China ki bad time start ayyindi.. lol.

[Raven_Rayes]

their biggest success stories - the tech companies meedha full scale crackdown.

only manufacturing technologies and surveillance tech (for the govt) meedha maatramey focus anta.

so China has lost even before it started to challenge the US. China.

brainless pakodis.

[Raven_Rayes]

anyway baidu is a joke compared to google, weibo is a joke compared to facebook ani ee nirnayam teeskunnara CCP gaallu?

[NiranjanGaaru]

in ur dreams ra pichi pakodi, they are witchhunting tech companies, in order to take over them by CCP(Chinese communist party) and expand them all over the world

Yes manufacturing costs increased but at the same time, they also increased in East Asian countries and india too..... So china is still manufacturing hub, MADE in China brand estharu assemble chesi in East Asian countries..... 

[Raven_Rayes]

3 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

in ur dreams ra pichi pakodi, they are witchhunting tech companies, in order to take over them by CCP(Chinese communist party) and expand them all over the world

Yes manufacturing costs increased but at the same time, they also increased in East Asian countries and india too..... So china is still manufacturing hub, MADE in China brand estharu assemble chesi in East Asian countries..... 

orey take over tech companies entra? most Chinese unicorn companies are infact funded by shady companies that receive money from CCP project kickbacks. malli kothaga takeover enti..

in fact, they shed their stake in these tech companies, andukey free fall of chinese tech.

China ki bad time start ra. raasi pettuko.

[Raven_Rayes]

14 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said:

in ur dreams ra pichi pakodi, they are witchhunting tech companies, in order to take over them by CCP(Chinese communist party) and expand them all over the world

Yes manufacturing costs increased but at the same time, they also increased in East Asian countries and india too..... So china is still manufacturing hub, MADE in China brand estharu assemble chesi in East Asian countries..... 

chinese debt funded growth seems to have hit its limit. the RoI on investments in 'tech' seem to not be paying off.

so they want to invest real tech, not 'tech'. hehe.. tech like material sciences, and for military, not for social media emo.

[Ryzen_renoir]

20 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

their biggest success stories - the tech companies meedha full scale crackdown.

only manufacturing technologies and surveillance tech (for the govt) meedha maatramey focus anta.

so China has lost even before it started to challenge the US. China.

brainless pakodis.

Idk what your sources are , they are only cracking down on companies whose promoters tried to do politics like jack ma

It's extremely common even in western countries to go after companies that are closely associated with opposition parties 

They are world leaders in telecom equipment , mobile innovation , drone tech  solar cell manufacturing, EV battery tech. 

China is the only other country other than usa to have their own indigenously drveloped microprocessor 

China is investing more in R&D than even america , almost 250 times more than india. 

Nothing can stop their ascedance as a economic super power , the foundations were set long back before xi jinping was even president .

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

10 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

chinese debt funded growth seems to have hit its limit. the RoI on investments in 'tech' seem to not be paying off.

so they want to invest real tech, not 'tech'. hehe.. tech like material sciences, and for military, not for social media emo.

 

Most of the debt is domestic and easily managed .China is still outgrowing india while being five times bigger , no signs of slowing down at all 

From this day , By the time india reaches 5 trillion dollar economy , china would add more than 5 trillion to their economy . I wouldn't be surprised if they add 10 trillion $

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Ryzen_renoir said:

Idk what your sources are , they are only cracking down on companies whose promoters tried to do politics like jack ma

It's extremely common even in western countries to go after companies that are closely associated with opposition parties 

They are world leaders in telecom equipment , mobile innovation , drone tech  solar cell manufacturing, EV battery tech. 

China is the only other country other than usa to have their own indigenously drveloped microprocessor 

China is investing more in R&D than even america , almost 250 times more than india. 

Nothing can stop their ascedance as a economic super power , the foundations were set long back before xi jinping was even president .

 

They are not cracking down only on promoters like Jack Ma, but also of Tencent Holdings Mua Huateng who's a CCP sympathiser. They are cracking on all social media companies.

I don't know what 'indigenously developed microprocessor' means. The biggest platform company in RISC processors is ARM Holdings, a british company now held by SoftBank and Nvidia. Then there are other platform processors like Qualcomm, whose independent offerings are only a fraction of the processors they sell that are based on ARM.

Last I heard, Chinese attempts to create a local processor didn't pan out well, with about $20b of Shenzhen municipal govt's money down the drain. Its never going to succeed because developing the thousand different parts of the microprocessor means using IP from other companies, something that they can be easily denied if they refuse to share back IP.

All these outsized chinese investments in R&D counts for nothing, if it is China vs the World.

I think China is done for. It has hit its limit. Sure, it will still become a world power based on its sheer size. But never a tech mecca, like the US is.

[Raven_Rayes]

9 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

 

Most of the debt is domestic and easily managed .China is still outgrowing india while being five times bigger , no signs of slowing down at all 

From this day , By the time india reaches 5 trillion dollar economy , china would add more than 5 trillion to their economy . I wouldn't be surprised if they add 10 trillion $

India is not even in the picture. I'm only talking of US vs China.

unless white nationalists continue to dominate the discourse in the US and restrict immigration, China is never catching up. Not that democrats are that much pro immigration, to be honest.

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

 

Most of the debt is domestic and easily managed .China is still outgrowing india while being five times bigger , no signs of slowing down at all 

From this day , By the time india reaches 5 trillion dollar economy , china would add more than 5 trillion to their economy . I wouldn't be surprised if they add 10 trillion $

india's debt is also mostly domestic. India is just extremely conservative and puts insane limits on spending... like upto 3% of its GDP.

yeah India has a negative trade balance. hehe..

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

They are not cracking down only on promoters like Jack Ma, but also of Tencent Holdings Mua Huateng who's a CCP sympathiser. They are cracking on all social media companies.

I don't know what 'indigenously developed microprocessor' means. The biggest platform company in RISC processors is ARM Holdings, a british company now held by SoftBank and Nvidia. Then there are other platform processors like Qualcomm, whose independent offerings are only a fraction of the processors they sell that are based on ARM.

Last I heard, Chinese attempts to create a local processor didn't pan out well, with about $20b of Shenzhen municipal govt's money down the drain. Its never going to succeed because developing the thousand different parts of the microprocessor means using IP from other companies, something that they can be easily denied if they refuse to share back IP.

All these outsized chinese investments in R&D counts for nothing, if it is China vs the World.

I think China is done for. It has hit its limit. Sure, it will still become a world power based on its sheer size. But never a tech mecca, like the US is.

Ofcourse it cannot beat US in this century in tech & military but in every other field it is doing much better. 

US has this added advantage of attracting talent from all over the world , it will only take one or two  "hard on immigration" administrations to lose that advantage 

For china internal  social order is paramount and they will do anything to keep it under ccp control .

The thing is china doesn't need any outside help anymore since they have 1.5 Billion pool of  empowered talent to work with 

[Raven_Rayes]

3 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Ofcourse it cannot beat US in this century in tech & military but in every other field it is doing much better. 

US has this added advantage of attracting talent from all over the world , it will only take one or two  "hard on immigration" administrations to lose that advantage 

For china internal  social order is paramount and they will do anything to keep it under ccp control .

The thing is china doesn't need any outside help anymore since they have 1.5 Billion pool of  empowered talent to work with 

I'm saying Chinese are going for more centralization, and are therefore going to lose a lot of momentum with their tech.

This will likely start a new wave of talent migrating out of China to the west for better opportunities.

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I'm saying Chinese are going for more centralization, and are therefore going to lose a lot of momentum with their tech.

This will likely start a new wave of talent migrating out of China to the west for better opportunities.

 

You are just wrong Chinese startup funding is the highest it has ever been.  They are only cracking down on select group of companies that are not pro xi jinping 

Nothing of loss will come to them from few companies going down , hell I have heard thousands of Japanese , Taiwanese, korean talent are being hired by mainland Chinese companies 

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Ofcourse it cannot beat US in this century in tech & military but in every other field it is doing much better. 

US has this added advantage of attracting talent from all over the world , it will only take one or two  "hard on immigration" administrations to lose that advantage 

For china internal  social order is paramount and they will do anything to keep it under ccp control .

The thing is china doesn't need any outside help anymore since they have 1.5 Billion pool of  empowered talent to work with 

Hi-Tech is a collaborative game, Chinese insistence on it being some sort of super power in that game will only be laughed at by the incumbents.

R&D is an even more collaborative game. Something China might find increasingly tough to do if it isolates itself from the world.

I think its better decade to be Indian than Chinese. If only you can cancel out the fascist sanghi and soft conservative sanghi upper caste noise in your midst in Indian upper caste social circles. Truly despicable human beings most of them.

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

You are just wrong Chinese startup funding is the highest it has ever been.  They are only cracking down on select group of companies that are not pro xi jinping 

Nothing of loss will come to them from few companies going down , hell I have heard thousands of Japanese , Taiwanese, korean talent are being hired by mainland Chinese companies 

dude Tencent CEO is not anti Xi. Most of the Chinese funding to startups is what is being cut with the new CCP policy. The trend of these startups are going to change in the next couple years.

it will affect all social media startups. And will only benefit those that work on surveillance tech, or some other military industrial tech. Rest all, pretty much gone.