More hunger in india (rank 101) than pakistan (92) and bangladesh (76)

[DummyVariable]

4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Utlimately these small guys are consumers of what those corporates manufacture. What can they buy if they are out of work ?

They are not going to buy anything. Hand it out to them. They will work if they get bored.

[Telugodura456]

15 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

They are not going to buy anything. Hand it out to them. They will work if they get bored.

good luck getting corproates to produce when they know theere are no buyers.

[Raven_Rayes]

12 minutes ago, DalchanChekka said:

read about fairtrade. Farmers have more control over what they produce. 

Sounds interesting but not sure what percentage of food  in the market is through fair trade. I suspect miniscule.

Ultimately a lot of agri products are subsidized. The question is whether you subsidize small farmers or big corporations is the decision govts take 

One is not necessarily better than the other 

To create a functioning fair market with 1000s of participants is literally one of the hardest math problems to solve. So govts either act as buyer of last resort (like India) or give up the entire food chain to few corporations (like Europe) 

 

 

 

[Raven_Rayes]

19 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

They are not going to buy anything. Hand it out to them. They will work if they get bored.

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[Raven_Rayes]

21 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

I would rather not have people go hungry than satisfy the ego of few people. 

No one is going hungry because of lack of production. The hunger index for india has a lot to do with distribution issues. 

And more people will likely go hungry if food production is allowed to be monopolised by corporates

[DummyVariable]

11 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

good luck getting corproates to produce when they know theere are no buyers.

The govt will pay the corporates.

People will take it for free. 

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Profit

[DummyVariable]

9 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

No one is going hungry because of lack of production. The hunger index for india has a lot to do with distribution issues. 

And more people will likely go hungry if food production is allowed to be monopolised by corporates

Most of the losses occur during harvest and harvest handling. Distribution loss is only small part of it.

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

The govt will pay the corporates.

People will take it for free. 

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Profit

govt can pay farmers too and farmers are producing enough. It seems you solving a provlem that doesnt exist - lack of production.

[DummyVariable]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

govt can pay farmers too and farmers are producing enough. It seems you solving a provlem that doesnt exist - lack of production.

They are only selling part of what they produce. Samething as less production.

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Most of the losses occur during harvest and harvest handling. Distribution loss is only small part of it.

 

It's not distribution loss that is the problem. The problem is lack of distribution infrastructure. Farmers throwing their produce in the roads is what? Harvest loss?  

 

[Telugodura456]

12 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

They are only selling part of what they produce. Samething as less production.

what do you think they are doing with the rest ? just burning it ?

[Telugodura456]

16 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Most of the losses occur during harvest and harvest handling. Distribution loss is only small part of it.

no - production is counted after harvest not before.

[DummyVariable]

3 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

what do you think they are doing with the rest ? just burning it ?

What do you think happens during threshing and winnowing?

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, DummyVariable said:

What do you think happens during threshing and winnowing?

Dude all that is taken in to account while calculating the grain production. Grain production means grains produced. All these losses are accounted for. Why do you keep saying there is not enough production ? have you ever seen empty shops in india ?

[DummyVariable]

12 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Dude all that is taken in to account while calculating the grain production. Grain production means grains produced. All these losses are accounted for. Why do you keep saying there is not enough production ? have you ever seen empty shops in india ?

Are you serious? These two activities alone account for more than 15% losses in grain. Storage by these small farmers is another big problem. Most of the calculations on production are based on average values. By the time it reaches the distribution systems 30-40% is lost.