RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: It didnt escalate, You just ran because you came here to troll someone - not to discuss. Stay away. I Ran? Yes, I generally run to stay away from discussions where people get into personal specifics and attribute groups/motives to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: I Ran? Yes, I generally run to stay away from discussions where people get into personal specifics and attribute groups/motives to me. Motive/attributes are clear. If you are fair minded guy you will have the same points whether against heritage or amul. On top of it you will have concern for telugu or andhra peopel and their economy. But you dont show that. Why dont you answer my points of inviting a different co-op in to state instead of strengthening its own. And why ignore the political impacto f inviting a gujrat based company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Heritage is also a very run company. Moroever its a local company, all the top executives live in AP or TG and the entire profits or revenues are spent back on telugu people. Even if jagga doesnt like heritage he can strengthen AP co-operatives. Ap had a long tradition of co-operatives. he could have revived them. Only a cunning troll cannot see the politics behind inviting a gujarat cooperative in to AP. Even a kid can tell it is trying to please delhi govt by siphoning value of telugu society to Gujrat. but you pretend not to notice and think no one will call your bluff. I don't know what do you mean by a very run company. Heritage is a corporate and not a cooperative. All profits derived out of heritage are for the promoters and investors. Amul is a cooperative and the profits of the company are not for private parties. Andhra definitely has a long tradition of cooperatives that were either usurped by the local strongmen or the government and run to ground. Encouraging a cooperative like Amul, imo is not a problem. There is no siphoning off of any value to the Gujaratis by the government. What is there to bluff? How is the central government benefitting from all of these? And, what was my bluff that you called out? Please enlighten me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Motive/attributes are clear. If you are fair minded guy you will have the same points whether against heritage or amul. On top of it you will have concern for telugu or andhra peopel and their economy. But you dont show that. Why dont you answer my points of inviting a different co-op in to state instead of strengthening its own. And why ignore the political impacto f inviting a gujrat based company. Which other cooperative in Andhra is operating in the diary space and is running without a debt? Please point out. What concern should I show for the andhra people? Heritage is a corporate and Amul is a cooperative. If that does not make it clear, what else can I say? And, if I remember right, Amul was offering more money to the suppliers than every other player at the time. Regarding Adani and ports someone mentioned, it is the same Adani who was supposedly bringing in 2 Lakh crores of investment in the previous government. Name one other player who is as big in the port space. Motives can be attributed to anyone that opposes our arguments. If there is meat to your argument, please advise on the alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: I don't know what do you mean by a very run company. Heritage is a corporate and not a cooperative. All profits derived out of heritage are for the promoters and investors. Amul is a cooperative and the profits of the company are not for private parties. Andhra definitely has a long tradition of cooperatives that were either usurped by the local strongmen or the government and run to ground. Encouraging a cooperative like Amul, imo is not a problem. There is no siphoning off of any value to the Gujaratis by the government. What is there to bluff? How is the central government benefitting from all of these? And, what was my bluff that you called out? Please enlighten me. Bro why can't jgnaaal sir start "JagaxNn anna paaala devana" type of programme ad help APp dairy farmersss rather colluding with gujaaaraathi company... Ok, Let's say through Amullll company whose getting benefitted locally in APP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: Which other cooperative in Andhra is operating in the diary space and is running without a debt? Please point out. What concern should I show for the andhra people? Heritage is a corporate and Amul is a cooperative. If that does not make it clear, what else can I say? And, if I remember right, Amul was offering more money to the suppliers than every other player at the time. Regarding Adani and ports someone mentioned, it is the same Adani who was supposedly bringing in 2 Lakh crores of investment in the previous government. Name one other player who is as big in the port space. Motives can be attributed to anyone that opposes our arguments. If there is meat to your argument, please advise on the alternatives. Present govt la aadaaani sirr em investmentss chesaaaru ...acquiring thappa? Last govt memorandum of 2 laccc kokaa "data centeeerr" as you have mentioned is gone away from Ap under the great leadershippp of jgnaal sir to sambaaarland I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: Present govt la aadaaani sirr em investmentss chesaaaru ...acquiring thappa? Last govt memorandum of 2 laccc kokaa "data centeeerr" as you have mentioned is gone away from Ap under the great leadershippp of jgnaal sir to sambaaarland I suppose... eppudu vacchindi kabatti povadaniki sir? Anni prakatanale kadha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: Bro why can't jgnaaal sir start "JagaxNn anna paaala devana" type of programme ad help APp dairy farmersss rather colluding with gujaaaraathi company... Ok, Let's say through Amullll company whose getting benefitted locally in APP? What are your points against Amul konchem cheppu bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: eppudu vacchindi kabatti povadaniki sir? Anni prakatanale kadha. Antey andaru jgnaaal sir laaga 3 capitals develop cheyyaleru kadha and also decentralized fruits already APp prajalu enjoyy chesthunaaru kadha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: What are your points against Amul konchem cheppu bro? Naa personal view points kadhu...in general official businesssss points nenu already quote chesi ..official writeup copy paste chesina... I reiterate there is no need for jgnaal sir govt to make an agreement with amooolll company for diverting sanghaamm dairyyy and other dairyyss milkkk business to amoooll...instead he should have created a new co-operative society for APp local dairies and make them beneficiaries out of it rather typically guujjjuu company taking over milk businesssss from APp ....this is my opinion bro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: Antey andaru jgnaaal sir laaga 3 capitals develop cheyyaleru kadha and also decentralized fruits already APp prajalu enjoyy chesthunaaru kadha Yeah. correcte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: Naa personal view points kadhu...in general official businesssss points nenu already quote chesi ..official writeup copy paste chesina... I reiterate there is no need for jgnaal sir govt to make an agreement with amooolll company for diverting sanghaamm dairyyy and other dairyyss milkkk business to amoooll...instead he should have created a new co-operative society for APp local dairies and make them beneficiaries out of it rather typically guujjjuu company taking over milk businesssss from APp ....this is my opinion bro... Super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: Which other cooperative in Andhra is operating in the diary space and is running without a debt? Please point out. What concern should I show for the andhra people? Heritage is a corporate and Amul is a cooperative. If that does not make it clear, what else can I say? And, if I remember right, Amul was offering more money to the suppliers than every other player at the time. Regarding Adani and ports someone mentioned, it is the same Adani who was supposedly bringing in 2 Lakh crores of investment in the previous government. Name one other player who is as big in the port space. Motives can be attributed to anyone that opposes our arguments. If there is meat to your argument, please advise on the alternatives. So a state govt - instead of developing their own co=operatives - inviting gujrat co-operatives lo vinthemi kanapadatledha. Amul does not even have a plant till now - they are building something in nuzvid. This means all the milk will be supplied to other state plants. You have still adopted the technique of ostrich. How much assets have been transferred to AMul ? was there any competitive bidding ? . When you don't talk on behalf of people - you should not talk about politics and do your caste Panchayati's. Discussion of politics is only legitimate when you have the morals to talk on behalf of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Telugodura456 said: So a state govt - instead of developing their own co=operatives - inviting gujrat co-operatives lo vinthemi kanapadatledha. Amul does not even have a plant till now - they are building something in nuzvid. This means all the milk will be supplied to other state plants. You have still adopted the technique of ostrich. How much assets have been transferred to AMul ? was there any competitive bidding ? . When you don't talk on behalf of people - you should not talk about politics and do your caste Panchayati's. Discussion of politics is only legitimate when you have the morals to talk on behalf of people. Morals? Caste Panchayatis? What assets have been transferred? State governments own cooperatives? This is news to me. Plants will be built. Do the companies have infrastructure in place even before they start? Don't businesses start building in an organic order? Just because I am not aligned to your idea of development or your idea of who an ideal person is to lead the state, what gives you the moral authority to call me names? What do you even know about my caste? You resort to name calling the moment your arguments run dry. Let's assume that all milk they collect is supplied to plants from other states. Is that stopping the milk suppliers from getting the money they were promised? Has that led to shortage of milk in the state? Are you ruing about the lack of the returns for the state? before this, what was happening to all the milk that Amul is procuring now ? Did that aid in building infrastructure(diaries etc) in the state? If yes, what happened to them? What happened to Chittoor Diary? What happened to Sangam diary? Were they able bring in the so called benefit to the state? If not, why? Technique of an Ostrich? No, I am adopting the patience of an owl. You are going about in circle saying the same thing. That I know nothing and you are an all encompassing bundle of wisdom. I bow to thee. It is better we leave this here as I have nothing more to add and you have no patience to listen. As I said, let us leave it at that and call it done. Good luck, friend. Stay happy, stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: Yeah. correcte. Anna igo...ilaaanti teachersss masthu mandiri unaaaru....edho teachers gurunchi chepaav ga... Wineee shop daggara line la nilabadatam....sulabhh complexesss clean cheyataam...aha oho...brahmaandam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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