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9 hours ago, Tryad said:

@Telugodura456 pls come and claim Hyd is cleaner than sf. and people are more kind and respectful and full of culture that they learnt thanks to telugu language. lmao.

and even has THub, which will be the next silly valley :giggle:

unfortunately cultures that stagnate can innovate, but won't have enough cultural cache to transmit that innovation throughout their society and enrich that innovation. eg. japan with its rigid hierarchical culture (like India and AP/TG) that used to be a leader in electronics is reduced to being a mere customer for Microsoft in software now.

China will also end up the same. India too. SF like regions are rare in the world. perhaps nothing else exists. Even if its inhabitants are insufferable, you have the hope that you can outflank them and drive them out of sf with tears if you successfully use its culture to propagate your sh1t. hehe..

No other region in the world offers that.

There is no innovation in india. India is not suited for it. I think you forgot it is you who used to make comments - "All it takes for semiconduction industry in India is a few young persons getting to gether and say lets get it done. lmao".

what innovation in SF - its all software - its more to do with cultural domination of english than anything else really.

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2 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

There is no innovation in india. India is not suited for it. I think you forgot it is you who used to make comments - "All it takes for semiconduction industry in India is a few young persons getting to gether and say lets get it done. lmao".

what innovation in SF - its all software - its more to do with cultural domination of english than anything else really.

I didn't say it at all. I said semiconductor design industry can flourish in India if a few young people get together and start designing chips, and govt creates a market for their products by buying govt equipment from Indian original design manufacturers.

It takes much less money to do this than to waste money on expensive equipment for semi fabs, and then begging the US to provide the s/w for it, along with regular capital investments ranging about $5-10b for upgrading equipment for newer nodes.

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2 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

what innovation in SF - its all software - its more to do with cultural domination of english than anything else really.

how did you even graduate an engg course, let alone IIT as you claim?

bay area is the fountain head of commercial invention in the world. sf itself has all the cash it needs to catch to the latest thing other places in bay area develop and accelerate it to serve business needs. what else would you call as innovation?

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Tryad said:

I didn't say it at all. I said semiconductor design industry can flourish in India if a few young people get together and start designing chips, and govt creates a market for their products by buying govt equipment from Indian original design manufacturers.

It takes much less money to do this than to waste money on expensive equipment for semi fabs, and then begging the US to provide the s/w for it, along with regular capital investments ranging about $5-10b for upgrading equipment for newer nodes.

LOL ...yes lets keep waiting for this magical "few young people". 1.4 billion people - largest youth in the world - ippati dhaaka endhuku raledho.

your analysis is based on cloud cuckoo things.

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45 minutes ago, Tryad said:

how did you even graduate an engg course, let alone IIT as you claim?

bay area is the fountain head of commercial invention in the world. sf itself has all the cash it needs to catch to the latest thing other places in bay area develop and accelerate it to serve business needs. what else would you call as innovation?

 

 

Apart from software - is there any innovation that came from there ?. bay area is all about finance and english language domination. Their products are all about information moving around and in advertizement area.   They are all designed to serve capitalists.

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10 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

LOL ...yes lets keep waiting for this magical "few young people". 1.4 billion people - largest youth in the world - ippati dhaaka endhuku raledho.

your analysis is based on cloud cuckoo things.

lol, you still don't understand what I said.

but that is to be expected of a dumbfcuk who thinks GDP refers to production.

 

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17 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Apart from software - is there any innovation that came from there ?. bay area is all about finance and english language domination. Their products are all about information moving around and in advertizement area.   They are all designed to serve capitalists.

what innovation is not designed to serve capitalists? that's the feature of innovation.

are you going to pretend like you talk about makerspaces, and the hacker culture which are extremely popular too and widespread in sf and the bayarea.

will I be forced into a conversation about some bloody chinese construction project, or its space program as an example of how it doesn't serve capitalists?

newsflash - those things are not branded as innovation.

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10 minutes ago, Tryad said:

what innovation is not designed to serve capitalists? that's the feature of innovation.

are you going to pretend like you talk about makerspaces, and the hacker culture which are extremely popular too and widespread in sf and the bayarea.

will I be forced into a conversation about some bloody chinese construction project, or its space program as an example of how it doesn't serve capitalists?

newsflash - those things are not branded as innovation.

we have seen the innovation in homelessness, widespread fecal matters in streets of SFO.

just the STFU.

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1 minute ago, Telugodura456 said:

we have seen the innovation in homelessness, widespread fecal matters in streets of SFO.

just the STFU.

how is that relevant to what is said here about innovation?

sf is flexible about institutions that finance the startups and the ecosystem around it, and inflexible about zoning laws and public housing.

if you are asking why those hackers didn't build solutions for the homeless, most of those solutions would be illegal, since they would violate zoning laws.

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Just now, Tryad said:

how is that relevant to what is said here about innovation?

sf is flexible about institutions that finance the startups and the ecosystem around it, and inflexible about zoning laws and public housing.

if you are asking why those hackers didn't build solutions for the homeless, most of those solutions would be illegal, since they would violate zoning laws.

so you agree innovation is POS garbage which means nothing to well being of people. Then why hype "innovation" - its abracadabra garbage.

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15 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

so you agree innovation is POS garbage which means nothing to well being of people. Then why hype "innovation" - its abracadabra garbage.

absolutely. innovation can be leveraged by people, who want to work outside of corporations. but innovation itself aims to create devices to further control people and not liberate them.

hype innovation because let businesses spend a lot of money come up with an innovation which can then be stolen from them by hackers to create stuff in their own groups. some of them escape the hackerspaces like comma.ai that makes a mockery of Tesla FSD by offering the same at one-tenth its cost. It does happen in SF, but also elsewhere in the US/Canada/West. examples are numerous. the opensource movement was born in MIT, but flourished only in berkeley.

unfortunately corporates have a lot of the tools to try and fail and hackers have the patience to observe and learn from corporates failures and experiment on axis where there's a non-zero chance for success at lower cost.

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