Raven_Rayes Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: mee point ardham ayindhi...but ee working classes and masses ni choopinchey kadha....pedha udyamaalu chesi ...yaagi chesindhi....maa udyogaalu dochukuntunaaru ani...be it in saaambaaarr land , maraathiii ....kannadaaa....teluguu etc...labour migrationnn kooda ilaanti language barriers valla chaala problems face chesthaaaru....example...Mahaarastraaa lo even the labour jobs...chinnaa chinna carts paina fruits ammukuney vallani kooda sraava kodathaaaru if they are not from maraathii speaking groupss...especiallly bihaaarisss and UPssss ni....bhayyaaa logonn ko bagauuu anattu... MNC's la kooda ee divisive politricss challa untai especially in Indian Mnc's...chennaaii and maharasthraa ala ayithey even MNC's la koodaa samee languagee peoplee ey untaaaru... ee jobss perspective la working people involved ey kadhaa... kaadhu. adhey chepthunna. working class movements transcend language, gender, region, caste, religion. All workers everywhere are the same for them. working class movements goal is to achieve free flow of labour, just like there is free flow of capital. None of the mass movements you refer to are leftist movements. DK was not leftist. at best its a reactionary movement against brahminism, that later incorporated some leftist ideas to stay relevant.. Marathi identity as a political movement is taken forward by Shiv Sena which is not leftist too. In Karnataka, kannada language chauvinism is leveraged by BJP which is a national rw party. this is all just flex. pointless politics. On the other hand, original TG movement in 1940s was leftist. It invited and inspired fighters from Andhra, Madras, Maratha etc. Not the current one that got separate TG state. That is again a right wing caste power grab. when we use 'language' as the endgoal for our politics, it's always going to end up oppressing the most vulnerable. All those big managers in MNCs wont feel the heat. the poor pani puri seller from bihar will. ivory tower koorchoni ila chethha matladithey, adhey final result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: ee jobss perspective la working people involved ey kadhaa... right wing movements esey biscuit adhi. to some sections of the working class. identity ni rechha gotti, vaallaki biscuit eyyatam. KCR chesnattu. DMK chesnattu. working people don't control that movement. It is controlled by some smart behind the scenes players like karunanidhi, who are forever trying to balance the ecosystem that allows him to remain in power. it may give some short term benefits, but its not a workers movement. true workers movement will not shut out workers from other regions, languages, nations, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThupaki Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said: right wing movements esey biscuit adhi. to some sections of the working class. identity ni rechha gotti, vaallaki biscuit eyyatam. KCR chesnattu. DMK chesnattu. working people don't control that movement. It is controlled by some smart behind the scenes players like karunanidhi, who are forever trying to balance the ecosystem that allows him to remain in power. it may give some short term benefits, but its not a workers movement. true workers movement will not shut out workers from other regions, languages, nations, etc. give one example of it in india Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: give one example of it in india adhey chepthunna anna. India lo ledhu alaanti mass movement ani. small level lo chaala areas lo jarigindhi.. like in bihar, jharkhand, naxal movement, bengal to some extent. langauge addam pettukoni, northie adhi chesadu, tamilodu idhi chesadu ani cheppukovatam total waste. aa tweet replies choodu, akkada northies kante telugollani, tamilollani 10guthunnaru. because everyone is doing it. not just northies. how can this lead to a fruitful discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, RedThupaki said: give one example of it in india India lo worker movements were all crushed by either Congress, or any other identity based party. Mumbai was the hotbed of Industrial worker unions, until Shiv Sena was created to destroy it. Then Shiv Sena branched out to beating Tamils, Kannadigas anuko. but their biggest contribution to Mumbai was destruction of worker unions backed by the left. DMK destroyed leftist activism in TamilNadu. Laloo Yadav had a big hand in destroying communist movement in Bihar, even helping BJP in the process. All of them have one common theme.. majority community moving fast to kill people's movements. workers movements. daaniki Tamil thopu, marathi thopu, telugu thopu ani cheppukovatam enduku see, I have no particular affection to workers movements. They are seriously flawed, and they don't actually achieve their stated aims anywhere. But language based politics is even worse. TS indulges in that, while pretending like he loves communists. Anything other than a worker's movement helps only the bosses. TS is an asshole who fakes love for 'workers', while speaking the language of the bosses. I'm a modern man, who understands that parochialism has no place in the world. I have the dream of a communist world, but without the worker's revolution. I want a market revolution. where people are free to sell their goods and labour without any restrictions. I also understand that it is not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andhra_jp Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 languages and slangs meeda prema vunna vallani chustee navvu vastundi as history telusuluntee all languages eventually derived from egypitian hieroglyphs... inka matladitee african languages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, andhra_jp said: languages and slangs meeda prema vunna vallani chustee navvu vastundi as history telusuluntee all languages eventually derived from egypitian hieroglyphs... inka matladitee african languages... prema undachu. but adhi prema ni daati hate avthondi. prema untey, sahityam enjoy chey. pakkanodi vere language meedha visham kakkatam enduku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Telugodura456 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: akkada Telangana vaallu idhey reason chepparu anuko, mana Telugodura ki top lechipoddi. he'll start accusing them of being brahmin, anti-kamma whatever. kannada vaallaki oka nyayam, Telangana vaallaki oka nyayam. endukante Telugu ento decide chesey full powers only oka section ki maatramey undhi.. daanlo difference of opinion undey chance aey ledhu. you are ofcourse brahminical. Your posts are exactly like what i see the tamil brahmins in my IIT whatsapp groups. May of them welathy beyong imaginations but if they find some other caste or agricultural caste build a building in bangalore then raktha kannille for them with jealousy. Just like you shamelessy crying "chaduvuleni DADDAMMALU" building a 10 crore building. The statement shows what an elitist cunt you are. The thing is you are neither a brahmin nor a white guy but you spout their BS like a loyal lapdog. Thats what disgusts the crap out of me when i see you spreading your $hit here. Its a a weird combination of self hate/servility masquerading as something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: India lo worker movements were all crushed by either Congress, or any other identity based party. Mumbai was the hotbed of Industrial worker unions, until Shiv Sena was created to destroy it. Then Shiv Sena branched out to beating Tamils, Kannadigas anuko. but their biggest contribution to Mumbai was destruction of worker unions backed by the left. DMK destroyed leftist activism in TamilNadu. Laloo Yadav had a big hand in destroying communist movement in Bihar, even helping BJP in the process. All of them have one common theme.. majority community moving fast to kill people's movements. workers movements. daaniki Tamil thopu, marathi thopu, telugu thopu ani cheppukovatam enduku see, I have no particular affection to workers movements. They are seriously flawed, and they don't actually achieve their stated aims anywhere. But language based politics is even worse. TS indulges in that, while pretending like he loves communists. Anything other than a worker's movement helps only the bosses. TS is an asshole who fakes love for 'workers', while speaking the language of the bosses. I'm a modern man, who understands that parochialism has no place in the world. I have the dream of a communist world, but without the worker's revolution. I want a market revolution. where people are free to sell their goods and labour without any restrictions. I also understand that it is not gonna happen. DMK/SS all work for delhi based parties. The real rougue here is Delhi and the read snakeheads are congress and RSS. without them there is no way DMK or SS would do this things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 As usual the scoundrell narsi @Raven_Rayes and immoral halwa @Android__Halwa came here to remove all context and make this as fight between two language groups. In reality this is law backed imposition of hindi supremacy on the population. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Telugodura456 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Telugodura456 said: As per the self hating elitist lapdog scum narsi @Raven_Rayes this oridanry lady is DMK and TDP "demon" and he will spread all sorts of rumous on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Telugodura456 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Telugodura456 said: Yemundhiva - nesuko hindi like a good slave antunna @Android__Halwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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