jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, siru said: mana situation enti ante we cant even make pfizer or moderna vaccines even if they gave the rights for free. Mrna vaccines manufacture chese technology ne ledu. global Vaccines supply ki guru ani chepukunnaru malla Mari ade kada cheptundi, India may be world's largest vaccine maker but it will not help us at the moment. Need of the hour is the pace at which we make vaccines which unfortunately India isn't' a player yet. Pfizer may not for logistical reasons and as good as ruled out. Pfizer vachi ikada market cheselopu vadikante double vaccine supply chesetodu domestic market lo ne dorkutadu...better to invest in additional production capacity than inviting pfizer or moderna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, siru said: mana situation enti ante we cant even make pfizer or moderna vaccines even if they gave the rights for free. Mrna vaccines manufacture chese technology ne ledu. global Vaccines supply ki guru ani chepukunnaru malla mrna is not that hard. I'm reading up on it. US companies want to prtend like countries like India can't make those 'complicated' vaccines. Its not true. vaccine making is hardly hitech. compared to chip manufacturing for eg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: actually, when the wave recedes by this month, people will forget the entire thing happened, and govt will actually declare victory again, until the next wave hits. but yes, India will never actually ramp up vaccine prodcution to the levels that Chinese have. In three months, they went from nothing to making 3 times what India is making. India, that carefully built up the generic market for 30yrs, is in danger of being overwhelmed by vaccines from China. Right now, even EU is producing way more than India is doing. Modi managed to fcuk up citizens and also future market for our pharma. Its not an easy feat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, siru said: our own covaxin vundi ga..we should make that more. Anyways ipudu ade ekkuva demand vundi india lo. vaadu edho chepthuney untadu sollu.. covaxin ni IP waive cheyyani murderous Indian govt, pakkanodi vaccine ki IP rights aduguthondi. big joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said: Mari ade kada cheptundi, India may be world's largest vaccine maker but it will not help us at the moment. Need of the hour is the pace at which we make vaccines which unfortunately India isn't' a player yet. Pfizer may not for logistical reasons and as good as ruled out. Pfizer vachi ikada market cheselopu vadikante double vaccine supply chesetodu domestic market lo ne dorkutadu...better to invest in additional production capacity than inviting pfizer or moderna. which modi should have done 6 months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, siru said: which modi should have done 6 months ago don't talk about it. Modi won't do this in the next 6 months too. come December, India would be still short on vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: mrna is not that hard. I'm reading up on it. US companies want to prtend like countries like India can't make those 'complicated' vaccines. Its not true. vaccine making is hardly hitech. compared to chip manufacturing for eg. maybe they want to have their own market in india. Covid isnt going to go away anytime. This will be an yearly booster shots going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Raven_Rayes said: don't talk about it. Modi won't do this in the next 6 months too. come December, India would be still short on vaccines. true but i just wish people hold modi and only modi for this biggest fcuk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, siru said: our own covaxin vundi ga..we should make that more. Anyways ipudu ade ekkuva demand vundi india lo. Covaxin ni already two more places la close to 4 crore doses tho ready avutundi...one facility in MH and another in UP. As days progress, vaccine availability also becomes more and vaccinating 50% of the adult population will still be missed by 2-3 months. https://zeenews.india.com/india/bharat-biotech-to-manufacture-2-crore-doses-of-covaxin-at-ups-bulandshahr-plant-every-month-2361586.html https://www.livemint.com/news/india/haffkine-gets-centre-s-nod-to-manufacture-bharat-biotech-s-covaxin-11618558996343.html https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/bombay-hc-allows-use-of-plant-near-pune-to-manufacture-covaxin/articleshow/82555987.cms Bharat Biotech to manufacture 2 crore doses of Covaxin at UP's Bulandshahr plant every month As states face an acute shortage of COVID-19 vaccines, the central government on Wednesday (May 12, 2021) approved the proposal of Bharat Biotech to set up a new plant of Bharat Immunologicals and Biologicals Corporation Limited (BIBCOL) in Uttar Pradesh’s Bulandshahr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: vaadu edho chepthuney untadu sollu.. covaxin ni IP waive cheyyani murderous Indian govt, pakkanodi vaccine ki IP rights aduguthondi. big joke. nee kante yedhava evadanna vuntada asalu ? expecting IP waiver's, ae lokam la vunavo emo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawaani_jaaneman Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, siru said: which modi should have done 6 months ago Yeah, they did. Estimating the need to vaccinate 30 crore population and underestimating an unknown second wave and with freshly gained experience from first wave that 45+ population are vulnerable, oka 30 crore doses saripotayi le anukunaru..muhurtham petti feb la dukanam terchinaru...april lo pelindi..chata chirigi chaapa ayindi..30% population nundi ipudu demand 60% population ayindi.. estimation dobbindi, second wave idichi tannindi...katha taaru maaru ayindi.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, siru said: maybe they want to have their own market in india. Covid isnt going to go away anytime. This will be an yearly booster shots going forward. The only way to combat covid is to create opensource mrna vaccine, that can be reprogrammed for newer mutations, that every manufacturer in the world can be allowed to make. the vaccine cost hardly about 20cents to make inclusive of machinery for it for a billion doses. so countries can work out their markets and invest a few 10s of millions each and get it done. vaccine making is not expensive. Its just buried behind tonnes of IP, and astronomical profits. This pandemic vaccine must be free sourced, and if it increases supply bottlenecks on rawmaterials, that can be taken care too with the right policy. Its just that govts around the world... and especially Indian govt doesn't give a fcuk about people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapchik123 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, siru said: homeless is india? it applies to any person , company , country etc who think they're entitled to a share in others hardwork without putting in any efforts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: The only way to combat covid is to create opensource mrna vaccine, that every manufacturer in the world can be allowed to make. the vaccine cost hardly about 20cents to make inclusive of machinery for it for a billion doses. so countries can work out their markets and invest a few 10s of millions each and get it done. vaccine making is not expensive. Its just buried behind tonnes of IP, and astronomical profits. This pandemic vaccine must be free sourced, and if it increases supply bottlenecks on rawmaterials, that can be taken care too with the right policy. Its just that govts around the world... and especially Indian govt doesn't give a fcuk about people. but what will be the incentive for companies to make it cheaply? Ideally governments should take over the manufacturing of vaccines if they have to be made that cheaply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, rapchik123 said: it applies to any person , company , country etc who think they're entitled to a share in others hardwork without putting in zero efforts lol. so who will these 'hardworking' people do business with when the virus still is roaming around the world? the efforts are put in by scientists.. they are already awarded well.. Moderna, biontech guys are billionaires now. who else should benefit, according to you? the salesmen of these vaccines? how hard is it to sell vaccines in a pandemic? lol. do you call that hardwork? hehe.. did people become hardworkers just by the mere fact of living in the US? weren't they provided the vaccine for free by their govt? why do you think they did it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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