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[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

telugu muslims exist outside of hyd, you know?

its news to me that telugu muslims shun telugu. ask @8pm who seems very competent in telugu.

just admit that telugu and tamil society have nothing to offer other than a ghettoized cultural experience for muslims.

for eg. imagine the outrage in both andhra and TN if news spreads of an entire village converting to Islam. language won't stop people pouring venom on them. sanghis have the right understanding of India - as a deeply regressive society that'll respond to calls to religion at the slightest nudge.

language fanatics are mostly deluding themselves if they think they can achieve such involuntary compliance.

Read again - reourceful upper caste muslims. Lower caste muslims are fcked just like lower caste hindus - where are they in film industry ?

Most fully telugu speaking muslims have no problems in andhra. For ffs when was a riot in andhra ? when were muslims killed and their women raped, their shops destroyed in andhra ? stop being so dishonest and weasel like.

[Tryad]

17 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

I think you did not get what i said.

yeah happens a lot. I only skim through what's written and fill the rest based on the caricature I have of the poster.

I lack the patience to actually engage, after having received countless arguments in bad faith.

It's however still my error. and I feel extraordinarily stupid to have typed the response that is exactly opposite to what you claimed.

[Tryad]

10 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Read again - reourceful upper caste muslims. Lower caste muslims are fcked just like lower caste hindus - where are they in film industry ?

Most fully telugu speaking muslims have no problems in andhra. For ffs when was a riot in andhra ? when were muslims killed and their women raped, their shops destroyed in andhra ? stop being so dishonest and weasel like.

are you saying its okay that lower caste muslims are fcuked because lower caste hindus are fcuked too.. and lets just blindly carry on supporting political Telugu unity as if its going to solve all these problems? lmao.

so now wer are supposed to be arguing about how graciously telugus didn't bother muslims? lmao. did you forget the part that they are telugu too? lmao.

wtf are you even saying asshole

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Read again - reourceful upper caste muslims. Lower caste muslims are fcked just like lower caste hindus - where are they in film industry ?

Most fully telugu speaking muslims have no problems in andhra. For ffs when was a riot in andhra ? when were muslims killed and their women raped, their shops destroyed in andhra ? stop being so dishonest and weasel like.

This is indeed true. If you hate caste system in practicing Hindus, wait until you find out about castes in other religions. They're so casteist that they still cling on to their castes despite changing religion.

To quote Justice Katju:

Markandey Katju

September 11, 2016 · 

A basic problem with Indian Muslims is that they are not prepared to accept the truth that while Islam preaches equality, most Indian Muslims are not prepared to give up the caste system.( see my blogs on caste among Muslims ).
The ' ashrafs ', i.e. Syeds, Sheikhs and Pathans, regard themselves as superior and look down on Ansaris ( bunkars or weavers ), Qureshis ( butchers or kasais ), Abbasis ( water carriers ), Gaddis, Darzis, Telis, etc

The higher castes ( syeds, sheikhs, pathans, etc ) may be willing to pray along with an arzal ( dalit Muslim ), but they would rather die than give their daughter or sister in marriage to an arzal, because he is inferior in their eyes..
The term "Arzal" stands for "degraded" and the Arzal castes are further subdivided into Bhanar, Halalkhor, Hijra, Kasbi, Lalbegi, Maugta, Mehtar etc .They were earlier relegated to "menial" professions such as scavenging and carrying night soil. They are mainly dalit converts
In Banda, U.P. a Muslim girl belonging to a Muslim family who were Rajput converts fell in love with a young dalit Hindu magistrate. The magistrate converted to Islam to marry the girl, but some relatives of the girl went to the magistrate and said that they will kill him if he does not keep away from the girl. They said they had changed their religion not their caste. The terrified magistrate immediately sought, and obtained, a transfer to some other city.
When some Muslims keep parroting that there is no caste in Islam, I ask one simple question : will you give your daughter or sister in marriage to an arzal ? On hearing this question they run, just as a cockroach runs when light is shone on it.
Similarly, when a Sikh tells me that among Sikhs all are equal, I ask him, will a Jat Sikh give his daughter or sister in marriage to a mazhabi ( dalit ) Sikh ? He will rather die than do that.
The same is the position among many Christians

(Source: Justice Katju official facebook)

[Telugodura456]

10 minutes ago, Tryad said:

yeah happens a lot. I only skim through what's written and fill the rest based on the caricature I have of the poster.

I lack the patience to actually engage, after having received countless arguments in bad faith.

It's however still my error. and I feel extraordinarily stupid to have typed the response that is exactly opposite to what you claimed.

LOL - are you being sarcastic or genuinely contrite ? - surprising if it is later.

[Telugodura456]

6 minutes ago, Tryad said:

are you saying its okay that lower caste muslims are fcuked because lower caste hindus are fcuked too.. and lets just blindly carry on supporting political Telugu unity as if its going to solve all these problems? lmao.

so now wer are supposed to be arguing about how graciously telugus didn't bother muslims? lmao. did you forget the part that they are telugu too? lmao.

wtf are you even saying asshole

Stop trying to act that telugus in general are communal. they are not. They even elected openly christian Cms for like three times.

it is ten thousand times better to be a muslim in andhra than pretty much anywhere in india.

[Tryad]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

LOL - are you being sarcastic or genuinely contrite ? - surprising if it is later.

how's that sarcastic, asshole? there's no remorse. Just the feeling of pity for having reduced myself to engage the likes of you, even though I'm not actually in the mood for it.

I don't even understand why I post here. when I hate you all.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

Stop trying to act that telugus in general are communal. they are not. They even elected openly christian Cms for like three times.

it is ten thousand times better to be a muslim in andhra than pretty much anywhere in india.

Having a common language helps people integrate better into the society. It helps people understand culture & respect each other's boundaries as language can be used as an effective means of communication. 

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

Stop trying to act that telugus in general are communal. they are not. They even elected openly christian Cms for like three times.

it is ten thousand times better to be a muslim in andhra than pretty much anywhere in india.

achievement of telugu society.

where are the muslim stories in Telugu? there are none. outside of some cringe sh1t in khadgam that portray muslims as gorres for either islam or for India.

not just telugus, everyone in India is sensitive about religion. telugus are no better.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

achievement of telugu society.

where are the muslim stories in Telugu? there are none. outside of some cringe sh1t in khadgam that portray muslims as gorres for either islam or for India.

not just telugus, everyone in India is sensitive about religion. telugus are no better.

when the news stories about muslims from india is about mass slauger, rapes, murders for eating their food , i will gladly take no stories from andhra.

 

[Tryad]

4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

They even elected openly christian Cms for like three times.

and celebrated when one of them died in a plane crash, with multiple references to how he deserved it for 'messing with tirumala'. lmao.

jagan cannot become CM if he openly embraces his xian identity. No one can.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

and celebrated when one of them died in a plane crash, with multiple references to how he deserved it for 'messing with tirumala'. lmao.

jagan cannot become CM if he openly embraces his xian identity. No one can.

There are ofcourse sanghi idiots who are telugu.  But overall the linguistic society of telugu treats muslims 1000 time better than india. No comparision at all.

you are comparing gossip of few against ysr to crores who voted him and celebrated him and also his son ? what dishonesty.

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

when the news stories about muslims from india is about mass slauger, rapes, murders for eating their food , i will gladly take no stories from andhra.

haha.. that's about the best you can get. atleast there is that realization.

muslims will not be allowed to thrive as muslims in Andhra or anywhere in India, unless they have networks that make that possible. so stop claiming that muslims don't care about Telugu. Its telugus that don't care about muslims in their midst.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

haha.. that's about the best you can get. atleast there is that realization.

muslims will not be allowed to thrive as muslims in Andhra or anywhere in India, unless they have networks that make that possible. so stop claiming that muslims don't care about Telugu. Its telugus that don't care about muslims in their midst.

you are getting boring now. You are not even debating but trying to peddle/sell some view point. A fools errand.

[Tryad]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

There are ofcourse sanghi idiots who are telugu.  But overall the linguistic society of telugu treats muslims 1000 time better than india. No comparision at all.

you are comparing gossip of few against ysr to crores who voted him and celebrated him and also his son ? what dishonesty.

gossip of a few? lmao. it was a clear political message that I remember from that time.

even recently Sandra Bob (not from the BJP I might add) made such a ruckus about Jagan destroying temples in Andhra, and he was not successful ofcourse, because it was not true.

but there is an undercurrent that xians and muslims are not equal to Hindus in general telugu mindset.