calling db leftist Telugodura.

[sintu]

Telugodura claiming he's leftist is the biggest joke

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

again, why are you so worked up? lmao.

you never actually asked me why I'm more sympathetic to liberalism than any of the other 'isms. Like I am asking you to define your 'leftism', which you are utterly failing at.

literally the 8-hr work day came from execution of four anarchists on May 1 1886 in Chicago who fought for the right to an 8hr work day. lmao.

I dont need to define leftism. it is not something new. Should i define islam to debate islam or define hinduism to debate hinduism. You are one pesky annoying twit.

8 hour workday for all profession was established first by soviet union in 1917. There were demands here and there and some little success here and there before. But the permanency of worker rights came due to the awesome presence of soviets and their power in the world.

And most of the victories before came from trade unions - influenced by whom?

four anarchists anta. thoo.

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

I dont need to define leftism. it is not something new. Should i define islam to debate islam or define hinduism to debate hinduism. You are one pesky annoying twit.

8 hour workday for all profession was established first by soviet union in 1917. There were demands here and there and some little success here and there. But the permanency of worker rights came due to the awesome presence of soviets and their power in the world.

well you accuse me of being a liberal, when almost everything you post is neoliberal with a hint of ethnonationalism. I don't care what you are.. I only care that you stop irritating me with your self important bs. calling yourself as 'standing with working class' is the ultimate cringe I want to avoid dealing with.

yeah communists stole all the best ideas from anarchists, duh! and they failed in building a state.. down with those assholes.  Plus they killed anarchists in millions. fcuk USSR, fcuk China.

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, sintu said:

Telugodura claiming he's leftist is the biggest joke

Yes only thella people are allowed to define themslves by ideology. chinese are frauds, andhra people are just ethno scum. Narsi gaadi another clone.

[futureofandhra]

Just now, Raven_Rayes said:

well you accuse me of being a liberal, when almost everything you post is neoliberal with a hint of ethnonationalism. I don't care what you are.. I only care that you stop irritating me with your self important bs. calling yourself as 'standing with working class' is the ultimate cringe I want to avoid dealing with.

yeah communists stole all the best ideas from anarchists, duh! and they failed in building a state.. down with those assholes.  Plus they killed anarchists in millions. fcuk USSR, fcuk China.

ur sanghi

why r u covering ur sanghi face

 

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

Yes only thella people are allowed to define themslves by ideology. chinese are frauds, andhra people are just ethno scum. Narsi gaadi another clone.

first you should define it. lmao.

I can call myself a lion too, if I define a lion as having a vegan lifestyle and humps only dry.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Raven_Rayes said:

well you accuse me of being a liberal, when almost everything you post is neoliberal with a hint of ethnonationalism. I don't care what you are.. I only care that you stop irritating me with your self important bs. calling yourself as 'standing with working class' is the ultimate cringe I want to avoid dealing with.

yeah communists stole all the best ideas from anarchists, duh! and they failed in building a state.. down with those assholes.  Plus they killed anarchists in millions. fcuk USSR, fcuk China.

Where is "hint" of ethnonationalismm. Where is nationalism? did i every say one language people should attack another language people ? the way you lie again and again. You do it solely because of my origins which arent that different from your origins. Thats what makes it so sad - the self contempt you developed but project it on to just an immeideate neighboring region. 

What state did anarchists build ? duh. Anarchists have always been a joke, a side thing in rich capitalist countries like a goth phase people go through.

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, futureofandhra said:

ur sanghi

why r u covering ur sanghi face

 

you are the pits in this db. Telugodura is within your striking distance.

I'm still waiting for both of you idiots to make some sense.

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

first you should define it. lmao.

I can call myself a lion too, if I define a lion as having a vegan lifestyle and humps only dry.

Leftism - nenu define cheyyadam yenti nee thalakayi. It was there for centuries.

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

Where is "hint" of ethnonationalismm. Where is nationalism? did i every say one language people should attack another language people ? the way you lie again and again.

 

now I have to ask you define 'nationalism'.. lmao..

what kind of idiot are you, dude? you think one is a nationalist only when one supports attacking another ethnicity?

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

because of my origins which arent that different from your origins. Thats what makes it so sad - the self contempt you developed but project it on to just an immeideate neighboring region. 

wtf is this even? I've been more than charitable with you so far, I guess.. now its just boring.

3 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

What state did anarchists build ? duh. Anarchists have always been a joke, a side thing in rich capitalist countries like a goth phase people go through.

anarchists won't build state, duh! those anarchists that claim they will, will degrade to become lowly communists and socialist scum.

and all those 'states' that communists built end up feeding the capitalists. so yeah. communists/socialists specialize in killing in 100s of thousands, while anarchists merely fight for their collective rights against the state - both capitalist and communist/socialist.

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

now I have to ask you define 'nationalism'.. lmao..

what kind of idiot are you, dude? you think one is a nationalist only when one supports attacking another ethnicity?

wtf is this even? I've been more than charitable with you so far, I guess.. now its just boring.

anarchists won't build state, duh! those anarchists that claim they will, will degrade to become lowly communists and socialist scum.

and all those 'states' that communists built end up feeding the capitalists. so yeah. communists/socialists specialize in killing in 100s of thousands, while anarchists merely fight for their collective rights against the state - both capitalist and communist/socialist.

You define nationalism since you are the one who accuses others. Why dont you realize how self entitled prick you are.

Define leftism, define winter, define theory, define summer. These are your "questions".

Anarchists achieved  no collective rights anywhere. communism is also in theory stateless but you need a state to protect the workers rights which were hard one. When the state itself is with capitalists it is ridiculous to think you can win any rights - you can get concessions for a while whcih will be taken away at oppurtune time like roe vs wade.

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Leftism - nenu define cheyyadam yenti nee thalakayi. It was there for centuries.

basically what you are saying is, you'll randomly accuse people you dislike, of anything. and refuse to explain coherently and without contradictions, how the accusation is justified.

because almost everything you say, can be used to implicate you of the same charge.

basically its self hatred, but the sad thing is you are not even aware that you hate yourself, probably.

 

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

basically what you are saying is, you'll randomly accuse people you dislike, of anything. and refuse to explain coherently and without contradictions, how the accusation is justified.

because almost everything you say, can be used to implicate you of the same charge.

basically its self hatred, but the sad thing is you are not even aware that you hate yourself, probably.

 

what a dumbfck. Did i accuse you of leftism? i  "accused" you of liberalism which is what you claimed. I "accused" you of andhra hate which is what you said when you said every andhra fellow in hyd is an exploiter. I "accused" you of hating working class when you repeated trashed tamils, telugu and assamese for asking for recognition for their languages when they are under hindi hegemony.

i have rarely seen such a confused, hateful, distasteful person like you.

[Telugodura456]

what self hate ra narsi - you repeatedy accuse me of language nationalism. And you dont define what you accuse others. You are the one who hated andhra people who are like what - right next to rayalaseem you claim to be from ? is that not self hate?

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

You define nationalism since you are the one who accuses others. Why dont you realize how self entitled prick you are.

its simple. nationalists are people who love their nation. see how simple the definition is.

you fit in perfectly. you love the Telugu nation.. you love it because of your fondness for Telugu (so you claim).. that makes you an ethnonationalist. why ethno - because Telugu is both a linguist and an ethnic group.

for eg.. I can be telugu, since both my parents are Telugu, even though I have nothing to do with Andhra. But someone who was born in Andhra to non-Telugu parents can never be Telugu, even if he can speak the language fluently. It is tied to ethnicity - which is basically caste.

so you are casteist scum too, in addition to being an ethnonationalist. you just don't know it.

5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Define leftism, define winter, define theory, define summer. These are your "questions".

well if you can't even define leftism, then how are you going to counter my claim that all positions are basically neoliberal in spirit, and not leftist?

I know how.. lmao.. by whining your way out of having to explain why you are not a neoliberal.. and accusing me of random pointless bs. lmao.

6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Anarchists achieved  no collective rights anywhere. communism is also in theory stateless but you need a state to protect the workers rights which were hard one. When the state itself is with capitalists it is ridiculous to think you can win any rights - you can get concessions for a while whcih will be taken away at oppurtune time like roe vs wade.

in theory, capitalism is also stateless, but in practice capitalism cannot exist without the state providing cover for its shenanigans. Same with communism. In practice it cannot exist once the state protection is removed to its institutions.

anarchism is way more organic, and doesn't concern itself with pleading with the state to allow concessions. Instead anarchists take direct action and simply do what they want to do. the way humans are meant to live.