Hospitals in USA are big scam - lost father-in-law

[Android_Halwa]

2 hours ago, Jatka Bandi said:

Meeru troll chese TANA, NATA, NATS, ATA organizations are very helpful in these scenarios.

Sagam sagam teluskoni anavasaramaina sangham ki vathasu palakaku...

All these orgs are useless idiots...you might have heard of stories and help provided by these orgs but it's clear you have no idea how it works. If anyone have received help from thse orgs, ask them the procedure and they will put up a blank face because they have no idea how stuff works.

Reach out to Indian Consulate in such instances...because they are the ones who take care of such stuff. TANA ATA NATA BATA LAUDA LASSA ani vallu peekedi emi ledu...telsukoni bhajana chey...lekapothey itlane sagam sagam info tho samaja seva cheyalsi vastadi.

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, bankris said:

But, visitor's insurance is a total scam in itself.

It is a scam. Every dollar we spend to pay for premiums is literally useless. There is no insurance policy in the USA that covers visitors because they know they do not have an SSN and they have to leave the country in a short period.

Visitors insurance is a useless thing in USA. Edo peace of mind kosam teesukovalidne thappa paisa ki upayogam vundadu. I learnt the reality of such insurance in a hard way but was lucky that my bill was just couple of thousand. 

[Jindal]

4 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Sagam sagam teluskoni anavasaramaina sangham ki vathasu palakaku...

All these orgs are useless idiots...you might have heard of stories and help provided by these orgs but it's clear you have no idea how it works. If anyone have received help from thse orgs, ask them the procedure and they will put up a blank face because they have no idea how stuff works.

Reach out to Indian Consulate in such instances...because they are the ones who take care of such stuff. TANA ATA NATA BATA LAUDA LASSA ani vallu peekedi emi ledu...telsukoni bhajana chey...lekapothey itlane sagam sagam info tho samaja seva cheyalsi vastadi.

arey pake pakodi lk ga, vallu chalane chesaru. ippdudu edo news lo pichi pichi ga rendu moodu events ayyayi ani mothaniki vallani blame cheyyaku, vallu chalane chesaru. i personally know one incident regarding shiting body from here to india. 

cheptuna ga me ayya C vaadi undalsindi anavsaram ga puttav, ne valla me intlo upayogam ledu, kanesam paytm chillara kosam chestuna pani kuda sakkaga ledu. useless piece of shitttt

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, Jindal said:

i personally know one incident regarding shiting body from here to india. 

Ive lauda fuk maatalu ante....ae organization odu kuda ippativaraku dead body ni india ki shift cheyaledu...

there is a procedure for that and that happens through Indian consulate and a funeral home. I know the entire process. 

Oka pani chey..dead body etla India ki shift ayindo niku telsina case la telsukuni cheppu..atarvata nenu cheptha...FYI, ie DB lo oka thread kuda vuntadi how does dead body travel to India ani....

All these useless orgs do is to co-ordinate with Indian consulate in New York to transport mortal remains...anthe thappa peeked emi ledu...

Motham telsukon aina matladu...lekapothey blind bhajana aina cheyu mee sangham ki...

[Jindal]

2 hours ago, bankris said:

Friends.. I'm did not post here to get sympathy from you all. I posted it so that other members can have information that there are services to send bed ridden people to India. You just need to be ready to pay massive amounts. We didn't have that information and so we suffered. Had we known about those air medical services few weeks before, my father-in-law would have been alive today...

All these TANA, ATA etc organizations may be good.. but, to our bad luck, we couldn't get help in time. And, I wilfully never got involved in such organizations as I felt they are mostly caste-based. They were originally started with good aim, but eventually got corrupted with caste agenda.

 

 for your loss bro. be strong.

yes bro, little luck we needed anthe, right time lo right approach, ala cheppe persons undali or atleast directions unte. bit of luck. even though those orgs are caste based, they do definitely help. ade antuna approach anthe.

me situation lo you were going through a lot, you definitely needed a lending shoulder at that time. ah stress lo meeku definitely not easy to process all things. at the same time you have to handle the new born, wife, not at all easy.

people do judge all the time, dont bother about the comments here. only thing i would say, meeru max entha cheyagalaro adi chesaru,  dont feel regrets about it. loss is incurable, accept it and just make peace with it. 

[Jindal]

11 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Ive lauda fuk maatalu ante....ae organization odu kuda ippativaraku dead body ni india ki shift cheyaledu...

there is a procedure for that and that happens through Indian consulate and a funeral home. I know the entire process. 

Oka pani chey..dead body etla India ki shift ayindo niku telsina case la telsukuni cheppu..atarvata nenu cheptha...FYI, ie DB lo oka thread kuda vuntadi how does dead body travel to India ani....

All these useless orgs do is to co-ordinate with Indian consulate in New York to transport mortal remains...anthe thappa peeked emi ledu...

Motham telsukon aina matladu...lekapothey blind bhajana aina cheyu mee sangham ki...

arey bosadk. nenu annadi-- "i personally know one incident regarding shifting body from here to india."

nenu ekkadaina vallu shift chestaru ani cheppana?? mentla lk ga. notiki vachinattu vaagutunnav??? 

adi cheyyataniki vallu teesukunna initiative, talking to consulate, expenses, handling etc 

arey mental lk ga notiki vachinattu vaagaku neeku aak ki pak ki teda kuda telvad ani db lo andariki telusu.

anavsaram ga ee thread kampu cheyamaku, inko thread separate ga esuko akkada kochi detailed ga 10gutha.

 

 

[Android_Halwa]

13 minutes ago, Jindal said:

arey bosadk. nenu annadi-- "i personally know one incident regarding shifting body from here to india."

nenu ekkadaina vallu shift chestaru ani cheppana?? mentla lk ga. notiki vachinattu vaagutunnav??? 

adi cheyyataniki vallu teesukunna initiative, talking to consulate, expenses, handling etc 

arey mental lk ga notiki vachinattu vaagaku neeku aak ki pak ki teda kuda telvad ani db lo andariki telusu.

anavsaram ga ee thread kampu cheyamaku, inko thread separate ga esuko akkada kochi detailed ga 10gutha.

 

 

Arey makelowde, already clear ga seppina…niku telsina vallani procedure anukuni cheppu ani…atarvata ide DB la 3-4 years nene okanthread esina how these organizations work in transporting bodies to India ani with contacts…

First procedure kanukuni cheppu…samjha chutiye ? 

[Jatka Bandi]

1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

Sagam sagam teluskoni anavasaramaina sangham ki vathasu palakaku...

All these orgs are useless idiots...you might have heard of stories and help provided by these orgs but it's clear you have no idea how it works. If anyone have received help from thse orgs, ask them the procedure and they will put up a blank face because they have no idea how stuff works.

Reach out to Indian Consulate in such instances...because they are the ones who take care of such stuff. TANA ATA NATA BATA LAUDA LASSA ani vallu peekedi emi ledu...telsukoni bhajana chey...lekapothey itlane sagam sagam info tho samaja seva cheyalsi vastadi.

neeku anni telisinattu vaagaku.. TG jaffa reddy gaallu dobbadame kaani chesina mohaalu avutene kada.. They help a lot if not up to your satisfaction.. there are helpful individuals participating in those organizations.. procedures telusukovalanta bochuga.. nuvvu paisal eggotti raavadam kante better ee ee organizations. 

Indian consulate ni approach avvamani kooda cheppa. But bureaucracy may not always be helpful 

[Android_Halwa]

4 minutes ago, Jatka Bandi said:

neeku anni telisinattu vaagaku.. TG jaffa reddy gaallu dobbadame kaani chesina mohaalu avutene kada.. They help a lot if not up to your satisfaction.. there are helpful individuals participating in those organizations.. procedures telusukovalanta bochuga.. nuvvu paisal eggotti raavadam kante better ee ee organizations. 

Indian consulate ni approach avvamani kooda cheppa. But bureaucracy may not always be helpful 

Induke chepedi anni telsu ani kathal 10gaku ani…

it usually costs 8k-10k to transport a body to India, Do you really think these orgs will spend this kind of amount on each case ?

Aaku fuku eeka ki teda telvakapotey itlane vuntadi….previously in this DB I posted a thread as to what happens to mortal  remains how these orgs use the services of Indian consulate and project as their own..

Elli paduko, Repu Saturday ae…peekedi emi ledu le nuvvu elagoxx

[Jatka Bandi]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Induke chepedi anni telsu ani kathal 10gaku ani…

it usually costs 8k-10k to transport a body to India, Do you really think these orgs will spend this kind of amount on each case ?

Aaku fuku eeka ki teda telvakapotey itlane vuntadi….previously in this DB I posted a thread as to what happens to mortal  remains how these orgs use the services of Indian consulate and project as their own..

Elli paduko, Repu Saturday ae…peekedi emi ledu le nuvvu elagoxx

arey madarchod.. sevala meeda politics chese badcow gaadivi neekem ardham aitadi.. He did not express a concern about deadbody.. manishini kaapadadam nerchuko bewakoof.. hospital lo support or India ki teesukelladaniki support.. second medical opinions.. ilantivi chala vuntayi.. moolana koorchuni mundaa edupu ediche nee kante bagane telusu.. I saw these people help multiple times.. nuvvu tappite prapancham antha bewarse ani kathal nee intlo pettuko.. Earlier you posted anta.. mundaa.. ee prapancham lo vaadu maatrame chesina pani cheppukune vaadu okkadu ledu.. velli scam lu chesuko..

[Jindal]

14 minutes ago, Jatka Bandi said:

arey madarchod.. sevala meeda politics chese badcow gaadivi neekem ardham aitadi.. He did not express a concern about deadbody.. manishini kaapadadam nerchuko bewakoof.. hospital lo support or India ki teesukelladaniki support.. second medical opinions.. ilantivi chala vuntayi.. moolana koorchuni mundaa edupu ediche nee kante bagane telusu.. I saw these people help multiple times.. nuvvu tappite prapancham antha bewarse ani kathal nee intlo pettuko.. Earlier you posted anta.. mundaa.. ee prapancham lo vaadu maatrame chesina pani cheppukune vaadu okkadu ledu.. velli scam lu chesuko..

exactly this is my point. help ante ilane cheyali, alane cheyali ento nak telvad. just a small suggestion also helps right? 

 

[Jindal]

19 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Induke chepedi anni telsu ani kathal 10gaku ani…

it usually costs 8k-10k to transport a body to India, Do you really think these orgs will spend this kind of amount on each case ?

Aaku fuku eeka ki teda telvakapotey itlane vuntadi….previously in this DB I posted a thread as to what happens to mortal  remains how these orgs use the services of Indian consulate and project as their own..

Elli paduko, Repu Saturday ae…peekedi emi ledu le nuvvu elagoxx

arey please ee thread kampu cheyakunda ikkaditho aapey. neeku kavalante separate thread esukuni ne vignana pradarsana chesuko. evadu vaddu anadu ok?

nuvu ippudu veyaledu ani evadanna annada?? naaku gurthu ledu nenu chudaledu ah thread, infact it could have helped many in one way or other. i really appreciate for that information.

so stop here and lets talk this somewhere else

[Android_Halwa]

32 minutes ago, Jatka Bandi said:

arey madarchod.. sevala meeda politics chese badcow gaadivi neekem ardham aitadi.. He did not express a concern about deadbody.. manishini kaapadadam nerchuko bewakoof.. hospital lo support or India ki teesukelladaniki support.. second medical opinions.. ilantivi chala vuntayi.. moolana koorchuni mundaa edupu ediche nee kante bagane telusu.. I saw these people help multiple times.. nuvvu tappite prapancham antha bewarse ani kathal nee intlo pettuko.. Earlier you posted anta.. mundaa.. ee prapancham lo vaadu maatrame chesina pani cheppukune vaadu okkadu ledu.. velli scam lu chesuko..

Lol Madarchot…

poi bhajana sesuko…

[pushparaj]

4 hours ago, bankris said:

I tried to call the so-called TANA etc people with the numbers I found on the website.. but never heard back from anyone.. Even called some SEWA organizations. It happened on Friday.. We were in shock.. we didn't know what to do next.. have spent massive amounts already.. Found a crematorium in a nearby big city and called a priest from that city's temple and got all final rites done.. tried to call many friends.. but not much people attended.. 

Life Lessons - Deal with situations yourself.. do not expect help from anyone. If you get help, be happy else.. no regrets. be prepared to deal yourself the situations.. 

My father-in-law had a massive number of friends in India. But, he went alone in this foreign land.. The only respite is that his both grandchildren are with him during his last minutes.. 

I alone know how much we struggled in the last few months.. Lots of money gone.. no peace.. anger on doctors.. hospitals.. frustration.. helplessness.. and not to mention guilt..that we couldn't save him.. 

so  to hear about your loss brother. 
 

you did what you can. 

[argadorn]

4 hours ago, bankris said:

My father-in-law came to the USA last November. Suddenly he fell ill, and we took him to urgent care.. they charged $800.. gave him some medicines.. after a few days his condition worsened.. we took him to urgent care, and they asked us to take him to emergency. They admitted him in the hospital.. for four days and sent him home as his condition is stabilized.. he fell ill again in 10 days. went to emergency.. they admitted him for 15 days now and sent him home.. on the day they discharged him, we noticed he had lost hearing... and told the same to Doctor, and they neglected.. after coming home.. we realized he got severe ear infection.. lot of discharge from ear.. he was again admitted to hospital for 15 days.. and discharged.. after coming we noticed he has a lot of  rash on his head... and nurse came home and checked and confirmed it is shingless.. now again admitted to hospital for over a month...HE became very week and lost all muscle as didnt have solid food for almost 3 months by now.  Only liquid food.. Doctors couldn't diagnize what is the actual issues.. they did lot of MRI scans.. CT scans .. Chest Xrays... could not find anything.. They gave a lot of steroids... medicines.. anti-biotics.. We suffered a lot for 4 months.. with new born.. both me and my wife working and my father-in-law in hospital.. It was hell..

Finally, he passed away in hospital at the end of MAy.. The total bill came to $300,000.. Hospitals in USA are a big scam..

At any point had we taken my father-in-law to India, he would have survived.. Doctors here are very slow.. Laws are so that Doctors can't take independent decisions to give aggressive treatments.. Some of the Doctors are Indians and they themselves agreed that had it been in India, he would have survived... 

We couldn't take him to India coz none of us have stamping.. plus didn't get the passport yet. We asked many people and posted in many facebook groups that if there is anyone who can take them, we can pay the full charge... But, no luck..

 

Upon an extensive search in the internet, we found there are companies who transport such patients across countries after getting necessary approvals from doctors and airlines, and airports. Basically bed to bed service. They take patients from the hospital bed in USA to hospital bed in India.. They take care of everything.  But we came to very late.. They have 3 options. We hired the company called Air med services (https://airmedgroup.com).

1. Book a private air ambulance - $200,000 - They will send the patient in private jet with a doctor and trained nurse and equipment (oxygen, emergency medicines etc)

2. They will book 9-10 seats in the commercial airline to place a stretcher. A trained nurse will go with patient with all necessary equipment. This costs $60,000.

3. They will book a first class/business class seat in commercial airline and a trained nurse will accompany the patient with all necessary equipment. Any where between $20,000 to $30,000.

AS soon as we came to know about this service, we booked them by opting #3 option and paid $25,000. 

They booked the flights and contacts both source hospital (USA) and destination hospital (Vizag), checked the patient condition, got all necessary instructions from Doctors, approvals from airlines, ambulances from hospital to airlines were arranged.. But, unfortunately, two days before his travel , his condition went very bad and he passed away.. Our lives shattered, we didn't know what to do.. 

We complained to doctors hospital management.. we know there is obvious negligence from hospital side at every step.. They themselves know it.. They even asked if we want to do a autopsy.. But, we rejected. HE already suffered a lot in hospital. We didnt want his body to be cut.. We creamted him in here itself in USA (After speaking to his immediate family) in India.. My wife is his only child. 

The hospital could not sign on his death certificate until now. Its been almost two months now.. Usually, Death certificate will be signed within 2 weeks.. 

Hospitals and insurance companies are a big scam here in USA.. India is far better and far advanced than USA now a days.. Plus USA hospitals are very short-staffed now... 

Sorry all for the long post.. But, I guess this will be helpful for our Indian community.. HAd we know about that Air ambulance services 2 months before, we could have transfered him to India and he would have been alive.. 

He came to USA as a normal person.. now he is no more.. He is 67 years old.. no bad habits.. had been yoga guru for almost 2 decades.. he ahs been actively doing yoga all along.. a chemical engineer.. At that age also, he used to play with local Indian guys.. he was very passionate about Cricket and Tennis.. All guys used to be surprised that he is able to run and play cricket at that age.. better than many other guys.. 

HE is very educated and has knowledge in every field including medical.. He used to read about medicines that were given in hsopital and he himself told us that if he is in the hospital for long with such medication, he will not see India soil.. he will die in USA itself and that's exactly is what happened.. 

He never allowed us to sign any document in the hospital for responsibility.. Even in such abd health he signed himself in all documents..This really helped us.. We are not liable for any hospital bills as he signed himself.. Other wise we would have to pay $300, 000 bill now. 

Don’t blame  on hospitals … hospitals are there to suck our money for their service .. why didn’t you take him to other hospital for second opinion when you went to same hospital multiple times .. I see common sense issue and I know our brain won’t work in emergency situations … the friend who suggested not to sign in the hospital papers should have advised you to go other hospital too … i has two accidents and one kidney stone incident they did whole body tests including mri Ct scan