Asalu online ticketing pedtey movie industry ki better ga

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

bookmyshow is only a service faciliatory kada, vadu service charges vasool chestadu and vadu kuda GST kattukovali kada...tax withold chesthe, Doesn't it make complicated for BMS to operate ?

yes. vaadi service ki separate tax.. malli movie tickets ki tax. rendu vaadey kattesthey easy.

6 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

from what I heard was the proposal was to create a market place for movie tickets, an umbrella where all exhibitors will have to list their show timings and tickets and everyone who purchases tickets or sells tickets have to happen through this ...even the tickets that are sold at theatre counter need to go through this ticketing portal and all the amount collected minus service charges will be remitted to exhibitor the next business day. There is no involvement of government in  payment part.

so an API layer in the ticketing UI, so govt can track the number of tickets sold and their rates. hmmm..

collecting indirect taxes is too hard, especially at the last point of sale. movie exhibitors can easily skip the taxes.

12 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

This proposal was mooted by the producers and distributors, who claim its tough to collect money from exhibitors and the difference in actual ticket sales and reported ticket sales can be avoided.

yeah, this is obvious. lots of producers and distributors cry about 50% of the theatres not being transparent about ticket collections. That's why its funny when people bring up the bs argument that Govt won't pay distributors on time. They are already not being paid on time. lol. this is supposed to make it better. I agree.

[Raven_Rayes]

Jagan is working on making tax collection more efficient and easy. its good.

he should have calculated loss to govt ranging at 1000cr on state GST on movie ticket sales.

[nuvvu_naakina_paalem]

14 hours ago, chandrabhai7 said:

Madyalo vallu dabbul dobeyaleru like theater vallu. Appudu real market Enti mana hero’s di telustadi

Rey munda online tickets gurinchi kadhu dngindhi.

 

Ticket prices tagginchi releases restrictions peduthunnar ani

[Sword_KanthaRao]

23 minutes ago, nuvvu_naakina_paalem said:

Rey munda online tickets gurinchi kadhu dngindhi.

 

Ticket prices tagginchi releases restrictions peduthunnar ani

Ticket price evadu tagginchindu ? evadu tagginchaledu...infact slightly penchinaru.

Its never about ticket price, its all about first week ticket prices. Exhibitors want to charge more and premium money for first week and they want control of ticket prices...iyalrepu 1 week kante ekuva cinemalu ae adutalevu, one week price fix theatre owners ki isthe, inkendi chesedi ? 

Aina, for movies which are nor produced in Andhra, why should Government be so supportive ? 

[nuvvu_naakina_paalem]

6 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

Ticket price evadu tagginchindu ? evadu tagginchaledu...infact slightly penchinaru.

Its never about ticket price, its all about first week ticket prices. Exhibitors want to charge more and premium money for first week and they want control of ticket prices...iyalrepu 1 week kante ekuva cinemalu ae adutalevu, one week price fix theatre owners ki isthe, inkendi chesedi ? 

Aina, for movies which are nor produced in Andhra, why should Government be so supportive ? 

Sales tax and derivative economy kosam.

 

Okadu premium pay chesi movie ki pothe, petrol, parking, theater employees, food stalls all related services involved. 

Kattu baanisa la unnav. Ne parents ye state lo living?

[Sword_KanthaRao]

39 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

yes. vaadi service ki separate tax.. malli movie tickets ki tax. rendu vaadey kattesthey easy.

BMS vadu not just ticket sale, he offers ticketing software system to theatre owners, this is where he makes money, This is like a subcription where theatre owner pays BMS for software. Ticketing is just an additional revenue source for BMS and not all theatres have this software, some still do traditional paper tickets. So, not an efficient system. B and C centers lo veedi reach as good as nil. So collecting taxes and remitting to treasury might make BMS tough to operate, deviating from core business and additional security and regulations will come into place. 

 

42 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

so an API layer in the ticketing UI, so govt can track the number of tickets sold and their rates. hmmm..

collecting indirect taxes is too hard, especially at the last point of sale. movie exhibitors can easily skip the taxes

Yes, that's exactly what the proposal is. Andhra Pradesh has 90% theatres in B and C centers which are notorious in evading taxes and reporting ticket sales. Not just in AP but in entire country, B and C centers are like this. Some theatres report only one show per day even though they run all four shows. After digital screening, this has come down but ticket sales and numbers cannot be tracked down.

 

45 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

yeah, this is obvious. lots of producers and distributors cry about 50% of the theatres not being transparent about ticket collections. That's why its funny when people bring up the bs argument that Govt won't pay distributors on time. They are already not being paid on time. lol. this is supposed to make it better. I agree.

Apart from this, big producers and production houses don't pay and deal with cash anymore including Geeta Arts, Suresh Productions, Dil Raju, etc don't pay in cash anymore. They all do white payments. But collection from B and C centers is always in cash and black, unaccounted. The frequent tax raids is actually because of these receipts. So big producers have been backing online ticket sales for transparency for quite some time. Its going to change the way movies are exhibited but over a period of time, transparency and less hassle in managing theates will help these guys organize the industry. 

[Sword_KanthaRao]

2 minutes ago, nuvvu_naakina_paalem said:

Sales tax and derivative economy kosam.

 

Okadu premium pay chesi movie ki pothe, petrol, parking, theater employees, food stalls all related services involved. 

Kattu baanisa la unnav. Ne parents ye state lo living?

Bedaru, PK adedo inclusive economy ani...wealth creation ani annadu...

baaga inspire ayinatu vunnav..

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Sword_KanthaRao said:

BMS vadu not just ticket sale, he offers ticketing software system to theatre owners, this is where he makes money, This is like a subcription where theatre owner pays BMS for software. Ticketing is just an additional revenue source for BMS and not all theatres have this software, some still do traditional paper tickets. So, not an efficient system. B and C centers lo veedi reach as good as nil. So collecting taxes and remitting to treasury might make BMS tough to operate, deviating from core business and additional security and regulations will come into place. 

yeah, I misspoke. I thought BMS provides a payment gateway, but I just checked they use 3rd party payment gateways according the client's tickets they are selling on their app. Now their business model seems funny, since they have to wait for the client to pay them their commission on the sales.

2 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

Yes, that's exactly what the proposal is. Andhra Pradesh has 90% theatres in B and C centers which are notorious in evading taxes and reporting ticket sales. Not just in AP but in entire country, B and C centers are like this. Some theatres report only one show per day even though they run all four shows. After digital screening, this has come down but ticket sales and numbers cannot be tracked down.

yep. I agree. its a good move.

[Sword_KanthaRao]

22 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

yeah, I misspoke. I thought BMS provides a payment gateway, but I just checked they use 3rd party payment gateways according the client's tickets they are selling on their app. Now their business model seems funny, since they have to wait for the client to pay them their commission on the sales.

yep. I agree. its a good move.

The proposal appears to be good. This is where politics come into play. Jagan's ego and TDP's financial strength. Movie and entertainment is a cash business and TDP supporters dominate this area. 

Jagan is hell bent on blocking TDP's financial muscle. and the people who have a problem with this are trying to spread false rumor's like Govt will not give the money back, they will mortgage payments to secure loans etc. 

[Raven_Rayes]

3 minutes ago, Sword_KanthaRao said:

The proposal appears to be good. This is where politics come into play. Jagan's ego and TDP's financial strength. Movie and entertainment is a cash business and TDP supporters dominate this area. 

Jagan is hell bent on blocking TDP's financial muscle. and the people who have a problem with this are trying to spread false rumor's like Govt will not give the money back, they will mortgage payments to secure loans etc. 

lol.

[jalsa01]

Asala Govt ki endhuku ivvale vay online perutho.. ela loose iste repu kirana shops lo kuda online payments ani involve avochu maaa tax cut chesi meeku istam ani.. Tax evasion unte pattukoni fine veyale gani nene sales business chesta anudendi..

 

Ee public medha prema Medical/Education medha unte bavundedhi..  public ki aa bills tho problem kaani entertainment istam unnodu chustadu lenodu vadilestadu..

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, jalsa01 said:

Asala Govt ki endhuku ivvale vay online perutho.. ela loose iste repu kirana shops lo kuda online payments ani involve avochu maaa tax cut chesi meeku istam ani.. Tax evasion unte pattukoni fine veyale gani nene sales business chesta anudendi..

 

Ee public medha prema Medical/Education medha unte bavundedhi..  public ki aa bills tho problem kaani entertainment istam unnodu chustadu lenodu vadilestadu..

govt ammatle anta. They are just trying to find the best way to regulate the business. This is just like Farm Laws anuko, except the stakes are very low in this case, since its just entertainment business.

looks like govt wants to do it purely to make tax collection more efficient. public meedha prema antha bs. every state should do this. and I think they will, after Jagan pilots this and it becomes successful.

Tax evasion pattukovataaniki resources prathi saari vaadaali, its waste of time.

medical/education is a totally different market. Govt can create insurance/vouchers to tackle that. one thing at a time. first let govt plug its leaks in sources of revenue. this move can add atleast 500cr to ap govt treasury. I think Tollywood market is around 13000cr.

[Sword_KanthaRao]

2 hours ago, jalsa01 said:

Asala Govt ki endhuku ivvale vay online perutho.. ela loose iste repu kirana shops lo kuda online payments ani involve avochu maaa tax cut chesi meeku istam ani.. Tax evasion unte pattukoni fine veyale gani nene sales business chesta anudendi..

 

Ee public medha prema Medical/Education medha unte bavundedhi..  public ki aa bills tho problem kaani entertainment istam unnodu chustadu lenodu vadilestadu..

Ettetta ?

 

[nokia123]

19 hours ago, chandrabhai7 said:

Madyalo vallu dabbul dobeyaleru like theater vallu. Appudu real market Enti mana hero’s di telustadi

Govt ki emi avasaram baa heros real market gurinchi? Thelusukoni emi peekutharu? Inka vere pani ledha CM ki? Indhukena cm ayyindhi 

Film industry middleman cuts is no govt responsibility , panikocche pani cheyyocchu gaa govt like laying roads , maintaining law and order, providing more jobs , state revenue development …ivanni vadhilesi film industry middleman cuts and hero’s real market meedha focusing and you guys supporting .. jaggad Idhi chesthu koorchunte…paina cheppinavi govt cheyyalsina activities cinema hero’s chesthara?