Congress sucked annav. But in Rajasthan they are back to power kada. Also in Chattisgarh. Left is strong in Kerala. They couldn't in Bengal. (Actually I feel they are happy supporting Mamta and keeping BJP at check). 

 

Congress Rajsthan lo strong unte Bengal lo undalani ledhu kada... they are reviving in those  places... where there is no regional alternative to BJP.. that’s the whole point I am making... they should patch up with strategic understanding with regional parties..

Again, BJP strengh is solely due to political vaccum...

[karthik25]

50 minutes ago, reality said:

Congress Rajsthan lo strong unte Bengal lo undalani ledhu kada... they are reviving in those  places... where there is no regional alternative to BJP.. that’s the whole point I am making... they should patch up with strategic understanding with regional parties..

agree

51 minutes ago, reality said:

Congress Rajsthan lo strong unte Bengal lo undalani ledhu kada... they are reviving in those  places... where there is no regional alternative to BJP.. that’s the whole point I am making... they should patch up with strategic understanding with regional parties..

Again, BJP strengh is solely due to political vaccum...

more examples of where they are doing this?

52 minutes ago, reality said:

Again, BJP strengh is solely due to political vaccum...

Soley anandam too much. But yes, there is some political vacuum. Piyush Goyal himself said this in a conference. 

Center lo there is political vacuum, not in state elections.

[Mirage]

2 hours ago, karthik25 said:

bokka bhi peekaleru 3rd front form chesi. Aina 2nd front ekkadundani LS elections lo? 

Point. He felt an alliance without Cong and BJP is possible. However other party leaders across that he thought would come together did not buy his theory. 

 

[paaparao]

3 hours ago, reality said:

Only solution is...

Congress need to act as a cohesive force and must make prepoll alliance with anti-BJP regional parties all over the country to help vote consolidation and also open up PM nominee.... with an agreement that whichever party wins more seats will have the PM candidate...

oh my lord......you are wasting time in self-agenda  and leg pulling thread.....

come to your proposal....

if any regional party is aligned in elections with congress.....then MOSHAs will use CBI and ED and IT Raids on their local leader to completely threaten them........They will use all means of power to block regional party leader's money, personal and other resources so they won't even campaign and reach voters with any soaps. that is the region regional parties are more scared than ever to MOSHAs.

That's why MOSHAs are called Dictators for India. We are screwed forever....

 

[reality]

1 hour ago, paaparao said:

oh my lord......you are wasting time in self-agenda  and leg pulling thread.....

come to your proposal....

if any regional party is aligned in elections with congress.....then MOSHAs will use CBI and ED and IT Raids on their local leader to completely threaten them........They will use all means of power to block regional party leader's money, personal and other resources so they won't even campaign and reach voters with any soaps. that is the region regional parties are more scared than ever to MOSHAs.

That's why MOSHAs are called Dictators for India. We are screwed forever....

 

I know right... 

That’s the peaks of numbness and slavery, taking pleasure in that @bold highlighted..