vegan hypocrisy..part 4

[andhra_jp]

11 hours ago, Tryad said:

the girl had serious eating problems living on a diet of solely jackfruit for years.

living on vegan diet in India is the cheapest way to live. You don't have to drink almond milk or eat avocado. You just need to buy tofu direct from the manufacturer for less than 140rs/kilo, stock up on beans, spinach, mushrooms, carrots, peanuts, take B12 tablets, and you're all set.

its much cheaper than eating chicken - 300rs+/kilo.. mutton - 1400rs/kilo, beef - 400rs/kilo, and suffering a coronary artery disease 10yrs down the line.

vegan is the way to go. It is the future. It is kind to animals, and also provides your body with all nutrients if you plan your diet well. Its also cheap.

You are jumping quick in conclusions bhayya...

edo universal solution cheppinattu chebutunnavu....  i can understand your passion but your words seems no where near reality and based on assumptions...

 buy tofu antaavu ....     do u think every homo sapien in the world likes tofu and its taste ?

alagee eat peanuts antaavu .... peanut allergies vunna vallu vundaraa cheppu ?

mushrooms antee naaku ishtam leedu... ayinaa balavamtamgaa tinamantaavaa cheppu ?

vegan means kind of animals antaavu ...  but stats tells there are around 1.1% of vegans around world...  so are u saying only 1% of world are kind of animals ?

[Tryad]

2 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

You are jumping quick in conclusions bhayya...

edo universal solution cheppinattu chebutunnavu....  i can understand your passion but your words seems no where near reality and based on assumptions...

 buy tofu antaavu ....     do u think every homo sapien in the world likes tofu and its taste ?

alagee eat peanuts antaavu .... peanut allergies vunna vallu vundaraa cheppu ?

mushrooms antee naaku ishtam leedu... ayinaa balavamtamgaa tinamantaavaa cheppu ?

vegan means kind of animals antaavu ...  but stats tells there are around 1.1% of vegans around world...  so are u saying only 1% of world are kind of animals ?

ninnu evadu buy cheyyamannadu tofu? you posted a link that said 'vegan food is expensive'.. and I responded with saying that its not.

neeku ishtam leka pothey tinaku. evadu tinamannadu ninnu?

yeah people who are not vegans are by default not kind to animals, because they eat them.. deenlo emundhi controversial?

[Tryad]

10 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

edo universal solution cheppinattu chebutunnavu.

nuvvu vesina link lo veganims aey harmful ani undhi.. adhi mari correct conclusion aa?

the girl didn't die because of some veganism.. Her own mom says that she was suffering from ailments for years now.. probably due to her eating disorders.

vegan diet ante, chaala diets will qualify as vegan.. Roju mcdonald fries thinte adhi kooda vegan aey.. batiki untaada atla thinte evadanna? malli daaniki veganism reason antaava?

veganism is an ethical philosophy that implores you to be kinder to animals. Veganism is not just about the diet, its only a small part of it. you should plan your diet in such a way that your body meets all of its nutrient needs. if you cant do that, daaniki veganism ni blame cheste silly.

tofu is a large part of being vegan. yeah. If you don't like tofu.. its hard to stay vegan. may be you can try different soy products like tempeh or gluten protein like seitan. All these are super foods that give you more nutrients and less calories.

veganism is awesome and great.

[Tryad]

8 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

so are u saying only 1% of world are kind of animals ?

its kind of obvious. so you say that you eating chicken means you are kinder to animals than I who refuse to eat it?

ela ani cheppu.

[andhra_jp]

11 minutes ago, Tryad said:

its kind of obvious. so you say that you eating chicken means you are kinder to animals than I who refuse to eat it?

ela ani cheppu.

kind to animals antee not just stopping to eat meat ...

1) what about vegans who continue using animal products like leather ?

2) what about vegans who continue using plastic , diaper ... u name it which pollutes the environment and sometimes even animals eat plastic and suffer from the toxic pollution... ?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/madurai-65kg-plastic-removed-from-cows-stomach/articleshow/95952351.cms

3) What about vegans who own ICE cars and pollute the environment and contribute to global warming ?

4) Nuvvu Tofu tinamantunanvu but "According to the Carbon Trust, tofu made with soya from the deforested land in the Brazilian rainforest will have a carbon footprint twice that of chicken"

 

All i am saying is going vegan is NOT ONE STOP SOLUTION TO BE KIND TO ANIMALS..

I am not against vegans but i finding fault when vegans say they are THE ONLY SAINTS in this world with regards to being good to animals

[Tryad]

3 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

kind to animals antee not just stopping to eat meat ...

1) what about vegans who continue using animal products like leather ?

vegans try to consciously avoid that,

yeah people who eat meat are openly declaring that they don't care about animals and their suffering.

5 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

2) what about vegans who continue using plastic , diaper ... u name it which pollutes the environment and sometimes even animals eat plastic and suffer from the toxic pollution... ?

now you are stretching it.. you want vegans to give up random stuff because they talk about giving up meat.

vegans will avoid whatever is practically avoidable, and where there is an alternative. There's alternative to eating meat, so they don't eat meat.

do you think people who happily participate in killing billions of animals for food can lecture to vegans about use of plastics harming animals? when you participate in killing them by billions directly?

8 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

3) What about vegans who own ICE cars and pollute the environment and contribute to global warming ?

haha.. I spoke about being kind to animals, and you invent all these strange reasons why vegans cannot be kind to animals. again, vegans don't eat animals. you do.

9 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

4) Nuvvu Tofu tinamantunanvu but "According to the Carbon Trust, tofu made with soya from the deforested land in the Brazilian rainforest will have a carbon footprint twice that of chicken"

okay. then we can eat from soya that is not from the deforested brazilian rainforest. US itself grows plenty of soy and is the largest producer of soy in the world.

11 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

All i am saying is going vegan is NOT ONE STOP SOLUTION TO BE KIND TO ANIMALS..

yeah its not. but its a start.

but don't try to claim that meat eaters are kinder to animals than vegans. meat eaters are cruel to animals. vegans are not.

12 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

I am not against vegans but i finding fault when vegans say they are THE ONLY SAINTS in this world with regards to being good to animals

yeah. compared to people who eat meat, they are saints to animals. no doubt.

[andhra_jp]

37 minutes ago, Tryad said:

vegans try to consciously avoid that,

yeah people who eat meat are openly declaring that they don't care about animals and their suffering.

now you are stretching it.. you want vegans to give up random stuff because they talk about giving up meat.

vegans will avoid whatever is practically avoidable, and where there is an alternative. There's alternative to eating meat, so they don't eat meat.

do you think people who happily participate in killing billions of animals for food can lecture to vegans about use of plastics harming animals? when you participate in killing them by billions directly?

haha.. I spoke about being kind to animals, and you invent all these strange reasons why vegans cannot be kind to animals. again, vegans don't eat animals. you do.

okay. then we can eat from soya that is not from the deforested brazilian rainforest. US itself grows plenty of soy and is the largest producer of soy in the world.

yeah its not. but its a start.

but don't try to claim that meat eaters are kinder to animals than vegans. meat eaters are cruel to animals. vegans are not.

yeah. compared to people who eat meat, they are saints to animals. no doubt.

 

Bhayya, somehow i dont feel like arguing with you as i am not against people who eat vegan ..

BTW, i am vegetarian and naaku meat prices kuda sarigga teleedu..

I understand evolution so i dont have particular stand on eating habits..

if someone is passionate about vegan that fine for me..

if somehow wants to eat meat i dont bother...

 

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, andhra_jp said:

 

Bhayya, somehow i dont feel like arguing with you as i am not against people who eat vegan ..

BTW, i am vegetarian and naaku meat prices kuda sarigga teleedu..

I understand evolution so i dont have particular stand on eating habits..

if someone is passionate about vegan that fine for me..

if somehow wants to eat meat i dont bother...

you shared an article that said that a girl who followed a vegan diet died because of it, so I responded how that's not how veganism works.

I can't stop people from eating meat. But if someone mocks me for being a vegan, I'm going to mock them back too. simple.

I definitelly think that it is possible to avoid eating meat completely. But may be its not easy for others. Its fine. I'm not gonna be a b1tch about that. Hopefully some time in the future there's enough food tech that can replicate meat or create better tastes that allow people to give up meat.

from the perspective of reasonable treatment of animals, veganism is by far the best way to go. there's no doubt about that. meat eaters shouldn't preach to vegans about animal treatment. they should look at their own plates. that's all.

[andhra_jp]

Vegan mother doesn't kill lice on daughter's head

The young girl's head lice were being combed and released into the garden to ensure their survival by her vegan mother.

A mother in Australia has adopted a strikingly unconventional stance on her daughter’s head lice, one that has ignited a debate and left many perplexed. The reason? She's committed to not harming the nits in any way, driven by her adherence to a vegan lifestyle and she doesn’t want to kill any living being.

The peculiar scenario came to light through an advice column, where a concerned parent recounted her bewilderment. She knew the girl and her mother in question; her own daughter was the best friend of the girl with the lice problem.

The columnist raised an eyebrow at the irony – while the intent was to save these minuscule creatures from harm, the reality could be a "slow and painful" for the nits in the garden environment.

"I don't want to separate the kids, but there's no way 'combing them into the garden' is going to work (industrial-grade pesticide barely works) .

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/vegan-mother-doesnt-kill-lice-on-daughters-head-her-unconventional-approach-is-11180631.html