Amaravati lo Basic infrastructure (Roads, Current & drinage) ki 1 Lakh crores kavaali ! ! !

[Telugodura456]

sustainibility of amaravati

https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/pt/650051486971245674/pdf/Environmental-and-Social-Management-Framework.pdf

[Ryzen_renoir]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Yes - self sustaining, Yes - capital city - i dont know what you mean by financial decision.

Excellent

If it is self sustaining then why do you need govt money other than for administrative buildings ?  CRDA should be made independent body and it can raise the finances itself right ? 

Let me rephrase the second question 

Is capital city for only for administrative use or is it meant to be the economic engine of the state ? 

If it's not just for administrative purposes then are you supporting Jagan's 3 capitals plan because it meant to be economic engine ? 

[Ryzen_renoir]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

sustainibility of amaravati

https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/pt/650051486971245674/pdf/Environmental-and-Social-Management-Framework.pdf

Environmental and social factors 

Nowhere in the report has addressed the financing and economic return of the project 

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Excellent

If it is self sustaining then why do you need govt money other than for administrative buildings ?  CRDA should be made independent body and it can raise the finances itself right ? 

Let me rephrase the second question 

Is capital city for only for administrative use or is it meant to be the economic engine of the state ? 

If it's not just for administrative purposes then are you supporting Jagan's 3 capitals plan because it meant to be economic engine ? 

I think you are confusing self sustaining with magic. Anything would need handholding during initial state.

its meant for both - administrative and economic engine.

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

I think you are confusing self sustaining with magic. Anything would need handholding during initial state.

its meant for both - administrative and economic engine.

If it is an economic engine , then you are supporting Jagan Anna ideas of distribution of capital meant to correct any regional imbalances? 

State govt part of expenditure 10-15k crores isthey chaalu kadha ? That's more than the market value of the all the land in 2014 

So oka 10k crores isthey self sustaining avuthundha ? 

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Environmental and social factors 

Nowhere in the report has addressed the financing and economic return of the project 

Why would world bank even consider if its not sustainable.

What does sustainable mean to you ? indian govt runs a fiscal deficit, trade deficit and a negative net international investment position. And runs on huge debt. is india sustainable ? 

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

If it is an economic engine , then you are supporting Jagan Anna ideas of distribution of capital meant to correct any regional imbalances? 

who will oppose if someone says he can remove imbalances and develop three capitals ? can he do it? has he done it? its been three years now - what does it look like.

[Ryzen_renoir]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Why would world bank even consider if its not sustainable.

What does sustainable mean to you ? indian govt runs a fiscal deficit, trade deficit and a negative net international investment position. And runs on huge debt. is india sustainable ? 

Self sustaining means the city will not need hand outs from govt like all other cities in AP including vijaywada , Guntur

Are vijaywada , Guntur people asking for handouts  ? Can they survive without any state/central govt funds ? Yes 

India endhukey ikkada , don't sidetrack

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Self sustaining means the city will not need hand outs from govt like all other cities in AP including vijaywada , Guntur

Are vijaywada , Guntur people asking for handouts  ? Can they survive without any state/central govt funds ? Yes 

India endhukey ikkada , don't sidetrack

Are you seriously saying vijayawada and guntur corporations earn all the income they need to run their cities ? are you mad or what.

Even GHMC runs a deficit of 10% to run itself. Only a crazy fellow would want a city to make profit.

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

who will oppose if someone says he can remove imbalances and develop three capitals ? can he do it? has he done it? its been three years now - what does it look like.

Can , will , shall are all theoretical questions . Just like amaravathi

3 capitals bill never came into fruition kadha ,  court stay order lo undhi 

If a capital is meant to be an economic engine , then you are supporting for 3 capitals kadha ? 

[Ryzen_renoir]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Are you seriously saying vijayawada and guntur corporations earn all the income they need to run their cities ? are you mad or what.

Even GHMC runs a deficit of 10% to run itself. Only a crazy fellow would want a city to make profit.

They make more than enough to maintain infra , they may need some handholding for new infra projects but only few hundred crores over several years

Can you compile on what the state govt of AP has spent on vijaywada or vizag in the last 70 years ? 

[Telugodura456]

2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Can , will , shall are all theoretical questions . Just like amaravathi

3 capitals bill never came into fruition kadha ,  court stay order lo undhi 

If a capital is meant to be an economic engine , then you are supporting for 3 capitals kadha ? 

If amaravathi is theoretical the three capitals is atleast as much theoretical. Try asking a practical question then.

[Telugodura456]

5 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

They make more than enough to maintain infra , they may need some handholding for new infra projects but only few hundred crores over several years

Can you compile on what the state govt of AP has spent on vijaywada or vizag in the last 70 years ? 

GHMC is already running a 600 crore deficit - so your few hundred crores over several years is a simple lie. This is financed by state government. Most cities can barely manage their infrastructure without state govt or delhi schemes. Thats common knowledge. Why dont you get the data.

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

If amaravathi is theoretical the three capitals is atleast as much theoretical. Try asking a practical question then.

That's exactly the reason why they shouldn't exist , both 3 capitals and amaravathi mega city are equally unstable options for a state which is already in troubles 

Make amaravathi the only capital meant for administration of the state. Return excess land back to farmers , compensate for the few thousand acres used up 

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

That's exactly the reason why they shouldn't exist , both 3 capitals and amaravathi mega city are equally unstable options for a state which is already in troubles 

Make amaravathi the only capital meant for administration of the state. Return excess land back to farmers , compensate for the few thousand acres used up 

By your logic - hyderabad shouldnt exist, india shouldnt exist, vizag shouldnt exist.