In karnataka brahmins threaten against extending EWS reservations to other castes

[Telugodura456]

Just 4 percent of population in karnataka gets 10 percent EWS.

Karnataka: Brahmins Threaten Stir Against Inclusion of Vokkaligas, Lingayats in EWS Category

https://thewire.in/caste/karnataka-brahmin-vokkaligas-lingayats-ews

[Telugodura456]

so which is the bigger problem - caste or reservation. @Android_Halwa @JackSeal @RSUCHOU

[JackSeal]

58 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Just 4 percent of population in karnataka gets 10 percent EWS.

Karnataka: Brahmins Threaten Stir Against Inclusion of Vokkaligas, Lingayats in EWS Category

https://thewire.in/caste/karnataka-brahmin-vokkaligas-lingayats-ews

EWS for all general category based on income limit kada… why pilkas have a problem ?

[Mancode]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

Just 4 percent of population in karnataka gets 10 percent EWS.

Karnataka: Brahmins Threaten Stir Against Inclusion of Vokkaligas, Lingayats in EWS Category

https://thewire.in/caste/karnataka-brahmin-vokkaligas-lingayats-ews

vokkaligas , lingayats have their own OBC quotas , why they come up and create mess again in EWS quota

[Mancode]

I support brahmins here, i support what i feel is genuine

[JackSeal]

5 minutes ago, Mancode said:

vokkaligas , lingayats have their own OBC quotas , why they come up and create mess again in EWS quota

Lingayats have different subcastes and not all subcastes have OBC reservations… just like kapus in AP some  kapus are OC some are OBCs

[JackSeal]

9 minutes ago, Mancode said:

vokkaligas , lingayats have their own OBC quotas , why they come up and create mess again in EWS quota

10% reservation under EWS category is applicable to those persons who are not covered under the existing scheme of reservations for the Scheduled Castes, the Scheduled Tribes and the Socially and Educationally Backward Classes.

[Mancode]

6 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

Lingayats have different subcastes and not all subcastes have OBC reservations… just like kapus in AP some  kapus are OC some are OBCs

 

3 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

10% reservation under EWS category is applicable to those persons who are not covered under the existing scheme of reservations for the Scheduled Castes, the Scheduled Tribes and the Socially and Educationally Backward Classes.

Vokkaligas and Lingayats will continue to receive 4% and 5% reservations as earlier. But now, the government plans to distribute what will be left of the 10% EWS quota after distribution among communities specified under it, among the Vokkaligas and Lingayats too.

all vokkaligas and lingayats in karnataka have reservation . govt here trying to intrude into ews quota too... ews backlog quota if posts are not filled .they should be remain with ews people only , like govt does for sc/st backlog posts

[Truth_Holds]

EWS is a big joke in karnataka...4% of population getting 10% of reservation

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

so which is the bigger problem - caste or reservation. @Android_Halwa @JackSeal @RSUCHOU

Your mindset is a bigger problem.

[Mancode]

2 minutes ago, Truth_Holds said:

EWS is a big joke in karnataka...4% of population getting 10% of reservation

thats a factually incorrect number 

upper caste christians and left out muslims make 11% of population

[Mancode]

I hope bjp stop this mess and retain its core votebank by promising cm post to lingayats again and do good deals with vokkaliga mutts swamijis and couple of cabinet berths in centre to their leaders and stabilize brahmin votebank too...

 

[JackSeal]

20 minutes ago, Mancode said:

 

Vokkaligas and Lingayats will continue to receive 4% and 5% reservations as earlier. But now, the government plans to distribute what will be left of the 10% EWS quota after distribution among communities specified under it, among the Vokkaligas and Lingayats too.

all vokkaligas and lingayats in karnataka have reservation . govt here trying to intrude into ews quota too... ews backlog quota if posts are not filled .they should be remain with ews people only , like govt does for sc/st backlog posts

Simple logic by law if your caste is eligible for reservation in any category then you wont be eligible for EWS. If some lingayat subcastes are OC then they are right to claim EWS reservations 

[Mancode]

8 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

Simple logic by law if your caste is eligible for reservation in any category then you wont be eligible for EWS. If some lingayat subcastes are OC then they are right to claim EWS reservations 

by my info there are no OC lingayats in karnataka  

The two dominant communities -- Vokkaliga and Panchamasalis -- which are in 3A and 3B categories have been demanding reservations under 2A status, and the government decided to abolish 3A and 3B categories.

The government decided to create two new categories of 2C and 2D. Those in 3A and 3B would now find a place in 2C and 2D.

The petitioner argued that if other dominant communities are added to 2A, it would affect his community’s interest. “The amount of pressure mounted on the first respondent has seriously affected the morale of the people coming under Category 2-A in general and the petitioner’s caste in particular. If such powerful caste and advanced communities get entry into category 2-A, the prospects of the petitioner’s caste getting any opportunities in education, particularly professional education and getting government jobs under the reserved quota, will be seriously jeopardised,” the petition added.

 

It was further contended in the petition that in terms of the Karnataka State Commission for Backward Classes Act, 1995, the concept of “interim report” did not find mention in the statutory scheme, and hence, the ad hoc procedure now sought to be followed to notify sub-sect of Veerashaiva-Lingayat community in Category 2A was impermissible in law.

The petitioner also pointed out that in 2000, KSCBC had rejected the claims by sub-groups of Lingayats for their inclusion in Category 2A.

In the recently concluded winter session of the state assembly in Belagavi, the government announced the creation of two new categories: 2C and 2D, to include the Lingayats and Vokkaligas in the reservations. Since the announcement, the Panchamasali caste of the Lingayats has been demanding inclusion in the 2A category.

 

The Panchamasalis are the largest group within the powerful Lingayat umbrella in Karnataka and have been asking for an increased proportion of OBC reservations. The Lingayat — a community that boasts current BJP chief minister Basavaraj Bommai and his predecessor BS Yediyurappa among its tallest leaders — form at least 18% of the state’s population, and Panchamasalis are over half that number. Panchamasalis, a peasant community, have often argued that despite their numerical superiority, other subsects of the Lingayats have received more state attention and have turned powerful, sparking anger within the community.

Panchamasalis are categorised in the newly created 2D subdivision under the backward class (BC) category, while they have been demanding inclusion in the 2A subdivision, which is categorised as “more backwards” and offers 15% reservation in education and employment.

 

“We have already rejected the government’s decision to give us a reservation under section 2D. We welcome the high court’s stay. Our protest will continue till the government gives us a reservation under 2A. We will hold a protest outside Chief Minister’s home in Shiggaon. After that protest following the consultation with the community members, further action will be taken,” said Jaya Mrutyhyunjaya Swami of the Panchamasali Peeta, who is opposed to the current reservation announced by the government.

Meanwhile, two groups within the Pachamasali community are divided over the Karnataka government’s decision on reservation for the Lingayat sub-sect. The disagreement has been fuelled by the feud between large and medium-scale industries minister Murgesh Nirani and Vijayapura city MLA and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader Basangouda Patil Yatnal, community leaders in the know of the developments said.

 

here govt trying to abolish specific classes in OBC and trying to move lingayats to another class, then they have to do it in that OBC quota itself , by increasing OBC reservation percentage or creating new group , but should not create quota within quota in EWS 

if ike u said there are lingayats and vokkaligas who left out from reservation , they are happy to compete in EWS quota but no divisions in it

[Mancode]

population ekkuva unaru  kadha ani unreasonanable demands cheyakudadhu ......govt kuda ilantivi pattinchukokudadhu , move forward with welfare and development agenda., hindutva ...its enough to win elections

@Higher_Purpose emantav?