What is great about India?

[dasara_bullodu1]

5 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

what a pathetic response.

what is the single unifying idea for India beyond religion, and sharing of colonial history?

Well you only know about India colonized by British.. brainwashed by Congress

[Raven_Rayes]

Stupid Telugodura,

nuvvu India ni enthaina thittuko, aathcare naaku. Linguist nations ani sollu maatram oddu. 

French constitution of 1793, right after the French revolution, the gold stanadard for national constitutions (million times more inclusive than the US constitution that was created around the same time)

1.  all males over the age of 25 who lived and worked in France for over an year, or married a french woman are considered citizens

2. citizens right is not some divine right bestowed by god (like in 3rd rate US constitution), but through right of being a French citizen that the govt of France is bound to protect at all times. They have right to live, and right to health, etc.

3. Govt is responsible for the health and well being of its citizens, and should use public money to make life easy for its citizens.

This is the ideal of a nation. a govt that is created by the people to help the people. Not some stupid nation that was born out of cultural grievance, with no intention to address material needs of its citizens.

They had to add amendments to this document after 2yrs under pressure from French conservatives who believed that people had been given too much power. Today's France is a shadow of the one that created the first document. 

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If all you want is to serve people in their own language, you don't need a separate nation for it. State govts can already do it. I suspect that your rants on linguistic states has an sinister reason behind it. To reverse the gains of TG movement, which is why you are fascist scum.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, dasara_bullodu1 said:

Well you only know about India colonized by British.. brainwashed by Congress

That's the only India. everything else is just in your imagination. as far as cultural ties go, each region in India has ties that reach far beyond India.. 

India formed as a legacy of british raj. It destroyed Bengal, Punjab, Kashmir and TamilNadu in its formation.

you are just an arrogant Andhra fcuk who's smug about India's diversity, while stomping on the aspirations of the components of that nation. 

[Raven_Rayes]

stupid Telugodura,

what are the material needs of Andhra people. start from there.

instead of pretending that some top down solution of a Telugu nation would solve all Andhra's problems.

what a dumbfcuk you are.

[Raven_Rayes]

16 minutes ago, dasara_bullodu1 said:

Well you only know about India colonized by British.. brainwashed by Congress

musugu Hindutva fcuk. Tell me what are the conditions under which you would strip Indian citizenship for someone.

Lets assume you would strip mine. I doin't even want that stupid nation's citizenship. what are the standards you are going to use, and how will you apply this rule dispassionately on all ctizens equally.

both Hindus and muslims will be forced to renounce citizenship under whatever conditions you come up with.

but the reality today is, Hindus can talk whatever they want to in India.. eg. myself. The moment some muslim person does half of what i do, he will be considered a jihadi. 

That is the idea of India.

Its not diversity. Its Hindu supremacy. India is a safe space for 3rd rate Hindus to hide their mediocrity from the world, while shutting out progressive Hindus and muslims and others from public life. For muslims, shutting them out altogether.

[YeddiBK]

20 hours ago, veerigadu said:

Family, friends and village attachment concept ni pakkana petti realistically what is great about India?

Im willing to hear both positives and negatives and no offense intended at anyone

 

the only greatness about India is sanathana dharma which more than 90% of people don't even try to learn and understand and is highjacked by BJP and bhakts..

so right now except few who follow it, its total disaster.. I can't say we dont have hopes as I am not a pessimist.

[psycopk]

21 hours ago, veerigadu said:

Family, friends and village attachment concept ni pakkana petti realistically what is great about India?

Im willing to hear both positives and negatives and no offense intended at anyone

 

First line , temples, weather..

inka negatives ante shall we start with brothell house aka parliament?

[Azure]

3 minutes ago, psycopk said:

First line , temples, weather..

inka negatives ante shall we start with brothell house aka parliament?

Anna positive ante @C . B . N only anna in AP country 

[Telugodura456]

scumbag @Raven_Rayes arguements:

Arguement 1:

You: show me a single dalit or bahujan who says anything against india or TG

Me: well here are two - one is arguing against india and another saying seperate TG harmed bahujans

You: haha...fck face.. you showed just two ..hahaha fck face..hahah (forgetting that you said show me. single)

Me: well they are very prominent with thousands of followers and have award winning books and put their own security to say what they say

you: hahahah ..fck face ..i dont care about them hahaha

 

Argument 2 :

you : Kuffir says against north indians he hates them he is a hater .

Me : that possibly cannot be true. He provided platform to numerous north indians on his website and has many many followers of him. He may criticise them but he possibly cannot hate them

you: hahaha..you fck face..i dont care about kuffir ..you fck face ...hahahah..you fck face..i stopped following kuffir 10 years back i dont even know why

 

Argument 3 :

You: nation states did not for from language, kings formed them and imposed thier language

Me:  Not true. For eg. England kings were french but not only they failed to impose their language on people they themselves changed their language 

You: hahaha ..fck face ..what does that prove ..fck face...uk is a kingdom fck face ..hahahah

 

Arguement 4 :

you: show me how many dalits support this shoe me how many dalits support language based nations

me: well an idea should be debated on strenghts not popularity. India is a third world country and obviously good ideas will not be popular. If it were it wont be a gutter country. Anyway since you made in to popularity contest. How popular is your anti nation state solidarity?

you:.......................

 

Stop the shenanigans and fck off.

 

 

[Raven_Rayes]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

You: show me a single dalit or bahujan who says anything against india or TG

Me: well here are two - one is arguing against india and another saying seperate TG harmed bahujans

conveniently forget that the said bahujans should yearn for the better times during united AP.

Its a conversation that you forced on me fcukface. I have nothing to do with Telangana, other than a passing interest in its state movement. your made bombastic claiims that TG dalits would in fact be against the creation of the state. Its only natural to ask you to show me examples of this anti separate TG sentiment among TG dalits.

comments against TG uppercastes doesn't equate to anti separate TG sentiment. lol

5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

you : Kuffir says against north indians he hates them he is a hater .

Me : that possibly cannot be true. He provided platform to numerous north indians on his website and has many many followers of him. He may criticise them but he possibly cannot hate them

you: hahaha..you fck face..i dont care about kuffir ..you fck face ...hahahah..you fck face..i stopped following kuffir 10 years back i dont even know why

 

clutching at straws. lol. how does Kuffir's anti north statements matter to this discussion, when I am plainly stating that I don't have a problem with people who hate India? 

yes, blaming north indians for what the Indian state does is kinda racist. I don't even understand why a dalit activist is using that kind of bs language. Does he include north Indian dalits too in his rant against north Indians? lol

Kuffir seems to be an idiot from the rant you posted above.

8 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

You: nation states did not for from language, kings formed them and imposed thier language

Me:  Not true. For eg. England kings were french but not only they failed to impose their language on people they themselves changed their language 

You: hahaha ..fck face ..what does that prove ..fck face...uk is a kingdom fck face ..hahahah

yeah. its true. is UK not a union based on the british kingdom? France is too, Germany is too, with parts of austro-Hungarian empire. 

your entire thesis that linguistic nations are natural formations is just bs, because all these nations formed on basis of kingdoms they left behind, and not on basis of languages.

some of the nations did indeed form due to languages out of austro hungarian empire, but its not a hard and fast rule.

11 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

you: show me how many dalits support this shoe me how many dalits support language based nations

me: well an idea should be debated on strenghts not popularity. India is a third world country and obviously good ideas will not be popular. If it were it wont be a gutter country. Anyway since you made in to popularity contest. How popular is your anti nation state solidarity?

you:.......................

you call this a debate? lol idiot. 

you keep repeating bs claims that don't pass the smell test and expect me to take what you say seriously?

my thesis is not anti nation solidarity, asshole. What does that even mean, fcukface?

I said that communities can exist beyond barriers of nation and regions. and there's no need to inflict language as another political instrument apart from religion to exploit people.

[Raven_Rayes]

14 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Stop the shenanigans and fck off.

 

you haven't proven a single claim that you made. also you make childish points, and pretend like they are profound and require some level of deep understanding of human nature, when in fact you are just catering to the basest instincts of humans.... just like Sanghi fcuks do.

no wonder you get taken in by sanghis, but can't handle anti fascists like me. you are confused how to even respond to me. I understsand.

[Raven_Rayes]

18 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

scumbag @Raven_Rayes arguements:

looks like you have run out of excuses to justify your bs statements.

linguistic nations being the norm is just a bs theory you came up with, because you are pissed with TG formation is my understanding.

I wish you cry about this development for a long long time. 

[Raven_Rayes]

20 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Stop the shenanigans and fck off.

 

I'll stop if you apologize to me. lol. stupid fcuk. 

[Raven_Rayes]

attempting to politicize things like religion, language, ethnicity from a position of strength is the idea of fascists.

that's why you are a fascist Telugodura.

Go type this bs anywhere else on the internet. You'll be called out as fascist. This db doesn't actually read the crap you post. so nobody actually bothers you.

I won't read too, if you apologize to me, and stop tagging me needlessly.

[Telugodura456]

@Raven_Rayes

Rey disoriented moron - your posts show you dont know the difference between a nation, a state and a nation state. Not suprising because you are a mostly a gas bag with a andhra/ g axe to grind. thats the only emotion that guides you - no knowledge or facts.

The nation of france is French which was always based on language. The "state" changed. When french were ruled by kings the state was "monarchy"- in middle ages the state was "feudal" - and in modern age it is a "republic" and this is also called a "nation state" as the state is exclusively derived from nation (not birth like in monarchy) and nation "owns" the state - it can elect them and throw them away.

But in all this the nation is the same - French nation based on language.

BTW you trolled me in this thread interfering about me to some other fellow. Being a generally disoriented guy who is probably high on drugs msot of the time - you may not have nmoticed it.