Coal Shortage: Is India Staring At Another Power Crisis?

[Android_Halwa]

18 minutes ago, manadonga said:

Exo ni pichha anadam 

even tg lo kuda power cuts vunnayi konchem takkuva next month viswaroopam antunaru all over india wide 

Oka pani chey...next month vishwaroopam time lo vachi TG situation chudu. Coal supplies, grid stabilization, power purchases and installed capacities ni improve cheyadam etc lanti strong steps teesukunaru last 8 years la which is paying off now. 

TG lo kuda power cuts vunayi...kani power holidays levu, hours together cuts levu..peak hours la three phase supply to agri is stopped but single phase still coming along...

I'll be waiting for the vishwaroopam. India andhakaram la munigina roju kuda telangana la deepam velugutune vuntadi.

[manadonga]

3 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Oka pani chey...next month vishwaroopam time lo vachi TG situation chudu. Coal supplies, grid stabilization, power purchases and installed capacities ni improve cheyadam etc lanti strong steps teesukunaru last 8 years la which is paying off now. 

TG lo kuda power cuts vunayi...kani power holidays levu, hours together cuts levu..peak hours la three phase supply to agri is stopped but single phase still coming along...

I'll be waiting for the vishwaroopam. India andhakaram la munigina roju kuda telangana la deepam velugutune vuntadi.

Akkarledu ippude vundi next month varaku akkarledu 

[Android_Halwa]

Just now, manadonga said:

Akkarledu ippude vundi next month varaku akkarledu 

igo kaka..desham la jharkhand, chattisgarh, bengal tarvata next coal supplies assurance vunadi Telangana ke...and TG Govt owns 51% of Singareni and decisions will be in favour of TG.

TG lo power cuts peak hours la villages to balance the load...1pm-6pm madhyalo industries and commercial consumers ki as usual power supply with no cuts, ie time lo load shedding kosam agri and rural lo power cuts...evening tarvata no power cuts.

[krishnaaa]

26 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

That’s what I am saying … here and there few homes power distribution system can support … but widespread our existing infra cannot handle and this approach still in research phase.

No batteries needed aa ?

without battery support solar power is highly fluctuating and battery bank is needed to smoothen it… it’s much more than simple solar installation. 

 

min pure technical terms with large amount of solar installations inertia of power grid will go down thus grid will collapse even for a small fault. 

For your rooftop....you don't need batteries. You feed back into the grid and use it as a battery. You only pay for excess electricity used.

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

igo kaka..desham la jharkhand, chattisgarh, bengal tarvata next coal supplies assurance vunadi Telangana ke...and TG Govt owns 51% of Singareni and decisions will be in favour of TG.

TG lo power cuts peak hours la villages to balance the load...1pm-6pm madhyalo industries and commercial consumers ki as usual power supply with no cuts, ie time lo load shedding kosam agri and rural lo power cuts...evening tarvata no power cuts.

sinagareni ni 50 years kaapadindhi Ap govt. sendraal had a key role.

https://www.financialexpress.com/archive/singareni-collieries-back-with-a-bounce/78913/

I will give it 20 years before TG will privatize this.

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

For your rooftop....you don't need batteries. You feed back into the grid and use it as a battery. You only pay for excess electricity used.

so grid lo current lekapothe etta - in night time ? whats the use of 2.25 lak investment.

[Android_Halwa]

32 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

sinagareni ni 50 years kaapadindhi Ap govt. sendraal had a key role.

https://www.financialexpress.com/archive/singareni-collieries-back-with-a-bounce/78913/

I will give it 20 years before TG will privatize this.

Singareni modalu pettinde Hyderabad Govt. danni by default AP Govt kindaki vachindi...motham nashanam chesinaru..malla midikelli kapadaniam ani claim cheyadam..

successful coal company ni diwala teeyinchi, malli kapadinam ani chepadam...

By the way, AP Govt was not the one who has started this company. It just inherited like may other things from the state of Hyderabad.

[krishnaaa]

18 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

This is the problem. 

For someone who pays 1000-2000 rs per month as electricity bills, you want them to spend so much money to install solar power, the feasibility equation goes wrong in such cases.

Escaping responsibility ledu emi ledu, feasibility equation inka not up to the scale. middle class batch ni edikelli 2.25 lakh teesukuni rammantav ? 

It takes time. A decade later, every third house will have solar roof top panel installed.

As I said before, you don't need 5 KW.

3 KW is more than sufficient which is less than 1.6L. It will take off the cost per unit from higher slabs.

Lot of middle class people are buying iphones....they have money to waste.

My middle class roommates bought BMW and Mercedes in US.....rich roomies bought Toyota and Honda.

So don't tell me that middle class cannot afford solar. With solar they can buy 2 wheeler ev and save even more money.

Solar is for middle class people. 

 

[krishnaaa]

52 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

so grid lo current lekapothe etta - in night time ? whats the use of 2.25 lak investment.

If we all invest in solar, grid won't have shortage and there won't be powercut.

First get it installed. Don't give silly reasons.

Solar is mainly to save on electric bills. It's also good for India. Patriotism doesn't mean standing up for Jana gana mana....it means to do something for your fellow human beings. Solar is win win.

You can get cheap invertor....in future you can use your EV car to power your house in case there is a power cut.

Ford Electric truck can power a house for 3 days.

[Telugodura456]

23 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Singareni modalu pettinde Hyderabad Govt. danni by default AP Govt kindaki vachindi...motham nashanam chesinaru..malla midikelli kapadaniam ani claim cheyadam..

successful coal company ni diwala teeyinchi, malli kapadinam ani chepadam...

By the way, AP Govt was not the one who has started this company. It just inherited like may other things from the state of Hyderabad.

kathal bandh  cheyyi - is there a single govt owned mining company in india making profits. Only singareni did after restructuringi n 2000s.

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

If we all invest in solar, grid won't have shortage and there won't be powercut.

First get it installed. Don't give silly reasons.

Solar is mainly to save on electric bills. It's also good for India. Patriotism doesn't mean standing up for Jana gana mana....it means to do something for your fellow human beings. Solar is win win.

You can get cheap invertor....in future you can use your EV car to power your house in case there is a power cut.

Ford Electric truck can power a house for 3 days.

I asked a question not giving a reason or excuse. So solar is not an answer for power cuts during night.

[Android_Halwa]

8 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

kathal bandh  cheyyi - is there a single govt owned mining company in india making profits. Only singareni did after restructuringi n 2000s.

Mundu kuda Singareni profits lo ne…loss loki enduku poindi ? Evadi palana Lo loss ayindi ? Vunna danni loss Ki teesukapoi malli restricted chesinaka profits Ki vachindi anta…

kallu virakotti kattu kattadam ante ide…like I said, AP Govt did nothing as usual.

[Android_Halwa]

15 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

If we all invest in solar, grid won't have shortage and there won't be powercut.

First get it installed. Don't give silly reasons.

Solar is mainly to save on electric bills. It's also good for India. Patriotism doesn't mean standing up for Jana gana mana....it means to do something for your fellow human beings. Solar is win win.

You can get cheap invertor....in future you can use your EV car to power your house in case there is a power cut.

Ford Electric truck can power a house for 3 days.

‘invest’ itself is the problem ra Babu ante invest invest ante inkemi septham..! 

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Android_Halwa said:

Mundu kuda Singareni profits lo ne…loss loki enduku poindi ? Evadi palana Lo loss ayindi ? Vunna danni loss Ki teesukapoi malli restricted chesinaka profits Ki vachindi anta…

kallu virakotti kattu kattadam ante ide…like I said, AP Govt did nothing as usual.

British vaadu nadipetappudu anni profits lo ne vundevi baa - singareni started as british company. maybe even nizam kooda - they never had to give employees any rights.

After india came almost every govt mining company went to losses. Only singareni was protected by andhra govt under sendraal and restored to profits.

[krishnaaa]

13 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

I asked a question not giving a reason or excuse. So solar is not an answer for power cuts during night.

Solar is the answer if you buy batteries.

But I didn't go that route as the powercuts are minimal where I live. So return on investment isn't much for the batteries.