Adani and Mosha biggest coal mismanagement

[pakeer_saab]

1 hour ago, Spartan said:

recheck my post again.

austraiia is not the major supplier, Indonesia is for Thermal Coal

crunch enduku vachindo worldwide picture chuste telustadi...

adanta maak telvad, iyaala ee point dorikindi, MoShah stopped imports ani chepparu.. adi nijam anthe

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

vidyutpravah kadu official data links for all states and UTs echa chudu… electricity india peak demand in 2021 is 203GW. For you info India has a generation capacity of 400GW in 2021. 400GW capacity undi 204gw supply cheyatledu ante meaning enti ?

anna naku india electricity demand gurinchi cheppaku.

400 GW lo thermal entha ? ~230-250 GW. and Indians plants never operated beyond 50-60% capacity, Idi aithe niku telise vundali. Only in the last 2-4 years, have they been operating at peak capacities and efficient but they were never fully efficient. 

Indian electricity demand gurinchi niku aithe antha telise vundali kada, thermal installed capacity entha vunte entha generation chestham anedi...

[JackSeal]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

400 GW lo thermal entha ? ~230-250 GW. and Indians plants never operated beyond 50-60% capacity, Idi aithe niku telise vundali. Only in the last 2-4 years, have they been operating at peak capacities and efficient but they were never fully efficient. 

Indian electricity demand gurinchi niku aithe antha telise vundali kada, thermal installed capacity entha vunte entha generation chestham anedi...

if there is no coal shortage and good quality coal all thermal units operate at full capacity, this is way back in 2013. but coal plants weather public or private suffer from boiler tube leakages frequently. Around 55% of installed capacity is coal based and has major share in peak hours and full share during night hours, when there is coal shortage govt failed to mobilize LNG power stations, urke idle ga untai. every day LNG station will declare capacity, konevadu leka either runs at minimum or shutdown completely.

dhenne mismanagement antaru.

[Android_Halwa]

4 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

if there is no coal shortage and good quality coal all thermal units operate at full capacity, this is way back in 2013. but coal plants weather public or private suffer from boiler tube leakages frequently. Around 55% of installed capacity is coal based and has major share in peak hours and full share during night hours, when there is coal shortage govt failed to mobilize LNG power stations, urke idle ga untai. every day LNG station will declare capacity, konevadu leka either runs at minimum or shutdown completely.

dhenne mismanagement antaru.

Ikada mismanagement is linked to MoSha and Adani...wondering how MoSha and Adani mismanaged the energy scenario...

full capacity tho ae thermal plant nadavaledu india la...installed capacity lo 60-70% reach avadame ekuva...idemi kotha kadu..enduku reach avatledu ante 100's of reasons..but as a thumb rule, we can say ~70% installed GW capacity is still being met by thermal plants. 

Are you expecting MoSha and Adani to maintain 100% output from thermal plants ?

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 hour ago, Spartan said:

Nuclear Energy ki expansion ivvatledu global mafia.

that would ease crunch for second populous nation.

Jayalalithaa the most forward thinking and daring leader in india last decade , she booked 1000+ people under sedition cases including church heads , NGO staff for conspiring to block 6000 ME kundakulam nuclear plant 

 

The only nuclear plant that saw work done after Modi's win in 2014 , tamil nadu was lucky to have such daring leadership. 

[Android_Halwa]

Idigo...one of the main reason for coal shortages..

Power gencos owe about Rs 12,300 crore to state-owned CIL, whereas gencos are owed over Rs 1.1 lakh crore by power discoms

Many states across the country are facing power cuts with some resorting to blackouts for up to 12 hours during the hotter-than-normal summers, due to low coal availability and high demand. The power supply crisis is also being attributed to the non-payment of dues to Coal India Ltd (CIL). Recently, Power Minister R K Singh said power outages were primarily happening because states had not cleared their dues to CIL.

Power generation companies (gencos) owe about Rs 12,300 crore to state-owned CIL, whereas gencos are owed over Rs 1.1 lakh crore by power distribution companies (discoms). yet, CIL continues to supply coal to gencos and gencos continue to supply electricity to customers. However, industry officials said the non-payment of dues by discoms has affected power generation companies.

Gencos across the country have reported low coal stock at power stations. The main reasons were the low supply from Coal India and its subsidiaries and the lack of wagons available with the railways to carry coal from pitheads to power plants.

However, many plants were being offered coal on payment. CIL raised supplies to Maharashtra, which owes the company Rs 2,000 crore, by about 30 per cent, as per reports.

RELATED NEWS

• 

  Delhi Discoms to Get As Much Power As Required, Says Union Minister R K Singh

• 

  Nepal May Cut Power to Its Industrial Corridors; Says Not Getting Adequate Electricity from India

ICRA Senior Vice-President and Co-Group Head (Corporate Rating) Girishkumar Kadam said, “There has been a moderation in coal supply towards certain gencos because of the overdues or delays in the payments. As a result, discoms/state governments will either have to absorb the cost burden with increased imported coal-based generation and pass on the same through tariff hikes or they could be constrained to offtake power, resulting in load shedding, which has been visible in a few states recently."

The Power Blackouts Across India

PROMOTED CONTENT

By 

 

 

In Delhi, the power demand crossed the 6,000-megawatt-per-day mark for the first time in April as the city government raised alarms over the shortage of coal. The Delhi government on April 28 said its coal supplies were depleting with Dadri-II having a day’s coal stock left; Unchahar two days; Kahalgaon three-and-a-half days, Farakka five days, and Jhajjar around seven or eight days.

Uttar Pradesh has a deficit of 3,000 MW against the demand of around 23,000 MW. The supply is just 20,000 MW, resulting in long power cuts in the rural areas, according to reports.

Uttarakhand also faced long power cuts. Uttarakhand Power Corporation Ltd MD Anil Kumar has said it is due to a rise in demand and the closure of a gas-driven power plant in Kashipur in Udham Singh Nagar district for the electricity shortage.

For Andhra Pradesh, news agency PTI has reported that the state is facing a shortfall of about 50 million units of power as against the demand of 210 million units a day. According to the state Energy Secretary B Sridhar, the current crisis, which was a nationwide phenomenon, might ease by this week.

However, Odisha Chief Secretary S C Mohapatra said there is no coal crisis in the state like other states where the power supply is being snapped for 10-12 hours a day due to the coal shortage. “I have instructed the CMD of MCL (Mahanadi Coalfields Ltd) to ensure proper supply of coal to power plants in Odisha," he said, according to PTI.

The country’s peak power demand met or the highest supply in a day touched an all-time high of 207.11 gigawatts (GW) on Friday. “The maximum all-India demand met (peak supply) touched 2,07,111 MW at 1450 hrs today, an all-time high so far," the Ministry of Power said. The peak power demand had touched a record level of 204.65 GW on Thursday. The peak power shortage on Thursday was 10.77 GW.

[Android_Halwa]

Just now, Ryzen_renoir said:

Jayalalithaa the most forward thinking and daring leader in india last decade , she booked 1000+ people under sedition cases including church heads , NGO staff for conspiring to block 6000 ME kundakulam nuclear plant 

 

The only nuclear plant that saw work done after Modi's win in 2014 , tamil nadu was lucky to have such daring leadership. 

Now they are enjoying low cost stable power supply

I used to follow Kudankulam protests daily. I clearly remember, Jaya initially did not support much but once Tamil Nadu was allotted major share of energy from the plant, she acted tough and cracked down on every single protest. She chased away protestors. 

End of the day, the state got benefited.

[JackSeal]

3 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Ikada mismanagement is linked to MoSha and Adani...wondering how MoSha and Adani mismanaged the energy scenario...

full capacity tho ae thermal plant nadavaledu india la...installed capacity lo 60-70% reach avadame ekuva...idemi kotha kadu..enduku reach avatledu ante 100's of reasons..but as a thumb rule, we can say ~70% installed GW capacity is still being met by thermal plants. 

Are you expecting MoSha and Adani to maintain 100% output from thermal plants ?

it’s not about output… why all local coal mining output went down to create artificial shortage ? When adani failed to deliver as expected why govt asked to ramp up the output and running cargo trains on war footing. 
Adani coal production started in Australia and coal shortage in India sheer coincidence ? 

[Android_Halwa]

1 minute ago, JackSeal said:

it’s not about output… why all local coal mining output went down to create artificial shortage ? When adani failed to deliver as expected why govt asked to ramp up the output and running cargo trains on war footing. 
Adani coal production started in Australia and coal shortage in India sheer coincidence ? 

It does not explain mismanagement...

[JackSeal]

5 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Idigo...one of the main reason for coal shortages..

Power gencos owe about Rs 12,300 crore to state-owned CIL, whereas gencos are owed over Rs 1.1 lakh crore by power discoms

Many states across the country are facing power cuts with some resorting to blackouts for up to 12 hours during the hotter-than-normal summers, due to low coal availability and high demand. The power supply crisis is also being attributed to the non-payment of dues to Coal India Ltd (CIL). Recently, Power Minister R K Singh said power outages were primarily happening because states had not cleared their dues to CIL.

Power generation companies (gencos) owe about Rs 12,300 crore to state-owned CIL, whereas gencos are owed over Rs 1.1 lakh crore by power distribution companies (discoms). yet, CIL continues to supply coal to gencos and gencos continue to supply electricity to customers. However, industry officials said the non-payment of dues by discoms has affected power generation companies.

Gencos across the country have reported low coal stock at power stations. The main reasons were the low supply from Coal India and its subsidiaries and the lack of wagons available with the railways to carry coal from pitheads to power plants.

However, many plants were being offered coal on payment. CIL raised supplies to Maharashtra, which owes the company Rs 2,000 crore, by about 30 per cent, as per reports.

RELATED NEWS

• 

  Delhi Discoms to Get As Much Power As Required, Says Union Minister R K Singh

• 

  Nepal May Cut Power to Its Industrial Corridors; Says Not Getting Adequate Electricity from India

ICRA Senior Vice-President and Co-Group Head (Corporate Rating) Girishkumar Kadam said, “There has been a moderation in coal supply towards certain gencos because of the overdues or delays in the payments. As a result, discoms/state governments will either have to absorb the cost burden with increased imported coal-based generation and pass on the same through tariff hikes or they could be constrained to offtake power, resulting in load shedding, which has been visible in a few states recently."

The Power Blackouts Across India

PROMOTED CONTENT

By 

 

 

In Delhi, the power demand crossed the 6,000-megawatt-per-day mark for the first time in April as the city government raised alarms over the shortage of coal. The Delhi government on April 28 said its coal supplies were depleting with Dadri-II having a day’s coal stock left; Unchahar two days; Kahalgaon three-and-a-half days, Farakka five days, and Jhajjar around seven or eight days.

Uttar Pradesh has a deficit of 3,000 MW against the demand of around 23,000 MW. The supply is just 20,000 MW, resulting in long power cuts in the rural areas, according to reports.

Uttarakhand also faced long power cuts. Uttarakhand Power Corporation Ltd MD Anil Kumar has said it is due to a rise in demand and the closure of a gas-driven power plant in Kashipur in Udham Singh Nagar district for the electricity shortage.

For Andhra Pradesh, news agency PTI has reported that the state is facing a shortfall of about 50 million units of power as against the demand of 210 million units a day. According to the state Energy Secretary B Sridhar, the current crisis, which was a nationwide phenomenon, might ease by this week.

However, Odisha Chief Secretary S C Mohapatra said there is no coal crisis in the state like other states where the power supply is being snapped for 10-12 hours a day due to the coal shortage. “I have instructed the CMD of MCL (Mahanadi Coalfields Ltd) to ensure proper supply of coal to power plants in Odisha," he said, according to PTI.

The country’s peak power demand met or the highest supply in a day touched an all-time high of 207.11 gigawatts (GW) on Friday. “The maximum all-India demand met (peak supply) touched 2,07,111 MW at 1450 hrs today, an all-time high so far," the Ministry of Power said. The peak power demand had touched a record level of 204.65 GW on Thursday. The peak power shortage on Thursday was 10.77 GW.

Yes it’s a mismanagement. but what are you trying to say here ? state gencos dues are piling up and impacting CIL production and thus pushing whole country into crisis what should the central govt do ? use brain

[JackSeal]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

It does not explain mismanagement...

It’s called mismanagement, evado coal export chesthadu ani abrupt ga local production slow cheyadam vadu hand evvadam and whole country in crisis. Mismanagement kakapothe

[Android_Halwa]

5 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

Yes it’s a mismanagement. but what are you trying to say here ? state gencos dues are piling up and impacting CIL production and thus pushing whole country into crisis what should the central govt do ? use brain

I'm only thinking how to link all the mess to MoSha and Adani's australia's coal....

[Pavanonline]

1 hour ago, Spartan said:

Nuclear Energy ki expansion ivvatledu global mafia.

that would ease crunch for second populous nation.

Not just india, Europe, usa too. Europe energy crisis start ayinde because they stopped existing nuclear with wishful thinking it can be replaced by renewables. Ipudu Russia nundi techukoni inka ekkuva pollute chestunaru 

[Android_Halwa]

4 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

It’s called mismanagement, evado coal export chesthadu ani abrupt ga local production slow cheyadam vadu hand evvadam and whole country in crisis. Mismanagement kakapothe

Its mismanagement ane badulu, policy failure anadam better...

Energy is expensive in India and consumers don't end up paying, government don't reimburse subsidized energy distributions on time, progressive governments offer free electricity like 300 units free in Punjab which is already an energy deficit state, investments into electricity infrastructure running into billions of $'s, people like Adani does not supply coal on time.

This is not mismanaging; this has been a policy failure at every level for decades. What you are looking at now is just the beginning. Energy finances are drying up fast and if not topped up, you will get to see more blackouts. 

[Sheri]

7 hours ago, JackSeal said:

Go and check all state sldc and posoco websites and load curves … 30-40% load pergindhi ani ae sannasi cheppadu neku ? In telangana April maximum demand in a day in 2021 is 283 million units, where as its 274 million units in 2022.

April peak energy requirement pergindha thaggindha?

https://apps.tstransco.in/tslmc/loadmonteringcell.aspx

Aadu anthe demand ekkuva ayyindi ane antadu.. coal shortage lower production by coal india ani maatram oppukodu sunta. Telisinde kada. Ayina demand ekkuva avutundi ani teliyada govt ki. Problem through out india. Useless fellows year on year demand growth untundi ani kuda teliyadu ee bhakt gallaki. Malli religious fights rechcha gottadam lo first untaru.