Ponniyin Selvan Characters & Trailer Explained ...

[Raven_Rayes]

46 minutes ago, gothamprince said:

trisha darling mindblowing kada

 

Just now, dasari4kntr said:

I heard good reviews about her role…congrats…

her jewellery was amazing. and the costume design overall. couple of mass scenes. thats all.

 

[dasari4kntr]

Just now, Raven_Rayes said:

 

her jewellery was amazing. and the costume design overall. couple of mass scenes. thats all.

 

I heard there is standoff between Trish and aishwarya rai…which is good…

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

I heard there is standoff between Trish and aishwarya rai…which is good…

it was okay.  a regular watcher won't notice the intricacies in most of the scenes, but they are staged very well. none of the scenes are over the top as in bahubali when all the screaming makes you notice it. In this movie, none of the royals even raise their voice, except Vikram.

Trisha, Aishwarya faceoff is good only if you notice Trisha stalling the meet with some bs questions to her prime minister while walking slowly and Aish waiting for her to walk towards her. The delaying is deliberate from both ends, a show of power and its not as obvious as the facial contortions from Ramya Krishna and Anushka in Baahubali.

I would say the scene is staged well, but for some reason doesn't land, may be because of the below par acting, or the way it was conceived visually by mani. I don't know.

Trisha's best scene is her straight up walking into a mini conference of chieftains where they are planning to overthrow the current king, and completely outwit her granduncle in a couple mins with her utterence. next min she's walking away with her friend who's giggling at how she made a bunch of old men, fools with her false promises.

the movie is neither good nor bad. but it could've been way way worse.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

14 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

I heard there is standoff between Trish and aishwarya rai…which is good…

I want to say that its a bad film... but thank god for mani not going the Bahubali route.

if anything, the movie is the anti-bahubali. 99% of the time the camera stays a couple of feet away from the action and almost never pans out. no grand entries, no long shots etc.

perfect for showing drama. the art work in the movie is nothing short of amazing too.

[gothamprince]

8 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

I heard there is standoff between Trish and aishwarya rai…which is good…

naku baga nachindi ba , both expressed with their eyes , inka karthi tho boat scene kuda superb inka court scene arachakam

[hunkyfunky2]

On 9/9/2022 at 10:28 AM, Starblazer said:

veellaki marketing teliyatledu... edo movie teesi audience mohana kodithe vaalle chustharu annattu vadilesaru. character intro videos animation & voice narration tho anni languages lo release chesthe audience konchem connect ayye vaallu. forgotten/ignored history ani oka refresher laaga evaina promos cheyyalsindi. they refuse to upgrade to current generation. ila aithe assam lo farm house kattukovatam better.

I said this somewhere else.. instead of introducing characters in trailer, they should have released them as 20 second snippets for each - do this for months- bribe few big channels and they will make sure their audience saw all of them.

Then release trailer at pan India level and people will connect - enact the intros on stage with grand setting on release event - think what SSR would have done 

[dasari4kntr]

32 minutes ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

I said this somewhere else.. instead of introducing characters in trailer, they should have released them as 20 second snippets for each - do this for months- bribe few big channels and they will make sure their audience saw all of them.

Then release trailer at pan India level and people will connect - enact the intros on stage with grand setting on release event - think what SSR would have done 

Just like how sukumar released pushpa character posters…

yup…good point…

[Raven_Rayes]

1 hour ago, dasari4kntr said:

Just like how sukumar released pushpa character posters…

yup…good point…

That would've made no difference for people who are expecting grand action in the movie.

It is not possible to introduce all characters. It's not the characters that are confusing (50% of them are left off in the movie) but the interplay between the characters. The drama. 

There's a reason Rajamouli didn't make this film, since the source material came into public domain 10yrs ago and there's nothing to stop him or anyone from making it. 

He didn't make it because he realised he couldn't make a movie out of it. He's somewhat good at coming up with some cool action sequences but absolutely sucks at drama. 

Mani sucks at drama too, but for some reason took a huge gamble of making the movie and made it. Even if it's not a great movie.

[Raven_Rayes]

2 hours ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

I said this somewhere else.. instead of introducing characters in trailer, they should have released them as 20 second snippets for each - do this for months- bribe few big channels and they will make sure their audience saw all of them.

Then release trailer at pan India level and people will connect - enact the intros on stage with grand setting on release event - think what SSR would have done 

The movie is already a humongous hit. just like brahmastra - another movie you were sure won't do well.

proves films don't have to be good to become hits, just a section of audience to connecting to it is enough.

so now to be having discussions about how it should've been promoted is pointless. Mani was never aiming for bahubali type of collections. he made 2 movies with a budget of 245cr... less than half of what it took to make bahubali.

just the movie doing well in traditional tamil markets was enough. It was not made to entice the telugu audience or Hindi audience. obvious from the low price it was sold in other markets, without any hungama.

just enjoy the movie if you can, and try not to talk about its economics. may be its time you stopped predicting a success of a movie based on your instincts. clearly they are not able to accurately model reality.

also the movie world doesn't revolve around catering to avg telugu audience taste. there's a bigger world out there, with appetite to watch films that don't look like bahubali or rrr.

[hunkyfunky2]

It made peanuts in Telugu and very less in Hindi.. 2 huge markets ignored just because they don't know how to market it.... It would have made double of that it did already - there are no other biggies and 3rd grade product like godfather is minting money ...

 

[dasari4kntr]

5 minutes ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

It made peanuts in Telugu and very less in Hindi.. 2 huge markets ignored just because they don't know how to market it.... It would have made double of that it did already - there are no other biggies and 3rd grade product like godfather is minting money ...

 

Bro..why we have to worry about collections…it’s not coming to our pockets…

we can troll or debate about story , direction and actors performance…because we are paying ticket price to watch it so if it didn’t reach our expectations so we have full right to criticize the film…

but debating on overall collections and comparing with other movie collections doesn’t make sense to me..

[hunkyfunky2]

16 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

Bro..why we have to worry about collections…it’s not coming to our pockets…

we can troll or debate about story , direction and actors performance…because we are paying ticket price to watch it so if it didn’t reach our expectations so we have full right to criticize the film…

but debating on overall collections and comparing with other movie collections doesn’t make sense to me..

Agree...

Tamil are blaming Telugu people for not encouraging their movie ... This is my reply....

How to market a movie and prepare the audience is as important as making movie. 

People may hate me , but SSR is one step above all... Starting from eega , maryada ramanna. For the latter, though a copied movie he prepared audience in audio function itself... By creating a set on stage and enacting a long skit about the central theme. So when audience watched , they know what's coming but also accepted the central conflict point - which is silly. Movie would have bombed if that didn't happen . 

Adipurush has many issues, but they would have prepared all with individual looks - so it's not a big shock. 

 

[dasari4kntr]

@Raven_Rayes @hunkyfunky2

Listen to this review…very good points …unbiased…

 

[dasari4kntr]

14 minutes ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

Agree...

Tamil are blaming Telugu people for not encouraging their movie ... This is my reply....

How to market a movie and prepare the audience is as important as making movie. 

People may hate me , but SSR is one step above all... Starting from eega , maryada ramanna. For the latter, though a copied movie he prepared audience in audio function itself... By creating a set on stage and enacting a long skit about the central theme. So when audience watched , they know what's coming but also accepted the central conflict point - which is silly. Movie would have bombed if that didn't happen . 

Adipurush has many issues, but they would have prepared all with individual looks - so it's not a big shock. 

 

Agree about character introduction…many has same opinion…

 

and most of the telugu people also encouraged this movie…even though they know little about chola history…

from your comment…

Tamil are blaming Telugu people for not encouraging their movie

Tamil people means not all Tamil people some section of Tamil…in the same way Telugu people means some section of Telugu…not all…

[Raven_Rayes]

13 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

@Raven_Rayes @hunkyfunky2

Listen to this review…very good points …unbiased…

 

that's the thing dude. I don't review a movie or listen to reviews.

there are very few reviewers (none I know in Telugu) who actually try to explain a maker's work, which I think is the job of a reviewer. Not to pass judgement on a film.

one is free to like or hate a film and mock it or praise it, but it requires a keen eye and ability to dissect an artist's vision in a way that is accessible to lay audience.

does ps1 deserve that kind of review? I don't know. Its up to the reviewer to decide whether it deserves it or not. To me, I've clearly said that I don't think its a good film, but I still enjoyed it. Max I can point to areas where the visuals were underwhelming, especially night shots were below par, and scenes were vfx used didnt gel well with the overall visual tone in the film. some major bloopers like the scene where Karthi is secretly observing a palace meeting, yet his face is brightly lit.. the scene were aishwarya is first shown that has really bad pov shot with karthi standing outside in bright sunshine appearing darker than aishwarya who's behind the curtain. some of these scenes really irritated me. that's the best I can go while describing the film.

a reviewer should do something extraordinary, to catch things I didn't and explain to me the staging of a scene and how it fits with the rest of the movie etc.

so can you pls tell me if the 90min review you posted touches on any of the things I expect from a review? otherwise its a waste of time listening to people ranting about how characters weren't explained properly, or how the pacing wasn't good, or how there weren't any high points.

movies don't need high points or a central theme or anything. movies like any art has no boundaries or structure. Its upto the reviewer to give it structure and present it to the lay audience.

to me movie is art. is ps1 good art? no. but I'm not qualified or interested to do a deep dive into why it is not. people who are obsessed with maniratnam will. I will only listen to their reviews.