Veeramachhaneni gaadini entha baaga thittadu..

[Raven_Rayes]

29 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

I agree but people are slowly looking for alternative medicine options anna, adi ovadu chesado long term.imoacts entire ovadiki teliyadu but people struck with IR , diabetes obese for them evo results kanapadthunayi chala mandhi better chesukunaru and they are happy,  many workers construction, driving etc used to junk food body antha chetta ayyi metformin,  insulin tissukoni tisukoni visugu etthi they are looking for other options and strangely it's working for them reddit and many articles lo

VrK uncle doctors ni tospadesi mataldedi wrong no doubt and he claims he invented something adi kuda wrong just he spread awareness

nuvvu insulin teeskuney vaadiva before shifting to keto?

docs andariki insulin prescribe chesthunnara? if that is true, then its a scam and should be investigated and docs be sent to jail.

anthey gaani eedenti keto thintey diabetics pothundha? vegan diet thinna kooda pothundi ani nenu claim chesta. same vaadi logic tho nay. vegan lo whole foods aey thinaali ani.

It might even work for a large number of people. so?

mostly they follow keto/veera diet coz people love to eat meat anukunta. but they should also be conscious of the dangers of eating too much meat.

 

[csrcsr]

Just now, Raven_Rayes said:

nuvvu insulin teeskuney vaadiva before shifting to keto?

 

Not me bro nenu kaadu maa cousin he stated with metformin,  insulin shots aina ku eye loki kuda vacchi edo injection iche valu , he stopped and shifted strictly for 3 months motram reversed , two years ninchi he is back to normal diet non keto but little healthy every quarter check chepstunadu h1cabc levels all normal he is so happy , ala chala mandhi unaru 

Just it's helping them with quick fix

I know few people who misused again malli perugutunayi

[Raven_Rayes]

13 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Not me bro nenu kaadu maa cousin he stated with metformin,  insulin shots aina ku eye loki kuda vacchi edo injection iche valu , he stopped and shifted strictly for 3 months motram reversed , two years ninchi he is back to normal diet non keto but little healthy every quarter check chepstunadu h1cabc levels all normal he is so happy , ala chala mandhi unaru 

Just it's helping them with quick fix

I know few people who misused again malli perugutunayi

annayya that's what I don't understand. your cousin replaced insulin with this diet aa? or he stopped taking insulin after his sugar level stabilized, after following this diet aa?

because I refuse to believe that docs don't ask you to eat healthily. They may not plan your diet for you. That's not their job.

[csrcsr]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

annayya that's what I don't understand. your cousin replaced insulin with this diet aa? or he stopped taking insulin after his sugar level stabilized, after following this diet aa?

because I refuse to believe that docs don't ask you to eat healthily. They may not plan your diet for you. That's not their job.

Yes I was surprised even doctor was surprised no insulin no met formi

[Raven_Rayes]

2 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Yes I was surprised even doctor was surprised no insulin no met formi

low carb keto diets in type 1 and 2 diabetes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6566854/

conclusion:

Reducing carb intake with an LCD (low carb diet) is effective in reducing body weight and, in patients with type 2 diabetes, improving glycemic control, with a stronger effect with a very low carb diet (KD). However, LCD and KD may not be appropriate for all individuals. Especially in patients with type 2 diabetes, it is necessary to balance the potential increase in cardiovascular risk because of the unfavorable lipid profile observed with KD with the benefits deriving from weight loss and improvement of glycemic control. Moreover, long-term compliance with low-CHO diets is still an issue.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

32 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Not me bro nenu kaadu maa cousin he stated with metformin,  insulin shots aina ku eye loki kuda vacchi edo injection iche valu , he stopped and shifted strictly for 3 months motram reversed , two years ninchi he is back to normal diet non keto but little healthy every quarter check chepstunadu h1cabc levels all normal he is so happy , ala chala mandhi unaru 

eye drops anta. another way of getting insulin anthey. mostly insulin won't be prescribed for type 2 diabetes anta ley uncle.

another study of keto

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7641470/

conclusion:

The ketogenic diet showed a significant improvement in glycemic control in all studies included in this review and demonstrated a significantly improved lipid profile, including an increase in high-density lipoprotein as compared to control. Although the heterogeneity of the studies cannot be ignored, this review shows clearly that the ketogenic diet, although high in fat by definition, showed a significant and important lipid profile control coupled with weight loss and effective glycemic control. This is consistent with the effect seen in individual studies and confirmed in the aggregate effect estimate. It is, therefore, the recommendation of this review that the ketogenic diet be considered as a therapeutic intervention for diabetic patients along with medications.

[csrcsr]

11 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

eye drops anta. another way of getting insulin anthey. mostly insulin won't be prescribed for type 2 diabetes anta ley uncle.

another study of keto

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7641470/

conclusion:

The ketogenic diet showed a significant improvement in glycemic control in all studies included in this review and demonstrated a significantly improved lipid profile, including an increase in high-density lipoprotein as compared to control. Although the heterogeneity of the studies cannot be ignored, this review shows clearly that the ketogenic diet, although high in fat by definition, showed a significant and important lipid profile control coupled with weight loss and effective glycemic control. This is consistent with the effect seen in individual studies and confirmed in the aggregate effect estimate. It is, therefore, the recommendation of this review that the ketogenic diet be considered as a therapeutic intervention for diabetic patients along with medications.

Ade cheptuna for short term they are able to reverse completely out of medicine and some  people following healthy diet after that are able to have it in control , mundhe ninche ir lekunte healthy habits unte no issues , but it's giving people a quick fix and most of them are happy about it

If u see marketing many major shops lo already keto ki special section its getting popular and popular keto restaurants kuda vachesayi let's see where it goes

[Raven_Rayes]

17 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Ade cheptuna for short term they are able to reverse completely out of medicine and some  people following healthy diet after that are able to have it in control , mundhe ninche ir lekunte healthy habits unte no issues , but it's giving people a quick fix and most of them are happy about it

If u see marketing many major shops lo already keto ki special section its getting popular and popular keto restaurants kuda vachesayi let's see where it goes

its not just keto.. all low carb diets like atkins diet, paleo diet give the same result.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

30 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Ade cheptuna for short term they are able to reverse completely out of medicine and some  people following healthy diet after that are able to have it in control , mundhe ninche ir lekunte healthy habits unte no issues , but it's giving people a quick fix and most of them are happy about it

If u see marketing many major shops lo already keto ki special section its getting popular and popular keto restaurants kuda vachesayi let's see where it goes

all the studies I posted above are not talking specifically about keto diets. Just low carb diets.

Keto diets have been used for kids suffering from cerebral epilepsy as therapy for decades now, long term effects are hypertriglyceridemia, hypercholesterolemia, osteopenia, iron deficiency anemia. but ofcourse effects on adults have not been observed, and keto diets used on these children are extremely restrictive, like only 10g of carbs per day level.

there are also high carb, low fat, low protein plant based diets that are proposed to cure type 1 diabetes too.. like here masteringdiabetes.org

 

[Raven_Rayes]

52 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Ade cheptuna for short term they are able to reverse completely out of medicine and some  people following healthy diet after that are able to have it in control , mundhe ninche ir lekunte healthy habits unte no issues , but it's giving people a quick fix and most of them are happy about it

If u see marketing many major shops lo already keto ki special section its getting popular and popular keto restaurants kuda vachesayi let's see where it goes

Lot of people feel like they are misled by science, govt, doctors or whatever into pushing them to eat in a certain way. and one day they suddenly discover this magic that allows them to lose 30kgs and also cure their type 2 diabetes.  Its like a revelation in their life.

some of these people develop complications from this diet in the later years, and then they have to contend with the fact that the diet that cured them of diabetes put them into a different problem. most likely increased risk of coronary disease from all that saturated fat they are eating.