Where soviets failed economically

[Dabbakai]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

first caste thiyyi. dont put cart before horse.

caste teyadaniki emundii anna; caste gurinchii inter daka evadu pattichukodu eamcet ninchi start avadii reservations and caste muchata 

[futureofandhra]

12 minutes ago, Spartan said:

single party rule teddam mana desham lo kuda..appudu vastadi..

appati varaku waste muchata idanta...ayye pani kaadu.

it wonot work in india

demography different n chinese r not happy in their country

[Spartan]

Just now, futureofandhra said:

it wonot work in india

demography different n chinese r not happy in their country

adendanna ala antav..China lo janalu sukha shantulu...siri sampadalato vardhillutunnar ani Telugodra antunte...

 

  

11 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

ee freedom of expression ilantivi pakkana pedithe, naaku economic exploitation aithe yem kanapadatledhu ba. Infact as communists they are workers party. They never had the poverty like slums or people not having enough clothes even in 70s when they were very poor.

And now they look decently wealthy - not america standards but pretty decent.

 

[Spartan]

4 minutes ago, Dabbakai said:

caste teyadaniki emundii anna; caste gurinchii inter daka evadu pattichukodu eamcet ninchi start avadii reservations and caste muchata 

caste reservations guriche matladite...malli caste teyyi antadu... anna...

• reservation is the benefit..
• caste is the identity...

renditiki teda undi...

[galiraju]

21 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

No ba. Chinese did not collectivize ancient industry like farmers - they let farmers operate like independent businessmen - despite the fact the land was owned by state. They used to distribute the land to farmers and then farmer is his own boss. This created some competition and bought some market energy to economy.

Soviets collectivized even basic things like farming also. It is possible to be excited by science when working on a govt salary but who will grow wheat or rice on standard salary - they got away doing as less as they can - leading to food shortages.

also, Chinese five year plans are solid though.   I collect their stamps. All those stamps tells us a story. Started off with physical exercises, empowering women, industries, coal etc from 1950-80 a tremendous development.

[Telugodura456]

uyghurs are not even 1 percent of population. akka turaq extremism problem undhi kaani genocide em ledhu ba - thats jsut propoganda. but caste effecting almost 100 percent indians.

[Dabbakai]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

caste reservations guriche matladite...malli caste teyyi antadu... anna...

• reservation is the benefit..
• caste is the identity...

renditiki teda undi...

sare teseddam; 

freebies gurinchii kuda cheppali dora anna 

[galiraju]

One important thing I noticed is, there is communist cultural revolution in china...where we can see the previous culture more or less was replaced by communist thought. India lo kooda ilanti revlution vachi castes ani thudichi pettukoni pothey kaani we can move forward. it may not happen in India i guess.

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, galiraju said:

One important thing I noticed is, there is communist cultural revolution in china...where we can see the previous culture more or less was replaced by communist thought. India lo kooda ilanti revlution vachi castes ani thudichi pettukoni pothey kaani we can move forward. it may not happen in India i guess.

very well put bro. social reform ravali whether it is through communism or anything. kontha mandhi communism anti-national antar- are chinese not patrioritc? adhantha sodhi. First a egalatarian society.

[galiraju]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

uyghurs are not even 1 percent of population. akka turaq extremism problem undhi kaani genocide em ledhu ba - thats jsut propoganda. but caste effecting almost 100 percent indians.

LOL. However, their population was categorically replaced though. They started with 89% in the northwest region now it is only 40%. China took over the region and now it is one of the most surveilled region in the world too. Also, regular Chinese are encouraged to settle there and have marital relations with the locals. 

[Spartan]

Just now, galiraju said:

LOL. However, their population was categorically replaced though. They started with 89% in the northwest region now it is only 40%. China took over the region and now it is one of the most surveilled region in the world too. Also, regular Chinese are encouraged to settle there and have marital relations with the locals. 

monna fake report submit chesaru Jan lo chinki gallu..

showing that Uyghur pop rose by 20% since 2010 ani..

but actual supression started in 2017...

a lekkal cheppandra ante..no its against our policy annaru...

2017-2020 varaku..valla birth rates mottam control chesi dobbaru....ethinicity wipe out

[galiraju]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

very well put bro. social reform ravali whether it is through communism or anything. kontha mandhi communism anti-national antar- are chinese not patrioritc? adhantha sodhi. First a egalatarian society.

It would if everyone wants. However, India being a democracy, implies that majority wants to live the way they live and politicians want to uphold the status-quo. They know If they try to ruffle the feathers, ruling class will loose all.

[galiraju]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

monna fake report submit chesaru Jan lo chinki gallu..

showing that Uyghur pop rose by 20% since 2010 ani..

but actual supression started in 2017...

a lekkal cheppandra ante..no its against our policy annaru...

2017-2020 varaku..valla birth rates mottam control chesi dobbaru....ethinicity wipe out

It might have risen, idk. But it may be more or less mixed. As the Chinese men encouraged to sleep with Uyghur women. Also, Jagananna voluteer padakam akkada kooda undi, where regular chinese are assigned to a household and they stay in the Uyghur families and sleep with them too.

[galiraju]

44 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

THe recent destruction of an-225 - the largest plane ever built in the world - bought focus to the awesome industrial might of soviet union. The plane was built in 1985.

Soviets sent the first man to space, first animal to space, first inter planetary travel, invented many medicines, had advanced military stuff - then how they failed ?

And all of this was done by simple govt employees receiving standard salary.

One explanation is that this model  - while worked beautifully in advanced stuff - failed badly in basic stuff like making 100 varieties of cola or ensuring enough wheat and meat in grocery stores.

Chinese used to be shocked when visiting soviet professors use to take large bottles of coca cola with them when they were leaving.

Unfortunately soviets then did not realize that these are easy stuff and can be fixed easily with some reform like chinese did.

Let me tell one important thing though. USSR,  Russia, and India are very good at math. So, the fundamental science development was great. However, we missed the applied research train. Soviets kinda caught the train, however, their manufacturing was plagued with quality control issues. Also, with WWI and WWII and after effects (cold war) rendered the USSR with no money and finally split in early 1990s. The USA with operation paper clip caught the express research train.

[Dabbakai]

24 minutes ago, galiraju said:

Let me tell one important thing though. USSR,  Russia, and India are very good at math. So, the fundamental science development was great. However, we missed the applied research train. Soviets kinda caught the train, however, their manufacturing was plagued with quality control issues. Also, with WWI and WWII and after effects (cold war) rendered the USSR with no money and finally split in early 1990s. The USA with operation paper clip caught the express research train.

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