India trade deficit with china historical high

[Raven_Rayes]

1 hour ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

But china doesn't want anyone in their IT services field , they are extremely protectionist 

Then India should run a huge deficit and start buying from local suppliers to distribute to people, or have companies run by the state itself to push cheap goods to compete with China in the world market.

there's no other way. all this love for India means nothing if I have to choose between buying a lenovo laptop and an Indian made one. lenovo got there with extreme state support (even before its IBM acquisition).

who is India's lenovo? Micromax? lmao. they are not even local market leaders.

[Raven_Rayes]

bunch of foreign companies operating out of Chennai and elsewhere shooting up electronics exports means nothing. They will always import components from China.

[Ryzen_renoir]

3 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Then India should run a huge deficit and start buying from local suppliers to distribute to people, or have companies run by the state itself to push cheap goods to compete with China in the world market.

there's no other way. all this love for India means nothing if I have to choose between buying a lenovo laptop and an Indian made one. lenovo got there with extreme state support (even before its IBM acquisition).

who is India's lenovo? Micromax? lmao. they are not even local market leaders.

It's not happening without bending backwards to US/EU interests like Vietnam and even Bangladesh do

US doesn't want another china , they won't repeat the same mistake when they proposed up chinese economy to destroy the Soviets 

India has one window of oppurtunity , if china attacks taiwan . That is the only possible event that can propel indian manufacturing , otherwise it will be just another protectionist medicore industry serving domestic market 

[Raven_Rayes]

3 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

It's not happening without bending backwards to US/EU interests like Vietnam and even Bangladesh do

US doesn't want another china , they won't repeat the same mistake when they proposed up chinese economy to destroy the Soviets 

India has one window of oppurtunity , if china attacks taiwan . That is the only possible event that can propel indian manufacturing , otherwise it will be just another protectionist medicore industry serving domestic market 

anything can happen. But I doubt Indians will be quick to take advantage of it.

[Raven_Rayes]

6 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

It's not happening without bending backwards to US/EU interests like Vietnam and even Bangladesh do

US doesn't want another china , they won't repeat the same mistake when they proposed up chinese economy to destroy the Soviets 

I don't think it was a conscious decision to prop up China. USSR was already in the dust by the time China went on its huge expansion.

US companies found China attractive because of the price and quality of their products, and most importantly the timely delivery (which India lacks even now in electronics sector).

US govt only recently woke up to 'china danger' after Trump decided to use that to prop up his image, and after bunch of US companies started crying about copying of IP. US was being a crybaby here. Ofcourse your designs will be replicated by the locals if you use them to design your stuff.. lmao.

India or no other country is not even in the same scale of what China offers US still.

[Ryzen_renoir]

26 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I don't think it was a conscious decision to prop up China. USSR was already in the dust by the time China went on its huge expansion.

US companies found China attractive because of the price and quality of their products, and most importantly the timely delivery (which India lacks even now in electronics sector).

US govt only recently woke up to 'china danger' after Trump decided to use that to prop up his image, and after bunch of US companies started crying about copying of IP. US was being a crybaby here. Ofcourse your designs will be replicated by the locals if you use them to design your stuff.. lmao.

India or no other country is not even in the same scale of what China offers US still.

True , the only way to replicate some of chinese stuff is to abolish all rules like the IT industry doesn't have any regulations in india

Basically india needs separate zones without indian laws and a separate  but credible judiciary system 

But i doubt indian politicians , industrialists and most importantly bueracracy will let their control slip away 

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[Raven_Rayes]

5 hours ago, rushmore said:

India govt  should have addressed this issue back in 2000 by doing infrastructure development including establishment of multiple central universities in every state with affordable fees. Concentrating on public health by building more hospitals without giving anything for free. Population control measures in the last 20 years would have helped India tackle its job market & economy. But every govt since 2000 not only failed to address these issues but also made system much worse. 

People who studied in IITs, NITs, AIIMS etc., most of them already went abroad. People who are some what capable of learning & replicating concepts practically are also going out. Those who are still left here might also follow the same path sooner or later given their family responsibilities. Only scrap will be left in few years whom nobody wants. Worst is yet to come.

India can still address this. but does it want to?

there's no such thing as 'scrap'. even if all the smart people move out of India, India can do well.

Its better if smart people who are against reservations move out of India, in fact. India doesn't need pieces of sh1t like that. poor people are wasting their time and a lot of productive energy working for these pieces of sh1t, when they can do better at factories making stuff that the world wants for a much higher salary.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

5 hours ago, rushmore said:

Population control measures in the last 20 years would have helped India tackle its job market & economy.

only one population control measure. educating women, and providing access to their overall health. that one thing is enough to control population.

and India seems to in the process of slowly achieving it. Even Bihar is trending towards <2 fertility rates. Its a matter of time.

problem with India is educated worthless pieces of sh1ts like in this db.

[Ryzen_renoir]

5 hours ago, rushmore said:

India govt  should have addressed this issue back in 2000 by doing infrastructure development including establishment of multiple central universities in every state with affordable fees. Concentrating on public health by building more hospitals without giving anything for free. Population control measures in the last 20 years would have helped India tackle its job market & economy. But every govt since 2000 not only failed to address these issues but also made system much worse. 

People who studied in IITs, NITs, AIIMS etc., most of them already went abroad. People who are some what capable of learning & replicating concepts practically are also going out. Those who are still left here might also follow the same path sooner or later given their family responsibilities. Only scrap will be left in few years whom nobody wants. Worst is yet to come.

India punishes those who suceed and rewards scrap those who contribute little like the govt employees 

India's destiny is to be a medicore nation , it won't be a failure but with current setup it will never be successful nation 

 

[Ryzen_renoir]

40 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

only one population control measure. educating women, and providing access to their overall health. that one thing is enough to control population.

and India seems to in the process of slowly achieving it. Even Bihar is trending towards <2 fertility rates. Its a matter of time.

problem with India is educated worthless pieces of sh1ts like in this db.

So called educated population are also medicore scrap that want govt jobs , free stuff every month , infact the most castesit fellows are educated as we are seeing Telugu people in USA 

Education has only strengthened castesim , religious zealotry in India 

[Raven_Rayes]

16 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

So called educated population are also medicore scrap that want govt jobs , free stuff every month , infact the most castesit fellows are educated as we are seeing Telugu people in USA 

Education has only strengthened castesim , religious zealotry in India 

women's education will have a desirable side effect of them being able to put off their wedding until a more convenient time, and say 'no' to their husbands when they don't wanna have kids. purely from a population control standpoint. its the most effective tool.

[Telugodura456]

9 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

It's not happening without bending backwards to US/EU interests like Vietnam and even Bangladesh do

India has one window of oppurtunity , if china attacks taiwan . That is the only possible event that can propel indian manufacturing , otherwise it will be just another protectionist medicore industry serving domestic market 

LOL ..so this is the latest sanghi pipedream. corona vacchinappudu - inka china pani aipoindhi. India will be china plus one antu chala cinema choopincharu ?

what is vietnam bending backwards ? do you actually read about any of the stuff ?

[Telugodura456]

1 hour ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

So called educated population are also medicore scrap that want govt jobs , free stuff every month , infact the most castesit fellows are educated as we are seeing Telugu people in USA 

Education has only strengthened castesim , religious zealotry in India 

are you not the best example of such "education". I mean look at you - you want ap to split in to as many pieces as you can care. 

ap which is made up of people who speak your language, gothram , your relatives - where you will be accepted as alludu or what not.

But you keep dreaming of india which is made up of mizos, assamese, biharis gatra.

What do you even share with them? your probably ate more chinese noodles than paratha. Know far more english than hihndi.

[Raven_Rayes]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

are you not the best example of such "education". I mean look at you - you want ap to split in to as many pieces as you can care. 

ap which is made up of people who speak your language, gothram , your relatives - where you will be accepted as alludu or what not.

But you keep dreaming of india which is made up of mizos, assamese, biharis gatra.

What do you even share with them? your probably ate more chinese noodles than paratha. Know far more english than hihndi.

yes he is. so am I. and so are you and everyone in this db.

unless they are actually making and exporting hitech products to the world, they are a waste of space for India. only consuming resources and farting out methane.