vegan hypocrisy..part 4

[dasari4kntr]

fourth part of the vegan hypocrisy series...

 

 

 

What are the VEGANs should avoid first instead of JUDGING the OTHERS on their food choices...

 

Vegans avoid consuming or using any products derived from animals. This includes not only obvious animal products like meat, fish, and dairy, but also certain less obvious ingredients and materials that are derived from animals. Here are some things that vegans typically avoid:

Food & Beverages:

1. Meat and Fish: This includes all kinds of meat, poultry, and fish.

2. Dairy Products: Milk, cheese, yogurt, butter, and other products made from cow's milk or any other animal's milk.

3. Eggs: From any bird, not just chickens.

4. Honey: Because it's produced by bees.

5. Gelatin: This is made from animal bones and is found in many kinds of candy, marshmallows, and desserts. Look for gelatin-free or agar (plant-based alternative) versions instead.

6. Certain Additives: Some food additives like L-cysteine (a dough conditioner), certain food colorings, and certain types of Vitamin D3 are derived from animals.

7. Shellac: Sometimes used as a coating or glaze on foods, shellac is made from the secretions of the female lac bug.

8. Certain Alcohol: Some beers, wines, and spirits are clarified using animal products like isinglass (from fish bladders) or gelatin.

9. Whey, Casein, and Lactose: These are all derived from milk.

Clothing & Personal Items:

1. Leather, Fur, Wool, and Silk: All of these materials are derived from animals.

2. Certain Soaps and Cosmetics: Many soaps and cosmetics contain animal products like tallow (rendered beef fat) or lanolin (from sheep's wool). Some also use animal testing.

3. Certain Condom Brands: Some condom brands use casein (from milk) in the manufacturing process.

Household Items:

1. Candles: Some candles are made from beeswax or stearic acid, which is often derived from animal fat.

2. Down Products: Down is the soft layer of feathers closest to a bird's skin, primarily in the chest region. These feathers are often used to fill products like bedding and clothing.

3. Certain Cleaning Products: Some household cleaning products contain animal-derived ingredients or are tested on animals.

This is not an exhaustive list and it's also important to note that not all vegans choose to avoid all of these items. Some people might identify as vegan but still use products like honey or silk. It's a very individual decision that can depend on a person's specific ethical, health, or environmental beliefs.

While electric products themselves don't contain animal ingredients, there are considerations vegans might take into account when purchasing them. This is often more about the ethics of production rather than the presence of animal products.

1. Animal Testing: Some electronic products are tested on animals. For instance, devices used in the medical field might be tested on animals before they are deemed safe for human use.

2. Environmental Impact: Vegans often consider the environment in their choices. Electronics have a significant environmental impact due to the mining of rare earth metals, use of fossil fuels in manufacturing, and electronic waste. A vegan might choose to buy less new electronics, choose more sustainable brands, or buy second-hand to reduce this impact.

3. Workplace Ethics: The conditions in which electronics are made could also be a concern. Some factories have poor working conditions and do not treat their workers ethically. This might not be directly related to veganism, but many vegans extend their compassion for living beings to include humans as well.

4. Use of Animal Parts in Some Devices: Some devices or their components historically used animal parts. For instance, certain high-end headphones used leather (although synthetic alternatives are now widely available and used), and some instrument strings used gut. However, the use of animal parts in electronics is relatively rare today.

It's important to remember that veganism isn't just about a strict set of rules, but a guideline that helps individuals make choices that align with their values. Not every vegan may consider these factors when purchasing electronics, as the primary focus of veganism is avoiding direct animal exploitation. This can extend into these other areas depending on the individual's interpretation of their ethics.

Vegans often face challenges when it comes to medical products. While the ultimate goal of veganism is to avoid exploitation of animals, it is sometimes difficult to apply these principles to the realm of medicine. Here are some areas where the use of animal products is common:

1. Medications: Many medications contain gelatin or lactose as binders or fillers. Some medicines may also be coated with shellac (listed as pharmaceutical glaze) or may contain other animal-derived ingredients.

2. Vaccines: Vaccines may be grown in eggs or other animal cells, or may contain gelatin as a stabilizer.

3. Capsules: Many capsules, especially soft-gels, are made from gelatin. However, there are vegan alternatives available that are made from cellulose.

4. Medical Devices: Some medical devices like heart valves or sutures are made from animal tissues.

5. Testing: Many medical products are tested on animals before they are approved for human use. This includes medications, vaccines, medical devices, and more.

6. Insulin: Earlier, insulin used for medical purposes was often derived from pigs or cattle, but now, human insulin can be created in a lab using E.coli bacteria.

It's important to note that avoiding necessary medication because it contains animal products or was tested on animals is not typically recommended, even within the vegan community. Health is a priority, and sometimes there are no vegan alternatives available for necessary treatments. Vegans tend to do the best they can given the circumstances and strive to make choices that align with their values where possible. For instance, a vegan might choose a medication in tablet form over a gelatin capsule, if available and appropriate.

Always discuss your concerns with your healthcare provider before making decisions about your health.

 

 

[dasari4kntr]

come on …come on..రావాలమ్మా…

వచ్చి ఈ thread ని గబ్బు పట్టించు…

 

[Konebhar6]

13 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

come on …come on..రావాలమ్మా…

వచ్చి ఈ thread ని గబ్బు పట్టించు…

 

Enti bhayya manchi mood lo unnatlunnav ee rooju ..

 

[Tryad]

did you actually read all that, or did you post without reading?

which vegan 'hypocrisy' do you want to argue on? I bet you don't have the balls to quote me, even while you pretend like you have understood everything you copy-pasted from multiple sources.

atleast one of these sources you copy-pasted from acknowledges that vegans take the 'less pain to animals' route, and that its silly to expect vegans to completely avoid animal products when there are no vegan alteranatives available.

so what exactly is your point?

Why exactly do you think raising animals to kill them 'humanely' (if such a thing were even possible) is a good alternative, when you can perfectly eat plant food and get all nutrients you need. Except may be b12, which you can supplement.

lets see if you have the balls to actually converse, rather than copy-pasting sh1t and declaring yourself as 'above it all'.

[Tryad]

14 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said:

Enti bhayya manchi mood lo unnatlunnav ee rooju ..

 

hurt aynattu unnadu paapam. entha manchi mood lo unna, he'll won't actually respond to me.

he prefers to talk to hindutva scum and nazi adjacent scum in this db instead. Those are his standards. lmao.

 

[Tryad]

40 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

What are the VEGANs should avoid first instead of JUDGING the OTHERS on their food choices...

nobody judged you dumbfcuk. you were asked a question, and you threw a fit and started crying on me.

I know you have very poor comprehension skills, on top of a himalayan ego, but your tendency to portray yourself as some wronged person is even more hilarious to me.

[Tryad]

logic 101..

Lets say A is bad because it happens to do B. Vegans won't do A as a result.

then bringing up C which actually doesn't do B, but some version of it like B1, B10, which vegans are okay with, doesn't translate to hypocrisy, asshole.

B - refers to killing of animal

B1 - sourcing animal cells with progressively less intrusive methods (improving procedures over the years)

it just means vegans have better standards and are more thoughtful about the lives they live, and more creative with what they do.

what do you wanna do? live like some pastoral tribe from the 1000 bc, raise animals to eat them, and give lectures on hypocrisy to the modern vegan. lmao.

you have no shame, really.

[dasari4kntr]

37 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said:

Enti bhayya manchi mood lo unnatlunnav ee rooju ..

 

కొంతమందికి biscuit వేసా….

ఇప్పుడు చూడు…ఈ thread లో గిలగిల కొట్టుకుంటున్నారు….

[Tryad]

Its clear you know nothing about vegans. Vegans do avoid all of the above, since they have vegan alternatives. Its a waste of time to respond one by one to the list you copy-pasted above, since pretty sure you didn't even read it before you posted.

the only things they can't avoid is drug testing on animals. rest of the list is just waiting to be debunked. If only you had the courage to have a conversation actually.

anyway you like a lot of Indians associated 'meat-free' with purity obsessed brahmins. while building an alternative ethical universe where killing animals for food is just natural 'cycle of life' sh1t and is probably even good for the animals.

dumb sh1t like this, and propensity to mock vegans at every turn is why I don't care about dravidianism anymore.

its like people have no conception of ethics, and no idea how to be a decent human if you can't be ethical because of some pressing need for you to eat bodies of dead animals.

[Tryad]

8 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

కొంతమందికి biscuit వేసా….

ఇప్పుడు చూడు…ఈ thread లో గిలగిల కొట్టుకుంటున్నారు….

more posting in telugu for your friends, while not having the balls to actually defend your position. lmao.

[Tryad]

don't be scared @dasari4kntr Its just an online conversation. lmao.

I'm not gonna eat you. Although I consider eating humans not an unreasonable thing to do. I just don't have the taste for it. yet.

I'm just gonna humiliate you, while I sift through the dumb bs you post here. while you keep pretending like having a dozen dumbfcuks here agree with you means that you are right. lmao.

 

[dasari4kntr]

ఉస్కో….

 

[Tryad]

12 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

ఉస్కో….

 

typical coward.

next time don't even bother with the thread. Its clear you are not equipped to stand by your choices, which are all based on half baked understanding of the world.

what a pathetic mediocre loser, hiding behind friends in a public forum. do you carry such chamchas everywhere you go, lest someone forces you to deal with the reality that you are a dumbfcuk? lmao.

[Sixers]

Bhayyo diets anni kasta padi chesthunnarante edo oka health problem untundi keto ante sugar problem vegan ante heart problem ala 

[Tryad]

1 hour ago, Sixers said:

Bhayyo diets anni kasta padi chesthunnarante edo oka health problem untundi keto ante sugar problem vegan ante heart problem ala 

 

veganism is not just a diet, heart problem kosam. Its an ethical way of living.

thread start chesinodiki antha curiosity gaani, telivi gaani ledhu ley. edho db lo vaadi chamchalaki signal ivvatam kosam vesadu thread ni.

gaadidha vayasochindi. total waste candidate.