100 years for Moplah Hindu Genocide

[Ryzen_renoir]

4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Doesnt matter - history is never pleasant. So you are siding with british tax collectors - brahmins/nairs - against farmers because they did not put on their best behaviour when unspeakable violence was unleashed on them ? shows your morals.

Orey babu when did I support any side ,

They were right in uprising against Britishers and tax collectors .

They were wrong to impose sharia and ensuing violence /oppresion on other Hindus 

[Ryzen_renoir]

3 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

if this not truth then there is no truth in this world

 

Even Dr. B.R. Ambedkar has provided a detailed account on the rebellion in Pakistan or The Parition of India’ (Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, Writings and Speeches, Volume 8, P.163), and it isn’t a glowing one.  

 

“Beginning with the year 1920 there occurred in that year in Malabar what is known as the Mopla Rebellion. It was the result of the agitation carried out by two Muslim organisations, the Khuddam-i-Kaba (servants of the Mecca Shrine) and the Central Khilafat Committee,” Ambedkar wrote.

 

“Agitators actually preached the doctrine that India under the British Government was Dar-ul-Harab and that the Muslims must fight against it and if they could not, they must carry out the alternative principle of Hijrat. The Moplas were suddenly carried off their feet by this agitation. The outbreak was essentially a rebellion against the British government. The aim was to establish the kingdom of Islam by overthrowing the British government.”

 

Dr. Ambedkar further noted that the forces behind the rebellion declared Khilafat kingdoms.

 

“As a rebellion against the British Government it was quite understandable. But what baffled most was the treatment accorded by the Moplas to the Hindus of Malabar,” he wrote.

 

“The Hindus were visited by a dire fate at the hands of the Moplas. Massacres, forcible conversions, desecration of temples, foul outrages upon women, such as ripping open pregnant women, pillage, arson and destruction— in short, all the accompaniments of brutal and unrestrained barbarism, were perpetrated freely by the Moplas upon the Hindus until such time as troops could be hurried to the task of restoring order through a difficult and extensive tract of the country.

 

“This was not a Hindu-Moslem riot. This was just a Bartholomew. The number of Hindus who were killed, wounded or converted, is not known. But the number must have been enormous.” 

[Raven_Rayes]

Its not just Moplah, peasant rebellion under the british constantly took communal and religious fervour. For eg. Santhal rebellion against the Bengal Presidency and its muslim zamindars in 1855,  and in 1930s Jitu Santal, a Hindu convert, who rebelled against zamindars in Bengal, forced his community to abandon their culture and help him take over a historical mosque to implement his own brand of Hindu nationalist rule.

vandemataram, the national song, that is picked from a bengali fiction is also about the failed sanyasi rebellion against the British with overt religious war cries against the oppressor. Religion has been at the forefront of rebellion in the Indian subcontinent for a long time.

Its no secret almost all Indian freedom fighters in the INC are Hindu nationalists.

now to pick Moplah, after 100yrs to try and blame one particular side is disingenuous.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Ryzen_renoir said:

Orey babu when did I support any side ,

They were right in uprising against Britishers and tax collectors .

They were wrong to impose sharia and ensuing violence /oppresion on other Hindus 

You are equivocating. There will be ensuing violence but that doesnt define them. What one must remeber in Malabar is how the hindu caste system - brahmins/nairs - joined hands with British and robbed farmers 75-80% of their labor year aftger year after year.  And your point is that  these suffering farmers did not follow geneva conventions and killed agaisnt the rules ? really?

And why is this being pushed now in 2021. Why are malabar farmers being demonized in year 2021 by RSS? am i to beleive you are THAT innocent not seeing the game ?

 

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Its not just Moplah, peasant rebellion under the british constantly took communal and religious fervour. For eg. Santhal rebellion against the Bengal Presidency and its muslim zamindars in 1855,  and in 1930s Jitu Santal, a Hindu convert, who rebelled against zamindars in Bengal, forced his community to abandon their culture and help him take over a historical mosque to implement his own brand of Hindu nationalist rule.

vandemataram, the national song, that is picked from a bengali fiction is also about the failed sanyasi rebellion against the British with overt religious war cries against the oppressor. Religion has been at the forefront of rebellion in the Indian subcontinent for a long time.

Its no secret almost all Indian freedom fighters in the INC are Hindu nationalists.

now to pick Moplah, after 100yrs to try and blame one particular side is disingenuous.

"Indian" nationalists like you are hindu nationalists. Moplahs arent - they just used islam and some inspiration it provided - but their fight is against injustice. But indian nationalists had a design to continue caste hierarchy.

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Orey babu when did I support any side ,

They were right in uprising against Britishers and tax collectors .

They were wrong to impose sharia and ensuing violence /oppresion on other Hindus 

the way moplah rebellion is being framed is terrible. especially because BJP is in power.

If such a thing happened in the last couple decades, sure lets talk about it.

[futureofandhra]

31 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Even Dr. B.R. Ambedkar has provided a detailed account on the rebellion in Pakistan or The Parition of India’ (Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, Writings and Speeches, Volume 8, P.163), and it isn’t a glowing one.  

 

“Beginning with the year 1920 there occurred in that year in Malabar what is known as the Mopla Rebellion. It was the result of the agitation carried out by two Muslim organisations, the Khuddam-i-Kaba (servants of the Mecca Shrine) and the Central Khilafat Committee,” Ambedkar wrote.

 

“Agitators actually preached the doctrine that India under the British Government was Dar-ul-Harab and that the Muslims must fight against it and if they could not, they must carry out the alternative principle of Hijrat. The Moplas were suddenly carried off their feet by this agitation. The outbreak was essentially a rebellion against the British government. The aim was to establish the kingdom of Islam by overthrowing the British government.”

 

Dr. Ambedkar further noted that the forces behind the rebellion declared Khilafat kingdoms.

 

“As a rebellion against the British Government it was quite understandable. But what baffled most was the treatment accorded by the Moplas to the Hindus of Malabar,” he wrote.

 

“The Hindus were visited by a dire fate at the hands of the Moplas. Massacres, forcible conversions, desecration of temples, foul outrages upon women, such as ripping open pregnant women, pillage, arson and destruction— in short, all the accompaniments of brutal and unrestrained barbarism, were perpetrated freely by the Moplas upon the Hindus until such time as troops could be hurried to the task of restoring order through a difficult and extensive tract of the country.

 

“This was not a Hindu-Moslem riot. This was just a Bartholomew. The number of Hindus who were killed, wounded or converted, is not known. But the number must have been enormous.” 

i donot have pbm whhen law is common to all 

just bcoz of some religion law shud not be different

1 nation 1 law

[Ryzen_renoir]

16 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

i donot have pbm whhen law is common to all 

just bcoz of some religion law shud not be different

1 nation 1 law

One nation one sharia 

[JackSeal]

1 hour ago, JustChill_Mama said:

 

What about Brahmin provoked genocide and atrocities on Hindu Dalits over centuries?

[DummyVariable]

1 hour ago, JustChill_Mama said:

 

Even Nizam and Hyderabad state supported Turkey. Razakars ni create chesindi kooda to rape and convert Hindus. 

[KingMaker215]

Good Post...read about this massacre few years ago. Pains my heart to know that Ganduji ignored and belittled hindus and made fun of this whole incident.. only submissive slave hindus think gandu is father of nation

[KingMaker215]

8 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Even Nizam and Hyderabad state supported Turkey. Razakars ni create chesindi kooda to rape and convert Hindus. 

about 70-80% of south muslims are converted hindus even they themselves know it

[KingMaker215]

Just now, KingMaker215 said:

about 70-80% of south muslims are converted hindus even they themselves know it

even muslims who now live in punjab region of pakistan are converted from hinduism

[aakalibabayya]

3 hours ago, JustChill_Mama said:

[Telugodura456]

5 hours ago, JustChill_Mama said:

It is not pure accident that Yogi talks about protecting geography and not people. FOr delhi and its feudal goons india is nothing but a real estate they control and profit from. They openly encourage fights between natives who live here - malabar muslims vs kerala hindus, telangana vs andhra, assam vs bengalis. And sometimes they even come up to dig things happened a century later.

And when fights happen we have the "liberal" feudals like @Raven_Rayes swoop in and blame these people as "ethno scum" and further work for delhi. Build detention centers for them and blame the locals for it.