Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said: Owaisi has always been a indu hater. Musalmaans have no choice but to support him thinking he safeguards them. I wish more leaders like amanullah khan emerg who was beloved by both indus and musalmaaan's. He worked for the development of constituency and never indulged in religion based politics. entire Hindu middle class (by and large) are muslim haters if you use that as standard. muslims have no choice because every other party wants to kill them. Owaisi atleast doesn't want to. aah amanullah vachina, Hindus will find some reason to hate him the moment he starts talking about muslim rights. don't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Telugodura456 said: religionism is better than casteism. This anand (b batch) - talking about tewari (another b fellow) is far worser problem really. రా రా భట్టు రా నీ గురించే మాట్లాడుకుంటున్నారు! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, veerigadu said: You can try but you won’t succeed. Radical thurak is a global threat. They breed voilence and it is a very destructive ideology. I think our cassette discussions are mere dust when we compare it to that kind of issue. You take a pill now. all religions have destructive ideologies. Nothing specific to Islam. why are you making 3rd grade level arguments? yeah its obvious you think caste discussions are nothing, because you are the same asshole who declared that he was proud to be reddy, and then called me mala or madiga (of which I'm neither). are you a hypocrite or just a clueless loser who can't remember what he said two minutes earlier? stop making grand pronouncements as if you understand everything. being a reddy is nothing special. It doesn't actually give you any insight into human behaviour without you actually interacting with people for a lifetime. stupidass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Telugodura456 said: religionism is better than casteism. This anand (b batch) - talking about tewari (another b fellow) is far worser problem really. this tamil brahmin asshole, along with another tambram asshole that joined the ranks recently sai deepak or some sh1t are feeding generations of Indian kids utter crap in the form of analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 12 hours ago, veerigadu said: He hates bapanese to the core. I don’t know what kind of experiences he had. But seems like scars are still raw and unhinged. I don't know what kind of money you made, or social standing you have, to have gotten this kind of empty confidence on everything. or do you sit at home with a reddy celebrity photo on your laptop and allow yourself to swell with pride over someone else's achievements? lmao what a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, veerigadu said: You can try but you won’t succeed. Radical thurak is a global threat. They breed voilence and it is a very destructive ideology. I think our cassette discussions are mere dust when we compare it to that kind of issue. You take a pill now. says who, dumbfcuk? which country in the west has now declared that radical islam is a threat? US top threat is white nationalism. Europe top threat is Russian nationalism. so where is this 'global threat' coming from? out of your own ar$e? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Tryad said: entire Hindu middle class (by and large) are muslim haters if you use that as standard. muslims have no choice because every other party wants to kill them. Owaisi atleast doesn't want to. aah amanullah vachina, Hindus will find some reason to hate him the moment he starts talking about muslim rights. don't worry. Everything changed after 1991 communal rights which were done for political gains. There was no enmity between Hindus and Muslims before that. Trust needs to be built between these two communities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryad Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Konebhar6 said: Everything changed after 1991 communal rights which were done for political gains. There was no enmity between Hindus and Muslims before that. Trust needs to be built between these two communities. for that Hindus also have to walk half of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said: Everything changed after 1991 communal rights which were done for political gains. There was no enmity between Hindus and Muslims before that. Trust needs to be built between these two communities. అసలు భారత దేశ చరిత్ర ఏనాడైనా చదివా నువ్వు? ఎంత మూర్ఖం గా ఉన్నారో ప్రజలు! Partition of Bengal (1905) The British colonial era, since the 18th century, portrayed and treated Hindus and Muslims as two divided groups, both in cultural terms and for the purposes of governance. The British favoured Muslims in the early period of colonial rule to gain influence in Mughal India, but underwent a shift in policies after the 1857 rebellion. A series of religious riots in the late 19th century, such as those of 1891, 1896 and 1897 religious riots of Calcutta, raised concerns within British Raj. The rising political movement for independence of India, and colonial government's administrative strategies to neutralize it, pressed the British to make the first attempt to partition the most populous province of India, Bengal. Bengal was partitioned by the British colonial government, in 1905, along religious lines—a Muslim majority state of East Bengal and a Hindu majority state of West Bengal. The partition was deeply resented, seen by both groups as evidence of British favoritism to the other side. Waves of religious riots hit Bengal through 1907. The religious violence worsened, and the partition was reversed in 1911. The reversal did little to calm the religious violence in India, and Bengal alone witnessed at least nine violent riots, between Muslims and Hindus, in the 1910s through the 1930s. Malabar rebellion (1921) Moplah Rebellion was an Anti Jenmi rebellion conducted by the Muslim Moplah (Mappila) community of Kerala in 1921. Inspired by the Khilafat movement and the Karachi resolution; Moplahs murdered, pillaged, and forcibly converted thousands of Hindus.[41][42] 100,000 Hindus[43] were driven away from their homes forcing to leave their property behind, which were later taken over by Moplahs. This greatly changed the demographics of the area, being the major cause behind today's Malappuram district being a Muslim majority district in Kerala.[44] According to one view, the reasons for the Moplah rebellion was religious revivalism among the Muslim Moplahs, and hostility towards the landlord Hindu Nair, Nambudiri Jenmi community and the British administration that supported the latter. Adhering to view, British records call it a British-Muslim revolt. The initial focus was on the government, but when the limited presence of the government was eliminated, Moplahs turned their full attention on attacking Hindus. Mohommed Haji was proclaimed the Caliph of the Moplah Khilafat and flags of Islamic Caliphate were flown. Ernad and Walluvanad were declared Khilafat kingdoms. Partition of British India (1947) Direct Action Day, which started on 16 August 1946, left approximately 3,000 Hindus dead and 17,000 injured. After the Indian Rebellion of 1857, the British colonial government followed a divide-and-rule policy, exploiting existing differences between communities, to prevent similar revolts from taking place. In that respect, Indian Muslims were encouraged to forge a cultural and political identity separate from the Hindus.[47] In the years leading up to Independence, Mohammad Ali Jinnah became increasingly concerned about minority position of Islam in an independent India largely composed of a Hindu majority.[48] Although a partition plan was accepted, no large population movements were contemplated. As India and Pakistan become independent, 14.5 million people crossed borders to ensure their safety in an increasingly lawless and communal environment. With British authority gone, the newly formed governments were completely unequipped to deal with migrations of such staggering magnitude, and massive violence and slaughter occurred on both sides of the border along communal lines. Estimates of the number of deaths range around roughly 500,000, with low estimates at 200,000 and high estimates at one million. Modern India Partition of India Large-scale religious violence and riots have periodically occurred in India since its independence from British colonial rule. The aftermath of the Partition of India in 1947 to create a separate Islamic state of Pakistan for Muslims, saw large scale sectarian strife and bloodshed throughout the nation. According to Government of India's estimates, Around 80 lakh Hindus and Sikhs have moved from Pakistan to India and around 75 lakh Muslims have moved from India to Pakistan as refugees. An estimated 1 million people have been killed in the violence. Since then, India has witnessed sporadic large-scale violence sparked by underlying tensions between sections of the Hindu and Muslim communities.[49] These conflicts also stem from the ideologies of hardline right-wing groups versus Islamic Fundamentalists and prevalent in certain sections of the population. Since independence, India has always maintained a constitutional commitment to secularism. The major incidences include the 1969 Gujarat riots, 1984 anti-Sikh riots, the 1989 Bhagalpur riots, 1989 Kashmir violence, Godhra train burning, 2002 Gujarat riots, 2013 Muzaffarnagar riots and 2020 Delhi riots. Gujarat communal riots (1969) Main article: 1969 Gujarat riots Religious violence broke out between Hindus and Muslims during September–October 1969, in Gujarat.[50] It was the most deadly Hindu-Muslim violence since the 1947 partition of India.[51][52] The violence included attacks on Muslim chawls by their Dalit neighbours.[52] The violence continued over a week, then the rioting restarted a month later.[53][54] Some 660 people were killed (430 Muslims, 230 Hindus), 1074 people were injured and over 48,000 lost their property.[52][55] Anti-Sikh riots (1984) Main article: 1984 anti-Sikh riots In the 1970s, Sikhs in Punjab had sought autonomy and complained about domination by the Hindu.[56] Indira Gandhi government arrested thousands of Sikhs for their opposition and demands particularly during Indian Emergency.[56][57] In Indira Gandhi's attempt to "save democracy" through the Emergency, India's constitution was suspended, 140,000 people were arrested without due process, of which 40,000 were Sikhs.[58] After the Emergency was lifted, during elections, she supported Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, a Sikh leader, in an effort to undermine the Akali Dal, the largest Sikh political party. However, Bhindranwale began to oppose the central government and moved his political base to the Darbar Sahib (Golden temple) in Amritsar, demanding creation on Punjab as a new country.[56] In June 1984, under orders from Indira Gandhi, the Indian army attacked the Golden temple with tanks and armoured vehicles, due to the presence of Sikh Khalistanis armed with weapons inside. Thousands of Sikhs died during the attack.[56] In retaliation for the storming of the Golden temple, Indira Gandhi was assassinated on 31 October 1984 by two Sikh bodyguards. The assassination provoked mass rioting against Sikh.[56] During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes.[59] As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.[60] The 1984 riots fueled the Sikh insurgency movement. In the peak years of the insurgency, religious violence by separatists, government-sponsored groups, and the paramilitary arms of the government was endemic on all sides. Human Rights Watch reports that separatists were responsible for "massacre of civilians, attacks upon Hindu minorities in the state, indiscriminate bomb attacks in crowded places, and the assassination of a number of political leaders".[61] Human Rights Watch also stated that the Indian Government's response "led to the arbitrary detention, torture, extrajudicial execution, and enforced disappearance of thousands of Sikhs".[61] The insurgency paralyzed Punjab's economy until peace initiatives and elections were held in the 1990s.[61] Allegations of coverup and shielding of political leaders of Indian National Congress over their role in 1984 riot crimes, have been widespread.[62][63][64] Religious involvement in North-East India militancy See also: Insurgency in Northeast India Religion has begun to play an increasing role in reinforcing ethnic divides among the decades-old militant separatist movements in north-east India.[65][66][67] The Christian separatist group National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) has proclaimed bans on Hindu worship and has attacked animist Reangs and Hindu Jamatia tribesmen in the state of Tripura. Some resisting tribal leaders have been killed and some tribal women raped.[citation needed] According to The Government of Tripura, the Baptist Church of Tripura is involved in supporting the NLFT and arrested two church officials in 2000, one of them for possessing explosives.[68] In late 2004, the National Liberation Front of Tripura banned all Hindu celebrations of Durga Puja and Saraswati Puja.[68] The Naga insurgency, militants have largely depended on their Christian ideological base for their cause.[69] Anti-Hindu violence Maddur Mosque inscription declaring that Muslims have agreed not to object to non-Muslim religious processions. There have been a number of attacks on Hindu temples and Hindus by Muslim militants and Christian evangelists. Prominent among them are the 1998 Chamba massacre, the 2002 fidayeen attacks on Raghunath temple, the 2002 Akshardham Temple attack by Islamic terrorist outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba[70] and the 2006 Varanasi bombings (also by Lashkar-e-Toiba), resulting in many deaths and injuries. Recent attacks on Hindus by Muslim mobs include Marad massacre and the Godhra train burning. In August 2000, Swami Shanti Kali, a popular Hindu priest, was shot to death inside his ashram in the Indian state of Tripura. Police reports regarding the incident identified ten members of the Christian terrorist organisation, NLFT, as being responsible for the murder. On 4 Dec 2000, nearly three months after his death, an ashram set up by Shanti Kali at Chachu Bazar near the Sidhai police station was raided by Christian militants belonging to the NLFT. Eleven of the priest's ashrams, schools, and orphanages around the state were burned down by the NLFT. In September 2008, Swami Laxmanananda, a popular regional Hindu Guru was murdered along with four of his disciples by unknown assailants (though a Maoist organisation later claimed responsibility for that[71][72]). Later the police arrested three Christians in connection with the murder.[73] Congress MP Radhakant Nayak has also been named as a suspected person in the murder, with some Hindu leaders calling for his arrest.[74] Lesser incidents of religious violence happen in many towns and villages in India. In October 2005, five people were killed in Mau in Uttar Pradesh during Muslim rioting, which was triggered by the proposed celebration of a Hindu festival.[75] On 3 and 4 January 2002, eight Hindus were killed in Marad, near Kozhikode due to scuffles between two groups that began after a dispute over drinking water.[76][77] On 2 May 2003, eight Hindus were killed by a Muslim mob, in what is believed to be a sequel to the earlier incident.[77][78] One of the attackers, Mohammed Ashker was killed during the chaos. The National Development Front (NDF), a right-wing militant Islamist organisation, was suspected as the perpetrator of the Marad massacre.[79] In the 2010 Deganga riots after hundreds of Hindu business establishments and residences were looted, destroyed and burnt, dozens of Hindus were killed or severely injured and several Hindu temples desecrated and vandalised by the Islamist mobs allegedly led by Trinamul Congress MP Haji Nurul Islam.[80] Three years later, during the 2013 Canning riots, several hundred Hindu businesses were targeted and destroyed by Islamist mobs in the Indian state of West Bengal.[81][82] Religious violence has led to the death, injuries and damage to numerous Hindus.[83][84] For example, 254 Hindus were killed in 2002 Gujarat riots out of which half were killed in police firing and rest by rioters.[85][86][87] During 1992 Bombay riots, 275 Hindus died.[88] In October, 2018, a Christian personal security officer of an additional sessions judge assassinated his 38-year-old wife and his 18-year-old son for not converting to Christianity.[89] In October 2020, a 20-year old Nikita Tomar was shot by Tausif, a Muslim, for not converting to Islam and marrying to him. Tausif was imprisoned for life.[90] Some cases of murder because of blasphemy have also taken place. Kamlesh Tiwari was murdered for his allegedly blasphemous comments on Muhammad in October 2019.[91][92] A similar case took place in Gujrat in January 2022 where Kishan Bharvad was murdered for making an allegedly blasphemous social media post on Muhammad on the directive of a Muslim cleric.[93] A Hindu man named Nagaraju was murdered by a Muslim man for marrying a Muslim woman.[94] Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus Main article: Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus In the Kashmir region, approximately 300 Kashmiri Pandits were killed between September 1989 to 1990 in various incidents.[95] In early 1990, local Urdu newspapers Aftab and Al Safa called upon Kashmiris to wage jihad against India and ordered the expulsion of all Hindus choosing to remain in Kashmir.[95] Notices were placed on the houses of all Hindus, telling them to leave within 24 hours or die.[95] Since March 1990, estimates of between 300,000 and 500,000 pandits have migrated outside Kashmir[96] due to persecution by Islamic fundamentalists in the largest case of ethnic cleansing since the partition of India.[97] Many Kashmiri Pandits have been killed by Islamist militants in incidents such as the Wandhama massacre and the 2000 Amarnath pilgrimage massacre. The incidents of massacring and forced eviction have been termed ethnic cleansing by some observers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tryad said: for that Hindus also have to walk half of the way. Absolutely. People are clouded by their pre-conceived judgements to let it happen. Politicians wont let it happen. Only way to deal with hatred is to make acquaintances, and understand others perspectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, rushmore said: అసలు భారత దేశ చరిత్ర ఏనాడైనా చదివా నువ్వు? ఎంత మూర్ఖం గా ఉన్నారో ప్రజలు! I am not an expert on the subject but I do have decent understanding. I am Hyderabad born. I lived in a community close to old city. I do not know about other cities but trust between these two religions is completely lost only after 1991. My dad (andhra Native) who moved to hyd for work had Muslim visitors/friends. All changed after riots. Relationships gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Konebhar6 said: I am not an expert on the subject but I do have decent understanding. I am Hyderabad born. I lived in a community close to old city. I do not know about other cities but trust between these two religions is completely lost only after 1991. My dad (andhra Native) who moved to hyd for work had Muslim visitors/friends. All changed after riots. Relationships gone. Also my comments were very specific to Hyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said: Also my comments were very specific to Hyd. Well, then you know how frequent the riots used to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konebhar6 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, rushmore said: Well, then you know how frequent the riots used to happen. before 1991 or after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said: before 1991 or after? before & after. Please read some old news articles first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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