jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, snoww said: It's going to be a big legal mess. Indian government stopping exports now. But what should those countries do which already gave first dose and waiting for second dose shipments. Andaru vaccine export ni criticise chestunaru kani, if we do not resume partial vaccine export soon then India will repent for ever. India is going to loose its biggest pharma market, EU for ever. Indian vaccine export ban is the single point agenda for EU not agreeing to IP rights waiver. Unless we provide enough confidence, EU will never agree for intellectual property rights waiver and without IP waiver, we cannot export more and if we cannot export then forget pharma market for ever. there will be trade blockade's and black listing. This will hurt for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: USA did for the vaccines they developed with in USA. They have control on them. USA will control anything that is with in its control. Pfizer-Moderna-Jannsen is where it can control, not other vaccines and markets. Why is covishield/astra-zeneca not available in USA then ? Why is covaxin not available in USA ? Why can't covaxin simultaneously produced by SII ante..adiki covishield vundi, adiki covishield rights vunaka covaxin vadu enduku produce chestadu ? Indukosame kada IP rights peeki dobbandi ani adugutundi... from my understanding , US gave financial aid to develop vaccines under operation warp speed with a condition that they get first dibs on the vaccines produced. Indian govt didnt give any aid to companies in india. basically they could’ve save more money by giving out aid than paying foreign companies now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, siru said: why do we have to give them 46 million doses? can we not negotiate a deal like USA did with the companies? Also why isnt covaxin produced simultaneously by sii? exports were contractual obligations. They are not the problem. banning them is an act of stupidity by the Indian govt. Not having covaxin produced by dozens of labs across India, however, is an act of malice. For which Modi must be hanged publicly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: Andaru vaccine export ni criticise chestunaru kani, if we do not resume partial vaccine export soon then India will repent for ever. India is going to loose its biggest pharma market, EU for ever. Indian vaccine export ban is the single point agenda for EU not agreeing to IP rights waiver. Unless we provide enough confidence, EU will never agree for intellectual property rights waiver and without IP waiver, we cannot export more and if we cannot export then forget pharma market for ever. there will be trade blockade's and black listing. This will hurt for ever. future lo em market vuntado peekutado evariki kavali..ipudu citizens life saving important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, siru said: homeless is india? He has no idea what he's saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, siru said: from my understanding , US gave financial aid to develop vaccines under operation warp speed with a condition that they get first dibs on the vaccines produced. Indian govt didnt give any aid to companies in india. basically they could’ve save more money by giving out aid than paying foreign companies now you are wasting your time by talking to that idiot. He'll repeat what you say, but will declare that that's why you are wrong. dumbest fcuk in this db. First of all, the Indian vaccine makers are fleecing the Indian govt by pricing the vaccines so high. and add to that differential prices to states, and to private sector. The entire thing is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, siru said: from my understanding , US gave financial aid to develop vaccines under operation warp speed with a condition that they get first dibs on the vaccines produced. Indian govt didnt give any aid to companies in india. basically they could’ve save more money by giving out aid than paying foreign companies now USA did give financial aid and set conditions to prioritize. US has research facilities, money power and authority and laws in place already and most importantly political reasons, election year. You cannot ignore the last two reasons. India did not give any aid as no Indian company could not come up with such a pace of vaccine making other than covaxin for which ICMR and NIV supported the move. If India wiling to pay few billion $'s and Indian companies willing to come up with more indigenous versions, Things will be quite different today. Simple ga chepalante, Covishield patent ni phukat la ethukochinatte...and Sputnik kuda anthe, sarkar paisa pettubadi lekunda Sputnik patent kuda ethukochinatte... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: you are wasting your time by talking to that idiot. He'll repeat what you say, but will declare that that's why you are wrong. dumbest fcuk in this db. First of all, the Indian vaccine makers are fleecing the Indian govt by pricing the vaccines so high. and add to that differential prices to states, and to private sector. The entire thing is a mess. there is no hope to reach the vaccination goal. Only a miracle can save us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, siru said: future lo em market vuntado peekutado evariki kavali..ipudu citizens life saving important He's right on this though. India's gonna lose market share in pharma to china with the stupid export ban. but his conclusion that Indian govt's policy on vaccines is ongoing and that people who talk against it are andolan jeevi is a face punch worthy statement. This is how he argues. He agrees with you.. but you shouldn't criticize Indian govt, and just accept that people will die. such a sick fcuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, siru said: future lo em market vuntado peekutado evariki kavali..ipudu citizens life saving important IP blockade pedithe inkemi peekedi ? desham ki kavalsina drugs patents anni vunaya ? antha varaku enduku, remdesivir patents with hold chesthe ? Covid vaccine ki IP rights waiver ivali ani demand chesetollu emana picholla ? SII ki ipatikipudu astra zeneca vadu vadi patents iyanu po dobbey ante, covishield emi kavale ? Laptop mundu kurchoni masthu "demands" cheyochu.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, siru said: there is no hope to reach the vaccination goal. Only a miracle can save us Chill..Things will get better as days progress. 50-60% population will be vaccinated by the end of the year as more and more vaccine makers join the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said: He's right on this though. India's gonna lose market share in pharma to china with the stupid export ban. but his conclusion that Indian govt's policy on vaccines is ongoing and that people who talk against it are andolan jeevi is a face punch worthy statement. This is how he argues. He agrees with you.. but you shouldn't criticize Indian govt, and just accept that people will die. such a sick fcuk. 66% Gujarat 28% Tamil Nadu 12% Rest of India... Gurtu vunaya nee numbers ? iga nuvve cheppali neethulu.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: USA did give financial aid and set conditions to prioritize. US has research facilities, money power and authority and laws in place already and most importantly political reasons, election year. You cannot ignore the last two reasons. India did not give any aid as no Indian company could not come up with such a pace of vaccine making other than covaxin for which ICMR and NIV supported the move. If India wiling to pay few billion $'s and Indian companies willing to come up with more indigenous versions, Things will be quite different today. Simple ga chepalante, Covishield patent ni phukat la ethukochinatte...and Sputnik kuda anthe, sarkar paisa pettubadi lekunda Sputnik patent kuda ethukochinatte... mana situation enti ante we cant even make pfizer or moderna vaccines even if they gave the rights for free. Mrna vaccines manufacture chese technology ne ledu. global Vaccines supply ki guru ani chepukunnaru malla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, siru said: there is no hope to reach the vaccination goal. Only a miracle can save us actually, when the wave recedes by this month, people will forget the entire thing happened, and govt will actually declare victory again, until the next wave hits. but yes, India will never actually ramp up vaccine prodcution to the levels that Chinese have. In three months, they went from nothing to making 3 times what India is making. India, that carefully built up the generic market for 30yrs, is in danger of being overwhelmed by vaccines from China. Right now, even EU is producing way more than India is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: IP blockade pedithe inkemi peekedi ? desham ki kavalsina drugs patents anni vunaya ? antha varaku enduku, remdesivir patents with hold chesthe ? Covid vaccine ki IP rights waiver ivali ani demand chesetollu emana picholla ? SII ki ipatikipudu astra zeneca vadu vadi patents iyanu po dobbey ante, covishield emi kavale ? Laptop mundu kurchoni masthu "demands" cheyochu.. our own covaxin vundi ga..we should make that more. Anyways ipudu ade ekkuva demand vundi india lo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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