Just watched Major... 26...11 failure by India?

[anna_vendy]

5 days they kept people in and our govt couldnt able to do anything sad. 

even couldnt able to take revenge( correct me ) 

ade us lo jarigithay 1 day lo a desam e vunadhu. Jai Jai Usa

[DesiPokiri]

9/11 attacks happened in 2001,

Laden was killed in 2011.

1 day anta, bokkem kadhu. Sagam mandhi usa lo police ki Ilanti situation vasthe ela sea cheyyalo kuda telvadhu, they have less experience in this field 

[Swatkat]

3 minutes ago, anna_vendy said:

5 days they kept people in and our govt couldnt able to do anything sad. 

even couldnt able to take revenge( correct me ) 

ade us lo jarigithay 1 day lo a desam e vunadhu. Jai Jai Usa

Utter failure by indian govt congress govt. the initial plan failed and they took another 6-12 hours i guess. 

[Swatkat]

Just now, DesiPokiri said:

9/11 attacks happened in 2001,

Laden was killed in 2011.

1 day anta, bokkem kadhu. Sagam mandhi usa lo police ki Ilanti situation vasthe ela sea cheyyalo kuda telvadhu, they have less experience in this field 

Adhi veru edhi veru bro. Edhinhostages ni safe ga teskuravali adhi literall ga terroirst attack chesthey war chesaru. 

[Swatkat]

Railway station lone 52 killed and 108 injured (TOI)anukunta pittalni kalchinatku kalchesadu and mana police ki guns undav. 

[DesiPokiri]

1 minute ago, Swatkat said:

Adhi veru edhi veru bro. Edhinhostages ni safe ga teskuravali adhi literall ga terroirst attack chesthey war chesaru. 

Usa lo hostage situation vasthe Sagam mandhi hostages ni lepesevallu usa cops e

[Swatkat]

3 minutes ago, DesiPokiri said:

Usa lo hostage situation vasthe Sagam mandhi hostages ni lepesevallu usa cops e

Asalu railway station lo usa lo ithey hostahes 10 members poina with in minutes lo vachevakku and enough to kill the terrorist with their guns. Swat team avasaramledhu. Hotel lo kavali

[anna_vendy]

3 hours ago, DesiPokiri said:

9/11 attacks happened in 2001,

Laden was killed in 2011.

1 day anta, bokkem kadhu. Sagam mandhi usa lo police ki Ilanti situation vasthe ela sea cheyyalo kuda telvadhu, they have less experience in this field 

Bro in 10 years they find the gaint snake and killed. 

Manollu Buidling lopala vunavallani patukodaniki 5 days shame shame.

Main reasons 

1) Media antha up to date isthe, lopala vallu vadukonaru 

2) After bullet proof jackets faield to protect cops afraid to go inside. 

3) No inbuilt robotos to go inside tackled the situation 

Aditional failures for India NO nsg available immediately in Mumbai

Let's also look at how horribly the UPA botched up resulting in 26/11 & the response.

1) 27 alerts on an attack on Mumbai was passed from the CIA to RAW. All of it ignored.

3) The Jihadis tried to enter Mumbai twice and both failed. Yet there was no response from the government

3) As soon as the jihadis landed, alert fishermen warned the cops of suspicious activity. The police ignored the warnings.

As bad as these were, now comes the truly criminal part.

4) it took the state & centre 3 hours after the attacks began to declare it a terror strike tThey rubbished these massive attacks as "underworld gang war". The reason must be very obvious, a Jihadi strike went against the UPA narrative of "no Jihadi terror only Saffron terror". It took this inept govt 3 hours to even request for the NSG

5) Despite massive corruption scandals including Augusta, this inept govt had not increased one bit NSG bases. Therefore the nearest unit was in Haryana. A mere 1.5 hrs by flight. Yet this useless govt refused to provide IAF planes. The RAW then had to commandeer a IAF plane in Palam.as the GoI refused to mobilise IAF assets,This is one Il76 transport plane used acted as a constraint in itself. It could only transport 110 troopers, to move the full complement of 300+ ,this needed to make 3 trips.

It took a whopping 8 hours to land the full complement The first unit itself reached only 4 hours later.

Let's summarise. The first attacks began at 2000 hrs, the GoI declared it a Terror strike only by 0000 hrs on 27/11, the first NSG complement reached Mumbai (more on this later) only by 0300.

For 7 hours there was no central or trained response. Only the brave but underarmed Mumbai cops had to deal with these heavily armed and trained Jihadis.

7) The plane waited on the tarmac for one full hour as Shivraj Patil the then HM wanted to (publicity stunt?) Arrive with the NSG troop and hence 100 of the elitest units in India sat by twiddling their thumbs.

😎 In the ground in Mumbai the situation was worse. The first troop landed by 0300 yes but they were then taken by road from the airport to the Mantralaya for a briefing by the state HM , not by choppers, not by fast moving SUV's but by ancient BEST buses.

Briefing for the later arrivals done, the NSg finally got into action 12 hours later. 13 hours after the attacks began

Let me repeat, one of the worst Jihadi attacks on Indian soil and this UPA govt took 13 hours to get the most elite units into action.

9) Utter break down in communications - in these terror and war like (using the recent Indo China standoff here as an ex) scenarios, communication is standardised. Not the UPA though.

I remember watching briefings from the NSG head, a bunch of different local unit army commanders, the Deputy chief of police Bombay, then the HM gave an announcement, but the state CM and HM refused to say a single word.

10) Utter failure in state unit and central (NSG + Marco) interoperability. The state run ATS intercepted clear instructions from the Paki handlers to the Jihadis. Yet none of this was passed to the Marcos or NSG who went in blind.

13) lLive telecast - this was galling to me even as a passive witness watching TV. The vultures like Barkha got in and provided video inputs on the areas where the NSG and Marcos were breaching, where there was firing. They showed the commando units forming up, predicting when an attack would go in etc. All this picked up by the Handlers in Jihadistan & passed back to the Jihadis

The epilogue? Barely a few hours after the last Jihadi was taken out, Pappu the princeling was busy partying the night away.

Digvijay says that it was a Hindu conspiracy, Pappu 10 months later warns of "saffron terror”

Jihadi attacks happen. We as citizens understand it but this level of callous, criminally poor response is unforgiving .

Te home minister Patil was busy changing his clothes before every briefing.

#neverforgetneverforgive

 

USA would have took 1.5-2 days atleast to finish the mission successfully. Terrorists were literally roaming all around the city and they weren't easy to track. We weren't even sure that it was such urgent situation at first. Later after 3–5 hours only after state recognized the situation and called to union government for help. Decision Paralysis further took more time and since NSG didn't had their base in mumbai at that time, they came all the way from Delhi. Though Indian Navy MARCOS were called in area to cordon off. It wasn't made open earlier but later only such reports were out that Indian Navy was also involved. NSG were quick and like a professional, they saved as many lives as possible.

If that was in USA, terrorist would have been finished earlier. Help would arrived faster and they would have stopped during their preliminary phase. Even if they managed to get far away, they would have done lesser damage compared to what they did to us and less lives would have been lost.

But we learned from that mistake. Now we have NSG bases within promixity to each major city. NDRF and NSG are the two central agencies I see the most whenever calamity arrives

[JackSeal]

7 minutes ago, Swatkat said:

Railway station lone 150 members killed anukunta pittalni kalchinatku kalchesadu and mana police ki guns undav. 

Have you been to CST station anytime ? CST is guarded by armed police men pre  2008 but they failed. Post 2008 all major places in mumbai are guarded by commandos. Their goal is to get rid of terrorists without hurting civilians.  Don’t talk rubbish.

see the chronology of events … pre 2008 NSG is based in Haryana so it took time to bring 200 commandos to mumbai … before NSG came in Army and marine commandos were dealing the situation. post 2008 NSG has bases all over India 

see timeline with time

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/26-11-mumbai-terror-attacks-timeline-of-what-happened-during-64-hours-of-operation-7642091/lite/

[DesiPokiri]

7 minutes ago, anna_vendy said:

Bro in 10 years they find the gaint snake and killed. 

Manollu Buidling lopala vunavallani patukodaniki 5 days shame shame.

Main reasons 

1) Media antha up to date isthe, lopala vallu vadukonaru 

2) After bullet proof jackets faield to protect cops afraid to go inside. 

3) No inbuilt robotos to go inside tackled the situation 

Aditional failures for India NO nsg available immediately in Mumbai

Let's also look at how horribly the UPA botched up resulting in 26/11 & the response.

1) 27 alerts on an attack on Mumbai was passed from the CIA to RAW. All of it ignored.

3) The Jihadis tried to enter Mumbai twice and both failed. Yet there was no response from the government

3) As soon as the jihadis landed, alert fishermen warned the cops of suspicious activity. The police ignored the warnings.

As bad as these were, now comes the truly criminal part.

4) it took the state & centre 3 hours after the attacks began to declare it a terror strike tThey rubbished these massive attacks as "underworld gang war". The reason must be very obvious, a Jihadi strike went against the UPA narrative of "no Jihadi terror only Saffron terror". It took this inept govt 3 hours to even request for the NSG

5) Despite massive corruption scandals including Augusta, this inept govt had not increased one bit NSG bases. Therefore the nearest unit was in Haryana. A mere 1.5 hrs by flight. Yet this useless govt refused to provide IAF planes. The RAW then had to commandeer a IAF plane in Palam.as the GoI refused to mobilise IAF assets,This is one Il76 transport plane used acted as a constraint in itself. It could only transport 110 troopers, to move the full complement of 300+ ,this needed to make 3 trips.

It took a whopping 8 hours to land the full complement The first unit itself reached only 4 hours later.

Let's summarise. The first attacks began at 2000 hrs, the GoI declared it a Terror strike only by 0000 hrs on 27/11, the first NSG complement reached Mumbai (more on this later) only by 0300.

For 7 hours there was no central or trained response. Only the brave but underarmed Mumbai cops had to deal with these heavily armed and trained Jihadis.

7) The plane waited on the tarmac for one full hour as Shivraj Patil the then HM wanted to (publicity stunt?) Arrive with the NSG troop and hence 100 of the elitest units in India sat by twiddling their thumbs.

😎 In the ground in Mumbai the situation was worse. The first troop landed by 0300 yes but they were then taken by road from the airport to the Mantralaya for a briefing by the state HM , not by choppers, not by fast moving SUV's but by ancient BEST buses.

Briefing for the later arrivals done, the NSg finally got into action 12 hours later. 13 hours after the attacks began

Let me repeat, one of the worst Jihadi attacks on Indian soil and this UPA govt took 13 hours to get the most elite units into action.

9) Utter break down in communications - in these terror and war like (using the recent Indo China standoff here as an ex) scenarios, communication is standardised. Not the UPA though.

I remember watching briefings from the NSG head, a bunch of different local unit army commanders, the Deputy chief of police Bombay, then the HM gave an announcement, but the state CM and HM refused to say a single word.

10) Utter failure in state unit and central (NSG + Marco) interoperability. The state run ATS intercepted clear instructions from the Paki handlers to the Jihadis. Yet none of this was passed to the Marcos or NSG who went in blind.

13) lLive telecast - this was galling to me even as a passive witness watching TV. The vultures like Barkha got in and provided video inputs on the areas where the NSG and Marcos were breaching, where there was firing. They showed the commando units forming up, predicting when an attack would go in etc. All this picked up by the Handlers in Jihadistan & passed back to the Jihadis

The epilogue? Barely a few hours after the last Jihadi was taken out, Pappu the princeling was busy partying the night away.

Rahul in party mood soon after Mumbai crisis

Digvijay says that it was a Hindu conspiracy, Pappu 10 months later warns of "saffron terror”

Jihadi attacks happen. We as citizens understand it but this level of callous, criminally poor response is unforgiving .

Te home minister Patil was busy changing his clothes before every briefing.

#neverforgetneverforgive

 

USA would have took 1.5-2 days atleast to finish the mission successfully. Terrorists were literally roaming all around the city and they weren't easy to track. We weren't even sure that it was such urgent situation at first. Later after 3–5 hours only after state recognized the situation and called to union government for help. Decision Paralysis further took more time and since NSG didn't had their base in mumbai at that time, they came all the way from Delhi. Though Indian Navy MARCOS were called in area to cordon off. It wasn't made open earlier but later only such reports were out that Indian Navy was also involved. NSG were quick and like a professional, they saved as many lives as possible.

If that was in USA, terrorist would have been finished earlier. Help would arrived faster and they would have stopped during their preliminary phase. Even if they managed to get far away, they would have done lesser damage compared to what they did to us and less lives would have been lost.

But we learned from that mistake. Now we have NSG bases within promixity to each major city. NDRF and NSG are the two central agencies I see the most whenever calamity arrives

Arei vendy entra ee passage, asalu sadhivi pettava edho copy chesi pettesava

[Thokkalee]

We all learn from our mistakes and move on… most of the fatalities occurred in the first few hours before the police even responded to it… after that it turned into a hostage situation.. 

[sarvayogi]

3 hours ago, DesiPokiri said:

9/11 attacks happened in 2001,

Laden was killed in 2011.

1 day anta, bokkem kadhu. Sagam mandhi usa lo police ki Ilanti situation vasthe ela sea cheyyalo kuda telvadhu, they have less experience in this field 

erri naa kunka .. sagam telusu sagam telvad..L ni lepadam big deal ameria ki..but aa name cheppi they did wars with countries and completely looted and finally one day announced we found him and killed..

you think US takes years together to find out any single induvidual on earth....they know the details an locations of every most wanted person..just time chusi they kill..mari super power ani enduku antaru

[bhaigan]

3 hours ago, DesiPokiri said:

9/11 attacks happened in 2001,

Laden was killed in 2011.

1 day anta, bokkem kadhu. Sagam mandhi usa lo police ki Ilanti situation vasthe ela sea cheyyalo kuda telvadhu, they have less experience in this field 

UPA government appudu unna technologies max use chesukoni entha react avvalo antha react ayindi

[DesiPokiri]

3 minutes ago, sarvayogi said:

erri naa kunka .. sagam telusu sagam telvad..L ni lepadam big deal ameria ki..but aa name cheppi they did wars with countries and completely looted and finally one day announced we found him and killed..

you think US takes years together to find out any single induvidual on earth....they know the details an locations of every most wanted person..just time chusi they kill..mari super power ani enduku antaru

10 years wait chesindra Mari lafoot ga deniko cheppu née kodi burra vaadi

[sarvayogi]

3 minutes ago, DesiPokiri said:

10 years wait chesindra Mari lafoot ga deniko cheppu née kodi burra vaadi

ooh you think war with a country is like going to restaurant and having biryani...just read what happened in US 2000-2016 during bush and obama time...the wars they did ... 

small brains like you think everything in the world is login to amazon.com and hit buy...