Easy to spot a right winger. ela ante..

[Kreole_]

15 minutes ago, james_pond said:

communism is more about communism than having left ideology. em chaduvkunnav

ABCD lu sir.

[Kreole_]

11 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

cheppina kadha, communists are part of the modern left. They are the same as right. but with different goals.

still there are leftists that fought against Soviet, like Nestor Makhno. right's aim to fight is always to create another prison to hold people. Left's idea is to release people from that prison.

 

It s not enough to just to subscribe to an ideology, any way ppl rarely stick to it. 

[james_pond]

9 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

communism is  left ideology. but practice is different.

in practice, the rule was not able to achieve non-hierarchical fungible institutions.

leftists dissociated themselves from communist thinking by 90s, and were exploring alternate localized models.

there are still a lot of communists today. They are as rigid as the capitalists they fight against. over similar outdated models of governance.

ade cheppindi. matallo undedhi chethallo mingesindi. 

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Kreole_ said:

It s not enough to just to subscribe to an ideology, any way ppl rarely stick to it. 

its not about subscribing to anything. you don't have to follow any ideology.

just follow your instinct, and try to have empathy for fellow humans. these are just models to give us an idea of what is possible. that's all.

the right's mental models are pure power mongering, stuck in a rut kinda bs, while left's models are way more hopeful. both are illusions, since reality cannot be modeled that easily.

even right cannot create and sustain a kind of prison forever. eventually someone will do them, what they did to others (in governance i mean). There's no escaping that.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

10 minutes ago, Kreole_ said:

It s not enough to just to subscribe to an ideology, any way ppl rarely stick to it. 

may be my use of right and left is wrong. Its not that clearly defined.

I'm talking about nationalist, religion thumping, racist, ethnonationalist, casteist group. But there are leftists in those groups too. they don't advertise their presence there as much as the right does.

[Raven_Rayes]

23 minutes ago, Kreole_ said:

It s not enough to just to subscribe to an ideology, any way ppl rarely stick to it. 

right's claim that humans have no other way than to participate in this survival of the fittest game(whatever that crap is) is very sad.

all this while benefitting from a leftist idea of democracy that was born out of the french revolution.

if the right had their way, humans would still be living in caves. may be. but they pretend like they are torchbearers of freedom and liberty.

it is the left that is imagining alternatives. although, atleast in the case of bitcoin, the right completely owned it. thankfully bitcoin turned out to be a dud.

 

[Telugodura456]

17 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

almost andaru anthey. including me.

it requires a lot of wisdom to step back and analyze reality and act in a way that respects both our individual autonomy and carries the group (whatever the group is) forward.

plus it also requires empathy for fellow humans. which none of the rightwingers have.

Its either their way or the highway. power over consensus. They create illusions to attain this power. one such is pulka illusion, the other modi illusion, India illusion, hindu illusion. 1000 such illusions.

some like you are conscious active willing participants, for a number of reasons.

 elitist scum. Making everything look overly complex. obsessed with themselves and their usually third grade "analysis".  I never see this fellow coming out against anyone other than kostha people. 

[BAVA_BERRY]

16 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

 elitist scum. Making everything look overly complex. obsessed with themselves and their usually third grade "analysis".  I never see this fellow coming out against anyone other than kostha people. 

ethno nationalist pulka scum thinks telugu unity equals to one community being in pwr 

[Telugodura456]

23 minutes ago, BAVA_BERRY said:

ethno nationalist pulka scum thinks telugu unity equals to one community being in pwr 

one community in pwr anedhi nee paronia - and your entire life revolves under that paronia - you dont do anything to the community but keep dividing the state and making dora as cm.

[Raven_Rayes]

4 hours ago, BAVA_BERRY said:

ethno nationalist pulka scum thinks telugu unity equals to one community being in pwr 

No. Even if he is okay with other communities sharing power for the sake of telugu unity, he will be ethnonationalist scum.

For achieving that useless/dangerous unity, he'll be okay with casteist pride ( he won't encourage it, but he won't take them on too), he'll be okay with killing 'outsiders' if it is useful to keep  telugus together (he won't encourage it, but he won't take them on too)

He will invent false histories to take pride on his ethnic group. He doesn't understand what kind of mob hate that kind of history revision produces over generations, and he doesn't care.

He will consider those telugus that want to be left alone as enemies of telugu (like how he's trying to do right now, including his characterization of tg). 

__________

All this is in the ideal scenario for ethnonationalist. Realistically these people are no better than roadside rowdies, lacking any kind of critical thinking skills, and lashing out at anyone who they think is smarter than they are 

Ofcourse if Telugodura is just a pulka, trying too hard to sound as Telugu nationalist, then everything said above doesn't apply. 

But if he's actually trying to use telugu to achieve political unity, and not broad understanding and cooperation and cultural renaissance between telugus outside of politics, then he's on the way to becoming a fcuking disgusting monster like Modi. 

If he's just using telugu to keep pulkas at the top, he's stupid. And less dangerous.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

3 hours ago, BAVA_BERRY said:

ethno nationalist pulka scum thinks telugu unity equals to one community being in pwr 

Telugodura is a right winger, without a doubt. That's why he's reacting like the idiot he is. 

The only good thing is, telugu (Andhra) people largely won't accept his narrative of their history. So he gets to say that his ideas are natural and perfect and doesn't have to live through the times when his dreams come true. Because they will not come true within his lifetime.

He just hates his future grandkids enough to poison the cultural atmosphere in such a way that could affect them in future. 

 

 

[Raven_Rayes]

Antha pedda telugu nationalist vi aithe, dha india forum lo velli aruvu. Nenu kooda vachi neeku support chesta. Aadukundaam Indians ni 

Telugu unity ani specific telugollu meedha aravaku yebrasi nayala

 

[Raven_Rayes]

Bhakt edhavalu kooda same. Bharatiya goppatanam gurinchi bharatiyula meedha aravatam tappa emi raadhu.

Tellodini chooste automatic ga bending

[BAVA_BERRY]

12 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

one community in pwr anedhi nee paronia - and your entire life revolves under that paronia - you dont do anything to the community but keep dividing the state and making dora as cm.

[Telugodura456]

14 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

No. Even if he is okay with other communities sharing power for the sake of telugu unity, he will be ethnonationalist scum.

For achieving that useless/dangerous unity, he'll be okay with casteist pride ( he won't encourage it, but he won't take them on too), he'll be okay with killing 'outsiders' if it is useful to keep  telugus together (he won't encourage it, but he won't take them on too)

He will invent false histories to take pride on his ethnic group. He doesn't understand what kind of mob hate that kind of history revision produces over generations, and he doesn't care.

He will consider those telugus that want to be left alone as enemies of telugu (like how he's trying to do right now, including his characterization of tg). 

__________

All this is in the ideal scenario for ethnonationalist. Realistically these people are no better than roadside rowdies, lacking any kind of critical thinking skills, and lashing out at anyone who they think is smarter than they are 

Ofcourse if Telugodura is just a pulka, trying too hard to sound as Telugu nationalist, then everything said above doesn't apply. 

But if he's actually trying to use telugu to achieve political unity, and not broad understanding and cooperation and cultural renaissance between telugus outside of politics, then he's on the way to becoming a fcuking disgusting monster like Modi. 

If he's just using telugu to keep pulkas at the top, he's stupid. And less dangerous.

 

Rey dishonest elitist scum. The only guy who is Ok with murdering people is YOU here. Even in assm-bengal discussion i said those assamese who killed are condemn worthy, But you never got the courage to admit India which is greatest killer in north east/kashmir and in general greatest killer of indians is condemn worthy. You just evaded it.

IN moplah discussion too you equivocated about use of r eligion by moplahs but never said a word about brahmin.nair landlords who created it.

You think you are too smart but your are a bloodthirsty cretin 100 times worse than a hardcore bhakth like @NiranjanGaaru because you will murder to look good.

You consistly provide alibis for exploiters and murderers and act even straightforward situation as "complex". Very similiar to thella racists who keep saying there are two sides to everything despite some nalla guy getting choked to death and recorded live on video.

At the same time when it comes to blaming andhras its very straightforward for you because your andhra family is racist - every one is racist and ALL  of andhra midle class is complicity. THOO - disgusting cretin. There will be a special place in Hell for you.

Telugu unity impose endhira lamdike. Telugu language gives a readymade facility for governance which is logical. THose who oppose need to justify. And there are NONE. even TG is a telugu state.