Popular Post Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, siru said: why do people have to pay for vaccines? Free health care is a constitutional right that should be the starting point. migatha anni waste discussions.. but India state choodu ee roju. there are many people who defend the policy of giving private hospitals the vaccines. akkadey more than half the battle lost. inka Halwa laaga matter lekunna, just keep repeating propaganda and hope people get tired and stop paying attention. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaigan Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, snoww said: Pfizer won't work in India because of cold storage requirements. And also heard foreign vaccines have huge backlog because other countries already placed orders long time back. So global tenders kooda doubt laane vundi till they come. Edo India lo bad situation soosi mana orders prioritize sesthe hope vuntadi as I posted in another thread , it could be J&J vaccine or Sputnik Vaccine that helps the vaccine shortage in India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayodhyaramayyaips Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, siru said: why do people have to pay for vaccines? Free health care is a constitutional right It is a part of directive principles of state policy article 47 , not enforceble where as right to live is a fundamental right which is the enforceble .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 55 minutes ago, siru said: why do people have to pay for vaccines? Free health care is a constitutional right Evari constitution la ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 India may be world's largest vaccine maker but never ever in the history that the vaccine makers had to critically race against the time. Being world's largest vaccine maker will not help in present situation and what we need is the pace at which vaccines can be made. Indian vaccine makers may have the experience of producing ten's of billions of vaccines but they did so at their pace but not under present crisis where they have to do so racing against the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: India may be world's largest vaccine maker but never ever in the history that the vaccine makers had to critically race against the time. Being world's largest vaccine maker will not help in present situation and what we need is the pace at which vaccines can be made. Indian vaccine makers may have the experience of producing ten's of billions of vaccines but they did so at their pace but not under present crisis where they have to do so racing against the time. then why did we export vaccines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, siru said: then why did we export vaccines? which vaccines were exported ? and how many ? mari covishield vaccine formula SII ki phukat la ichinda astra zeneca odu? SII odu sonthanga tayar chesukunda ? Covishield is now the largest produced vaccine in India, amounting to almost 40% of the jabs in the days to come and formed about 70% of all the vaccines distributed till date. SII sonthanga develop chesinda ie vaccine ni ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: which vaccines were exported ? and how many ? mari covishield vaccine formula SII ki phukat la ichinda astra zeneca odu? SII odu sonthanga tayar chesukunda ? Covishield is now the largest produced vaccine in India, amounting to almost 40% of the jabs in the days to come and formed about 70% of all the vaccines distributed till date. SII sonthanga develop chesinda ie vaccine ni ? total 66.3 million doses exported https://www.mea.gov.in/vaccine-supply.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, siru said: total 56 million doses exported including covaxin 20 million https://www.mea.gov.in/vaccine-supply.htm Not 56 but its 66 million. 6.6 Cr doses, good enough to vaccinate about 3 crore population over 3-4 months, considering the pace at which we vaccinated in the month of Feb-March and in present times, about 1-2 months. That's about 2% of the population, and about 6-8% of the 55+ age population. Andulo about 46 million doses are by SII/Covishield. if we did not export these doses, Indian crisis would have been much more worst as Covishiled is patented and authorised to mass produce by Astra Zeneca. Ante, instead of increasing production, we would have watsed crucial time to negotiate the patent rights for covishield. In short, for exchange of 46 million doses, we have got rights to mass produce covishield for which productin is expected to be scaled to 100 million doses per month from August. By the way, EU is now suing Astra Zeneca for delay in supplying the vaccine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoww Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, siru said: total 66.3 million doses exported https://www.mea.gov.in/vaccine-supply.htm India lo corona poyindi anukoni export sesaru. Both government and people ignored vaccinations and thought second wave will never come because of our food habits, weather etc. Media kooda alane bhajana sesindi. now government is banning some exports. But I doubt how motivated those companies will be now to increase capacity since they can't export much which is major profit for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: Not 56 but its 66 million. 6.6 Cr doses, good enough to vaccinate about 3 crore population over 3-4 months, considering the pace at which we vaccinated in the month of Feb-March and in present times, about 1-2 months. That's about 2% of the population, and about 6-8% of the 55+ age population. Andulo about 46 million doses are by SII/Covishield. if we did not export these doses, Indian crisis would have been much more worst as Covishiled is patented and authorised to mass produce by Astra Zeneca. Ante, instead of increasing production, we would have watsed crucial time to negotiate the patent rights for covishield. In short, for exchange of 46 million doses, we have got rights to mass produce covishield for which productin is expected to be scaled to 100 million doses per month from August. By the way, EU is now suing Astra Zeneca for delay in supplying the vaccine now. why do we have to give them 46 million doses? can we not negotiate a deal like USA did with the companies? Also why isnt covaxin produced simultaneously by sii? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoww Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: . By the way, EU is now suing Astra Zeneca for delay in supplying the vaccine now. It's going to be a big legal mess. Indian government stopping exports now. But what should those countries do which already gave first dose and waiting for second dose shipments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, siru said: why do we have to give them 46 million doses? can we not negotiate a deal like USA did with the companies? Also why isnt covaxin produced simultaneously by sii? USA did for the vaccines they developed with in USA. They have control on them. USA will control anything that is with in its control. Pfizer-Moderna-Jannsen is where it can control, not other vaccines and markets. Why is covishield/astra-zeneca not available in USA then ? Why is covaxin not available in USA ? Why can't covaxin simultaneously produced by SII ante..adiki covishield vundi, adiki covishield rights vunaka covaxin vadu enduku produce chestadu ? Indukosame kada IP rights peeki dobbandi ani adugutundi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapchik123 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: USA did for the vaccines they developed with in USA. They have control on them. USA will control anything that is with in its control. Pfizer-Moderna-Jannsen is where it can control, not other vaccines and markets. Why is covishield/astra-zeneca not available in USA then ? Why is covaxin not available in USA ? Why can't covaxin simultaneously produced by SII ante..adiki covishield vundi, adiki covishield rights vunaka covaxin vadu enduku produce chestadu ? Indukosame kada IP rights peeki dobbandi ani adugutundi... lol its like someone coming and asking you , you have more money than a homeless person why are u not sharing your paycheck with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, rapchik123 said: lol its like someone coming and asking you , you have more money than a homeless person why are u not sharing your paycheck with them homeless is india? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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