Vakeel saab movie doubt

[Ellen]

8 minutes ago, MRI said:

ishtam vachindi raasesi law cheptundi antey comedy ga vuntundi.. which law says this.. quote the appropriate law..

They haven't reached an agreement on matter of money.. they agreed they accepted payment.. "dabbulu teesukunnam" if I remember the money correctly.. if they revoked consent, which means they are breaking an agreement, they have to prove that they returned the accepted payment..which did not happen.. chesindi chesi taravata convenience batti maata maaristey law vaalla vaipu ayipodu.. specifically in Telugu, there is no where proven that they withdrew consent before the act.. in Hindi, they did.

Nen ikada Telugu movie anduke kadA tittedi. Aah point ni sariga highlight cheyaledani. They shud have highlighted that point Telugu lo unnecessary points meeda ekkuva Concentrate chesi movie antha Penta chesaru. 

[Amrita]

4 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Basic ga oka mindset toh oka 30+ years perginaka.. it is difficult to change people's mindset. The core issue of the movie ne ilanti mindset ni address cheyadam. Adi maaradu light. 

Ikada money teeskuna kani doesn't mean it is equal to consent. Money is just synonymous to many other things as well such as friendly behavior, dressing, being open etc. Ila enni unnai kani it would still be counted as molestation if a guy approaches to her sexually. 

"This point is important in all the subtexts as many cases are built against a woman to show background, previous sexual escapades, etc. These are irrelevant and should NOT be taken into account - including a sex worker - cannot be forced with sex!!

Falak does this in a moment of frustration when she realises the prosecution is trying to humiliate the girls by money money!! So in anger she says yes, We took money but later Minnal withdrew consent - that should still be molestation in the eyes of the law!"

U know...most of the people's curiosity about this matter  in itself explains the basis of this film
Taking or not taking money is not the question here and should not be a parameter in judging the women or judging the act of the men. But the above  thought is exactly what the filmmakers wanted to evoke in the viewer's mind. Ainaa kani we shall empathize with those molesters... So... Em cheyalem don't bother explaining light. 

Yeah Anduke I didn’t want to explain I know it comes to this . Essays essays rase opika kuda ledu . Lite . 

[MRI]

3 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Nen ikada Telugu movie anduke kadA tittedi. Aah point ni sariga highlight cheyaledani. They shud have highlighted that point Telugu lo unnecessary points meeda ekkuva Concentrate chesi movie antha Penta chesaru. 

Even in Pink, the weak defense put them in a compromising position.. if he did not agree to it and argued it was consensual until she flipped, the case would have been strongly in his favor.. women accepted money.. they need to return it to void the deal..

[MRI]

money synonymous anta.. malli quote chesina supposed law wording loney vundi.. a woman can use her body as a business ani.. mentality maaradanta.. rupayiki paniki raanollanta ishtam vachinattu victim role lu aadadam.. verey valladi tappanadam.. ilantollakey Section 375 aney movie teesaru.. daaniki orgasm raadu veellaki.. endukantey adi veella drama laki favorable kaadu kaabatti..

[AppatloBhutto]

7 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Basic ga oka mindset toh oka 30+ years perginaka.. it is difficult to change people's mindset. The core issue of the movie ne ilanti mindset ni address cheyadam. Adi maaradu light. 

Ikada money teeskuna kani doesn't mean it is equal to consent. Money is just synonymous to many other things as well such as friendly behavior, dressing, being open etc. Ila enni unnai kani it would still be counted as molestation if a guy approaches to her sexually. 

"This point is important in all the subtexts as many cases are built against a woman to show background, previous sexual escapades, etc. These are irrelevant and should NOT be taken into account - including a sex worker - cannot be forced with sex!!

Falak does this in a moment of frustration when she realises the prosecution is trying to humiliate the girls by money money!! So in anger she says yes, We took money but later Minnal withdrew consent - that should still be molestation in the eyes of the law!"

U know...most of the people's curiosity about this matter  in itself explains the basis of this film
Taking or not taking money is not the question here and should not be a parameter in judging the women or judging the act of the men. But the above  thought is exactly what the filmmakers wanted to evoke in the viewer's mind. Ainaa kani we shall empathize with those molesters... So... Em cheyalem don't bother explaining light. 

i agree with the idea of the movie - with no consent, no sexual advancements should be made. at the same time, is the movie also promoting the idea that when a women demands money for sexual interest (for whatever the person reason), she is innocent? 

 

 

 

[Ellen]

3 minutes ago, MRI said:

money synonymous anta.. malli quote chesina supposed law wording loney vundi.. a woman can use her body as a business ani.. mentality maaradanta.. rupayiki paniki raanollanta ishtam vachinattu victim role lu aadadam.. verey valladi tappanadam.. ilantollakey Section 375 aney movie teesaru.. daaniki orgasm raadu veellaki.. endukantey adi veella drama laki favorable kaadu kaabatti..

Norundi kada ani istamochinattu pareskoku. 

Asal 375 movie context ki ee movie context ki sambandham emundi ...akada she falsely accused the guy and many did that...valla existence evadu deny chestunadu...false dowry case lu false sexual harrasment case lu vesevallu kuda unnaru...aah thread vesinapudu vallani kuda tidadam...this topic is different... This movie is related to certain women related issues and leave it there. Don't make it about u.

[AppatloBhutto]

1 minute ago, AppatloBhutto said:

i agree with the idea of the movie - with no consent, no sexual advancements should be made. at the same time, is the movie also promoting the idea that when a women demands money for sexual interest (for whatever the person reason), she is innocent? 

 

 

 

if so, does that mean private prostitution is not discouraged ? (oh btw, Indian law does not refer to the practice of selling one's own sexual service as "prostitution" - wiki)

[Ellen]

4 minutes ago, AppatloBhutto said:

i agree with the idea of the movie - with no consent, no sexual advancements should be made. at the same time, is the movie also promoting the idea that when a women demands money for sexual interest (for whatever the person reason), she is innocent? 

 

 

 

I don't remmbr Vakeel saab correctly kani. Original idea ne matladkundam...money for sexual interest anedi asal lene ledu pink lo it was evident that  she only admitted to just move on from this concept. Implying that sare nen prostitute ainakani I withdrew consent annattu ... because Paisaldaru enduku teeskuntaru...except prostitutes? Aina if someone makes a movie on prostitutes and their issues... prostitution promote chesinatta? Idi kuda anthe this movie is about don't question her if she din want to have sex with u and  has every right to call this as molestation if he still proceeded without her consent ani. 

[MRI]

12 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Norundi kada ani istamochinattu pareskoku. 

Asal 375 movie context ki ee movie context ki sambandham emundi ...akada she falsely accused the guy and many did that...valla existence evadu deny chestunadu...false dowry case lu false sexual harrasment case lu vesevallu kuda unnaru...aah thread vesinapudu vallani kuda tidadam...this topic is different... This movie is related to certain women related issues and leave it there. Don't make it about u.

 

57 minutes ago, Ellen said:

Wtf 

norundi kada ani vaagadam modalu pettindi evaro choosuko.. nuvvu naa meeda noru paaresukunnavu.. nenu generic ga oka topic meeda maatladutunna.. nee meeda personal comments cheyaley.. 

 

contexts different ani decide chestunnavu.. mari cinema meeda maatladakunda, social justice arguments enduku chestunnavu? ammayilu dabbulu teesukovachu.. vaalla ishtam.. vaallu no anochu ani.. that took the arguments beyond movies.. section 375 lo choopinchinattu.. ammayilu dabbulu teesukuni padukunnaka repochi court lo nenu vaddannanu antey ayipotunda? daaniki nuvvu support chestunnavu.. nenu kaadu.. sambandham ledanta.. in general, every person has a consent on his/her body.. putting yourself in a compromising position and later arguing that it is others' fault.. applies for all genders on all scenarios, not just molestation..

[AppatloBhutto]

2 minutes ago, Ellen said:

I don't remmbr Vakeel saab correctly kani. Original idea ne matladkundam...money for sexual interest anedi asal lene ledu pink lo it was evident that  she only admitted to just move on from this concept. Implying that sare nen prostitute ainakani I withdrew consent annattu ... because Paisaldaru enduku teeskuntaru...except prostitutes? Aina if someone makes a movie on prostitutes and their issues... prostitution promote chesinatta? Idi kuda anthe this movie is about don't question her if she din want to have sex with u and  has every right to call this as molestation if he still proceeded without her consent ani. 

if someones makes a movie about prostitution, it doesnt mean they are promoting prositution. ayyo ani anukune vallu kuda untaru. i think you only want to restrict your attention to only that part of the movie where women is let go free and shown innocent. i encourage you to also think about the part when the judge has no say/comment on the part of the movie where women admits to demand money, what about that? if no body wants to about that, does that mean that women demanding money for sexual pleasures is nothing wrong? i want to know where in the move it was shown that their actions of demanding money was wrong. 

[Ellen]

11 minutes ago, AppatloBhutto said:

if so, does that mean private prostitution is not discouraged ? (oh btw, Indian law does not refer to the practice of selling one's own sexual service as "prostitution" - wiki)

Private prostitution /prostitution what difference? This topic is out of my scope. I'm really not comfortable discussing about prostitution. It is a very complicated topic. 

May be the movie pink wanted to highlight something like from the movie accused. 

"In 1988, Jodie Foster played a working woman of “questionable character” in the movie The Accused. In that movie, Foster walks into a pub completely drunk and literally falls all over a guy she supposedly finds cute. Her clothes are almost falling off her and after close dancing with him for a few minutes and even kissing him a little, she refuses when he tries to have sex with her right there in the pub. He, of course, forces himself on her in the presence of several witnesses at the bar who cheer him on. However, it is only when we see this promiscuous, flirtatious, drunken woman say no and understand that even then, no means no is the point driven home."

I'm out of this thread. 

[rapchik123]

1 hour ago, geeni83 said:

Anjali court lo cheptadi kadaa maku aa incident jariginappati nundi life happiness ledu bedirimpulu etc..ee case nunchi bayataki vachi normal life lead cheyalani anukuntadi anduke money teskunna ani accept chestadi...( In fact they didn't take money from them..)

seriously ? i must have missed this

[rapchik123]

1 hour ago, AppatloBhutto said:

 

"Okay..okay....okay....okay....okay..okay....memu dabbulu teeskunnam"

"sir, memu dabbulu adigam, memu dabbulu DEMAND chesam. memu dabbulu teeskunnam."

"sir, memu dabbulu teeskunnamu. but, teeskunnaka pallavi manasu marchukundi. vaddu ani cheppindi" .

this is how she ADMITS. 

 

anduke cinema sarigga chudali anedi.

exactly , the movie made it seem like they took the money and nivetha's character backed out of it in the last moment but was forced by the villian character

[Ellen]

17 minutes ago, MRI said:

 

norundi kada ani vaagadam modalu pettindi evaro choosuko.. nuvvu naa meeda noru paaresukunnavu.. nenu generic ga oka topic meeda maatladutunna.. nee meeda personal comments cheyaley.. 

 

contexts different ani decide chestunnavu.. mari cinema meeda maatladakunda, social justice arguments enduku chestunnavu? ammayilu dabbulu teesukovachu.. vaalla ishtam.. vaallu no anochu ani.. that took the arguments beyond movies.. section 375 lo choopinchinattu.. ammayilu dabbulu teesukuni padukunnaka repochi court lo nenu vaddannanu antey ayipotunda? daaniki nuvvu support chestunnavu.. nenu kaadu.. sambandham ledanta.. in general, every person has a consent on his/her body.. putting yourself in a compromising position and later arguing that it is others' fault.. applies for all genders on all scenarios, not just molestation..

Wtf ante personal abuse ah? Let me explain: it's just a very informal way of expressing disbelief. It has nothing to do with u. Seriously dude u write English blogs... I thought you would know some colloquial English. Seriously dude urban slang adi ...check this 

1. An expression of extreme surprise.
2. An expression of extreme annoyment or frustration, usually after a recent chain of bad events has just been added to by something that just happened.
3. A more emphatic form of "what".
4. Roughly translates to, "I tire of considering this decision and will go ahead and do what I was thinking of doing originally." Synonymous with it.

1. What the **? Why is there a car in my driveway?
2. What the **?! Why does this always happen?
3. What the is that?
4. Maybe I shouldn't steal this car... Eh, what the **.

Anduke neetoh free ga vaadanu. Rupayiki paniki raani vallu ani u highlighted what I posted anduke aah retort. 

Bhayya avanni cinemalo points ..social justice endi? Aah cinemalo em cheparo Ade highlight chesa 

Also let me highlight for one last time and I won't repeat it again :

IF A WOMAN SLEEPS WITH A GUY... CONSENSUS TONI... SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO DENY IT LATER. I STRONGLY OPPOSE FALSE SEXUAL HARRASMENT CASES. SHE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO MAKE FALSE COMPLAINTS. BUT IF SHE DOESNT WANT TO SLEEP...HE HAS NO RIGHT TO ADVANCE FURTHER. 

but ikada issue adi kaadu... Movie em convey chesindi matrame matladinam...she din want to sleep she opposed anthe. Ededo divert enduku chestunnav

 

 

[Ellen]

Sollu cinema I don't care about it. Screw it.