1 million cases per day na, anavasaram ga maa trump thatha covid ni mishandled ani odincharu kadara

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, naranjaX said:

But this is going to effect not just his candidature but his chances the whole of dem fraternity in 2024

a lot of projection. just like how everybody was saying Trump is gonna win a second time, until that loser lost by 6 mil votes. lol.

sure Dems may lose 2024 seats too, along with 2022. so?

do you want them to join the republicans and implement their agenda? do you understand how politics work? Dem votebank is not you, even if you are a citizen.

[Raven_Rayes]

India lo BJP supporters antha Congress ki free advice (which is actually bigoted sh1t) istharu ga..

same adhey laaney Republican leaning assholes antha Dems ki free advice ichesthunnaru. haha..

Dems kooda Republicans laaga aithey, mee bathuku bus stand ani basic sense kooda ledhu chaala mandhi ki.

there are simply not enough pro corporate dem/repub to form a strong coalition against racists. be careful what you wish for. low tax kosam kakkurthi padi unnadhi pothadi. lol.

[naranjaX]

3 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

a lot of projection. just like how everybody was saying Trump is gonna win a second time, until that loser lost by 6 mil votes. lol.

sure Dems may lose 2024 seats too, along with 2022. so?

do you want them to join the republicans and implement their agenda? do you understand how politics work? Dem votebank is not you, even if you are a citizen.

Projections are always an indicator of what might be upcoming and also not only showcases the current sentiment of people but sometimes has influence on people's future sentiments as well which is why the politicians also care about these projections and approval ratings 

I am not saying they should join Republicans and implement all of their agenda but based on how things have unfolded in 2021 a general person's perspective would be that dems first year in the office was not good and they will have a lot of ground to cover for people to start believing again ... especially more important for swing states

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, naranjaX said:

Projections are always an indicator of what might be upcoming and also not only showcases the current sentiment of people but sometimes has influence on people's future sentiments as well which is why the politicians also care about these projections and approval ratings 

I am not saying they should join Republicans and implement all of their agenda but based on how things have unfolded in 2021 a general person's perspective would be that dems first year in the office was not good and they will have a lot of ground to cover for people to start believing again ... especially more important for swing states

I think US economy was super until the last 2 months. It bears out in consumer confidence surveys too.

is there something else that matters to the electorate? I think dems are doing an okay job, since they have to manage both capitalists and progressives on their side.

do you prefer the racists taking over?

[Telugodura456]

11 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

bochhu ley. as if he has a clue about what he's saying. lol.

he was riding the anti dem wave. look where that got him.

US economy is pretty good now. consumer confidence at all time high before omicron. Trump is a loser who can't lead his party. He doesn't have an agenda beyond following his alt right crowd like a dog chasing a car.

if he had any clue about what should've been done, he would have won 2020. Dems were themselves piss poor in marketing Biden. but atleast Biden has a comprehensive plan on what he wants to do.

Trump also used to rant about economy when people were dying now this biden minion is doing the same. whats the difference ?

Biden was elected to "shut down the virus". Now people cant even schedule tests, at home tests are out of stock - assal em chesaadu one year la ? just pathetically begging "get vaccinated" which is something trump made. Why couldnt he ramp up production of tests atleast ?

[naranjaX]

22 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I think US economy was super until the last 2 months. It bears out in consumer confidence surveys too.

is there something else that matters to the electorate? I think dems are doing an okay job, since they have to manage both capitalists and progressives on their side.

do you prefer the racists taking over?

IMO the reason the economy grew pretty well last year was due in part to the recovery happened under Trump 

Also, the GDP growth for US has been less than several countries including India for 2021... also the job growth numbers that dems have trumpeted is based on a low benchmark from April 2020 when unemployment was highest since 1930s 

In terms of worker wage rates as well the wages have not grown as much as the cost of living which is also a problem that they have to address 

[Raven_Rayes]

4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Trump also used to rant about economy when people were dying now this biden minion is doing the same. whats the difference ?

Biden was elected to "shut down the virus". Now people cant even schedule tests, at home tests are out of stock - assal em chesaadu one year la ? just pathetically begging "get vaccinated" which is something trump made. Why couldnt he ramp up production of tests atleast ?

Trump didn't 'make' the vaccine. lol. that bugger pretty much can't even write the full form of mRNA without spelling mistakes.

Biden can't 'shut down the virus' if close to 40% refuse to take the vaccine.

both hospitalization and death numbers seem to affect the unvaccinated the most. So it makes sense to push the vaccine more than anything else. Unless you have data that proves that vaccinated people and unvaccinated are hospitalized at the same rate, which is not the case atleast for NewYork numbers until mid December.

Sure federal govt bears some of the responsibility for the turnaround time for the tests, but it seems hospitals and universities have been able to turn up testing fast enough, but it's the private labs that haven't been able to keep up. So may be its the free market which is struggling to keep up pace. I don't know enough anyway.

 

 

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, naranjaX said:

IMO the reason the economy grew pretty well last year was due in part to the recovery happened under Trump 

Also, the GDP growth for US has been less than several countries including India for 2021... also the job growth numbers that dems have trumpeted is based on a low benchmark from April 2020 when unemployment was highest since 1930s 

In terms of worker wage rates as well the wages have not grown as much as the cost of living which is also a problem that they have to address 

What recovery under Trump? It was already growing under Obama. Trump simply ratcheted up the debt to insane levels and showed marginal improvement in growth. Trump may have killed the economy if he was elected again.

do you remember the tariff war that hurt farmers and basically increased trade deficit with China?

Trump was a fcuking moron. His tenure oversaw drop in immigration levels for the first time in decades in the US. This despite him claiming that economy under him was super. its just insane.

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

47 minutes ago, naranjaX said:

Projections are always an indicator of what might be upcoming and also not only showcases the current sentiment of people but sometimes has influence on people's future sentiments as well which is why the politicians also care about these projections and approval ratings 

I am not saying they should join Republicans and implement all of their agenda but based on how things have unfolded in 2021 a general person's perspective would be that dems first year in the office was not good and they will have a lot of ground to cover for people to start believing again ... especially more important for swing states

Yes Biden is a victim of the current timeline  , many of the issues right now were set in motion long ago like inflation , oil prices , covid  , debts , etc 

Claiming that he was going to solve covid a year I to his presidency was the most foolish promise 

[Telugodura456]

13 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Trump didn't 'make' the vaccine. lol. that bugger pretty much can't even write the full form of mRNA without spelling mistakes.

Biden can't 'shut down the virus' if close to 40% refuse to take the vaccine.

both hospitalization and death numbers seem to affect the unvaccinated the most. So it makes sense to push the vaccine more than anything else. Unless you have data that proves that vaccinated people and unvaccinated are hospitalized at the same rate, which is not the case atleast for NewYork numbers until mid December.

Sure federal govt bears some of the responsibility for the turnaround time for the tests, but it seems hospitals and universities have been able to turn up testing fast enough, but it's the private labs that haven't been able to keep up. So may be its the free market which is struggling to keep up pace. I don't know enough anyway.

 

 

yes 40% wont listen to him and he has not enough credibility or moral authority to change them and nor has the guts to use punitive measures to get around that. then why the boast "shut down the virus" - did he not know this before ?

it is not just turnaround time - the tests themselves are not there. There is no manufacturing capacity. Under Biden watch in April may they shut down the only manufacturing facility making tests by destroying stock. Walmart and others arep rice rationing by jacking up costs by 50%.

[Telugodura456]

And yes trump made the vaccine. he started operation warptime - gave $15 billion dollar free seed money to companies and got the $hit done. Modi gave Zero to covaxin other than prepayment for some orders. If Biden was there he would pretend he can make the vaccine and then get bog down in some bureacratic red tape.

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

yes 40% wont listen to him and he has not enough credibility or moral authority to change them and nor has the guts to use punitive measures to get around that. then why the boast "shut down the virus" - did he not know this before ?

it is not just turnaround time - the tests themselves are not there. There is no manufacturing capacity. Under Biden watch in April may they shut down the only manufacturing facility making tests by destroying stock. Walmart and others arep rice rationing by jacking up costs by 50%.

you can't convince racists. or ethnonationalist scum like the ones that are against Biden. There are some who have genuine reason for not taking the vaccine, and can be reached out and allowed to remain unvaccinated even, but the ones who are spreading antivaxx are just pure anti social scum. what do you suggest Biden do? you know federal govt can't mandate vaccines, right?

yeah, Biden failed to ramp up testing. there are several areas where the fed govt has failed to get going in the months running up to omicron, and it will take some time to fix them. Doubt anyone else at the helm could've done better. problems with centralization of power.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

9 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

And yes trump made the vaccine. he started operation warptime - gave $15 billion dollar free seed money to companies and got the $hit done. Modi gave Zero to covaxin other than prepayment for some orders. If Biden was there he would pretend he can make the vaccine and then get bog down in some bureacratic red tape.

any president at the time would've okayed this. Trump didn't make the vaccine. Its childish of him to claim it, and pedantic of you to repeat it here.

Biden got US out of Afghan.  Something Trump promised, but couldn't because he was too worried about pissing the wrong people. lol.

[Raven_Rayes]

16 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

he has not enough credibility or moral authority

racists, conspiracy theorists don't listen to reason. don't respect consensus. actively try to derail society to impose their agenda.

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

you can't convince racists. or ethnonationalist scum like the ones that are against Biden. There are some who have genuine reason for not taking the vaccine, and can be reached out and allowed to remain unvaccinated even, but the ones who are spreading antivaxx are just pure anti social scum. what do you suggest Biden do? you know federal govt can't mandate vaccines, right?

yeah, Biden failed to ramp up testing. there are several areas where the fed govt has failed to get going in the months running up to omicron, and it will take some time to fix them. Doubt anyone else at the helm could've done better. problems with centralization of power.

 

They are racists and nationalists in other countries too and they are taking vaccine. Plenty of racists took vaccine. As president he has immense tools to use to get around the problem. Ofcourse it wont be easy - its a job to do. He campaigned that he will get it done.

Tests is the easiest area to attack as all it needs is few manufacturing plants and just monitor them.There too no results.