Discussion with a Brahmin friend about European Science

[pushparaj]

52 minutes ago, bharathicement said:

do you think Europeans were stealing one by one from Brahmins and revealing to the World in a controlled manner?

Lol of course not. Human intelligence is not limited to one country or race. It’s universal. 
 

but, are you not proud that science, medicine and math were thought in ancient india some hundreds or even thousands of years back? 
 

more than any science, the real contribution of india to the world is spirituality. How come so many realized beings in one country? It’s fascinating 

[anna_gari_maata]

1 hour ago, bharathicement said:

1. Pyramids have nothing to do with Brahmins. Just like Ancient China and Ancient South America, Egypt too had glorious pre-Christ era.

2. Stonehenge is in England 60 miles away from home. Again this has nothing to do with Brahmins.

Even if we assume, Europeans stole all Science from Brahmins, did they do it continuously from 1500-1945, secretly from Brahmin Homes year by year??

See the way in which British, German, Dutch, French, Spanish Scholars and scientists competed with each other to defeat others?

Firstly era of core physics like: Laws of Motion, Mechanics, Thermodynamics,  Electrcity, Electromagnetic induction, Optics, Sound, ---> all by Europeans

Then Astro-Physics, Modern Physics, invention of Electron, Proton and Neutron

And then Nuclear Physics, Quantum physics....

Parallely Organic Chemistry and medicine.

 

All these 4 centuries, do you think Europeans were stealing one by one from Brahmins and revealing to the World in a controlled manner?

Nice you totally ignored invasions and colonialism in the entire world. Guess you never read through history of even the US which had to "get independence" from the British empire. You are the kind of person that America likes to keep as immigrant because you never knew that until 1960, anyone other than Europeans should not become a naturalized citizen of USA or they will be jailed.

 

Guess you heard of Indian Universities which were totally burnt for a month by invaders ? Also you never heard about Yallapragada Subbarao or CV Raman or JC Bose or how Homi Bhabha was killed or Ramanujan or Shakuntala Devi or Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar.

 

Also ignoring a ton of Indian  researchers that are currently working in many universities across the world.

[anna_gari_maata]

Yea AFDB knows bigger and better than CERN

 

 

 

 

[kiran1012]

13 minutes ago, anna_gari_maata said:

Yea AFDB knows bigger and better than CERN

 

 

 

 

The statue is a gift from India, celebrating CERN's long association with India which started in the 1960's and continues strongly today. It was unveiled by the Director General, Dr Robert Aymar, His Excellency Mr K. M. Chandrasekhar, Ambassador (WTO-Geneva) and Dr Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary, Dept of Atomic Energy, India.

 

source: https://cds.cern.ch/record/745737?ln=en

[pavanjagan]

9 hours ago, bharathicement said:

Had a discussion with a Brahmin friend recently about European Scientists especially German Physicists, 1600-1945 (till about end of WW-2) when all the Glory and Power of Europe was transferred to USA.

I just discussed about this guy and his company:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Zeiss_AG

Its about 1850 time and see the kind of Scientific Prowess Germany developed nearly 200 years ago.

Then HE was totally upset and got serious with me. He said that its all bull sh!t. India had all this under Indian Scientists (he meant Brahmins) 1000 years ago.

Europe has stolen all this and established Cambridge and Oxford Universities.

Germans then stole it from UK Universities.

As an expert on Brahmanism, I request  @Telugodura456  to shed some light. And compare and contrast German Scientists and Indian Brahmins from Physics view point.

 

 

Anna neeku Bramhins ante chiraku kadu, appatlo Bramhins mimmalni baaga mingaaru ippudu meeru online mingutunnaru

[bharathicement]

6 hours ago, anna_gari_maata said:

Nice you totally ignored invasions and colonialism in the entire world. Guess you never read through history of even the US which had to "get independence" from the British empire. You are the kind of person that America likes to keep as immigrant because you never knew that until 1960, anyone other than Europeans should not become a naturalized citizen of USA or they will be jailed.

 

Guess you heard of Indian Universities which were totally burnt for a month by invaders ? Also you never heard about Yallapragada Subbarao or CV Raman or JC Bose or how Homi Bhabha was killed or Ramanujan or Shakuntala Devi or Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar.

 

Also ignoring a ton of Indian  researchers that are currently working in many universities across the world.

1. American thing: This is the whole purpose why I created this thread. American is nothing but another version of European Supremacism. They dominated in the past and will dominate in the future. Whole Indians are side-kicks in this process, not just Brahmins. Also Pakis, Arabs, Japs and Chinese too.. all as immigrants.

2. Indian Universities: Yes I heard Universities being burnt by Islamic invaders. But that was done by Turkish/Afghan and other Middle East invaders well before 1600 when European invaders started. If all documents were burnt up, how come Europeans copied Newtons Laws from Brahmins?

3. Indian Researchers: So called IITs produce not even 0.0001% of any useful Research papers produced by rest of the World. Except Homi Bhabha, all the remaining got fame in USA or Europe owing to the nature of value Europeans give to Education. Nothing to do with Brahmanism again. Also you should add Adbus Salaam, a Paki in that list

4. Tons of Indian Researchers: Firstly, they still do not produce anything which is considered 'Path breaking' in Physics. Yes, they get admissions for GCs in USA and story ends there. Also not just Indians, we have Arabians (who are considered dumb arses in general in the field of education) also excelling in education in USA. Also joined by Chinese, Pakis, Japs and Europeans any way.

[ranku_mogudu]

10 hours ago, bharathicement said:

He argues that even Newton stole Laws of Motion from a Brahmin.

Is that true bro?

But after stealing those documents, did Europeans burn all of them in India and took Xerox copies with them?

They could only steal 3 of the 4.

else Newtons 4th law would be

"Loose motion cannot be done in slow motion"

[Arya_Raoo]

45 minutes ago, ranku_mogudu said:

They could only steal 3 of the 4.

else Newtons 4th law would be

"Loose motion cannot be done in slow motion"

Mee rajulandaru ilane chillar jokes chestara

[dasari4kntr]

10 hours ago, pushparaj said:

Lot of knowledge is indeed stolen. Lot of knowledge is independently developed 

 

for example, sun is center of universe and earth revolves around sun ani jamana lo thelusu mana vallaki. Earth have gravity ani kuda 

 

asalu sun chuttu earth thirigadaniki Karanam kuda gravity ani newton kanipettadu. He is original. Antha easy ga newton mana knowledge dhobbesadu ani cheppalem. Ala ani manam bebbe batch kaadhu. We discovered a lot of things and let’s give due credit to our ancestors and be proud of it 

There is god side a d dark side... .

Coming to good side... I agree 200% there were good philosophies and science formulas born in ancient India...

Baudhayana Sulbasutra (Pythagoras), sulabha sutra, brahma gupta siddanta, beeja ghannitha siddantha..etc math related formulas....bhudda philosophy of desire, Jain philosophy of ahimsa, Hindu philosophy like various topics like identity and after death..etc (in upanishads), ajeeva philosophy of determinism..etc

In one word India was rich with full of theories and philosophies....it was ancient India....(as same as ancient greek)

Now the dark side....why this philosophies and theories are disappeared among common people..? We had a caste prejudice in society....like kshatriyas for all wars..brahmins for literature and other smart things...and other castes for other things...so these kind of theories and philosophies didn't reach to common people and eventually lost the existence...

In my opinion if all the ancient work was widely available for everyone in those days irrespective of caste they would have survive till today as part of the culture...

[Midnightsun]

5 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

There is god side a d dark side... .

Coming to good side... I agree 200% there were good philosophies and science formulas born in ancient India...

Baudhayana Sulbasutra (Pythagoras), sulabha sutra, brahma gupta siddanta, beeja ghannitha siddantha..etc math related formulas....bhudda philosophy of desire, Jain philosophy of ahimsa, Hindu philosophy like various topics like identity and after death..etc (in upanishads), ajeeva philosophy of determinism..etc

In one word India was rich with full of theories and philosophies....it was ancient India....

 

Now the dark side....why this philosophies and theories are disappeared among common people..? We had a caste prejudice in society....like kshatriyas for all wars..brahmins for literature and other smart things...and other castes for other things...so these kind of theories and philosophies didn't reach to common people and eventually lost the existence...

In my opinion if all the ancient work was widely available for everyone in those days irrespective of caste they would have survive till today as part of the culture...

were they not available to everyone in ancient india?

to receive the knowledge is also a blessing..lot of unknown forces act on a person.

just like youtube and internet.. some take positive info and gain knowledge

others enjoy reels and fun..

[ranku_mogudu]

7 minutes ago, Arya_Raoo said:

Mee rajulandaru ilane chillar jokes chestara

Oka Id Lo ralevu ! Fake ID’s tho tirigey fake pakodi gadivi kadha bro 😂😂

[maverick19]

11 hours ago, pushparaj said:

Think of Brahmins as learned class, the one who had education. They were the ones who were educated and discovered things and wrote books and sastras. May be some non Brahmins also did, I don’t know.

 

they dominated those times and protected their own class by not sharing that knowledge. It’s unfortunate. May be that’s why the knowledge got lost because they were super protective.

 

so, your friend is partially right. 

Not sharing knowledge? they did share knowledge as u said it was learned class anybody can become brahmin. All the knowledge was burnt by invaders. it was said books in takshasila took 30 days to burn.google Indian universities takshasila etc. 

[Arya_Raoo]

2 hours ago, ranku_mogudu said:

Oka Id Lo ralevu ! Fake ID’s tho tirigey fake pakodi gadivi kadha bro 😂😂

Id ban cheste em cheyali ra maidanam

[anna_gari_maata]

5 hours ago, bharathicement said:

1. American thing: This is the whole purpose why I created this thread. American is nothing but another version of European Supremacism. They dominated in the past and will dominate in the future. Whole Indians are side-kicks in this process, not just Brahmins. Also Pakis, Arabs, Japs and Chinese too.. all as immigrants.

2. Indian Universities: Yes I heard Universities being burnt by Islamic invaders. But that was done by Turkish/Afghan and other Middle East invaders well before 1600 when European invaders started. If all documents were burnt up, how come Europeans copied Newtons Laws from Brahmins?

3. Indian Researchers: So called IITs produce not even 0.0001% of any useful Research papers produced by rest of the World. Except Homi Bhabha, all the remaining got fame in USA or Europe owing to the nature of value Europeans give to Education. Nothing to do with Brahmanism again. Also you should add Adbus Salaam, a Paki in that list

4. Tons of Indian Researchers:

5 hours ago, bharathicement said:

1. American thing: This is the whole purpose why I created this thread. American is nothing but another version of European Supremacism. They dominated in the past and will dominate in the future. Whole Indians are side-kicks in this process, not just Brahmins. Also Pakis, Arabs, Japs and Chinese too.. all as immigrants.

2. Indian Universities: Yes I heard Universities being burnt by Islamic invaders. But that was done by Turkish/Afghan and other Middle East invaders well before 1600 when European invaders started. If all documents were burnt up, how come Europeans copied Newtons Laws from Brahmins?

3. Indian Researchers: So called IITs produce not even 0.0001% of any useful Research papers produced by rest of the World. Except Homi Bhabha, all the remaining got fame in USA or Europe owing to the nature of value Europeans give to Education. Nothing to do with Brahmanism again. Also you should add Adbus Salaam, a Paki in that list

4. Tons of Indian Researchers: Firstly, they still do not produce anything which is considered 'Path breaking' in Physics. Yes, they get admissions for GCs in USA and story ends there. Also not just Indians, we have Arabians (who are considered dumb arses in general in the field of education) also excelling in education in USA. Also joined by Chinese, Pakis, Japs and Europeans any way.

Yes, they get admissions for GCs in USA and story ends there. Also not just Indians, we have Arabians (who are considered dumb arses in general in the field of education) also excelling in education in USA. Also joined by Chinese, Pakis, Japs and Europeans any way.

Frankly I am hearing for the first time that Newton copied from India. No one said that here... you are using some myth to propagate hate against one community is probably the agenda. 

Saying that they don't do path breaking, is naive. Research is not popularity fight to advertise.

In 1900s Physics and Physicists community don't even allow non-Europeans so what do you expect ? Did physicians tell where their sources come from ? Brahmin bash so that you can bootlick a racist, typical sycophancy. 

[ranku_mogudu]

55 minutes ago, Arya_Raoo said:

Id ban cheste em cheyali ra maidanam

Lafoot panulu chesthey Id ban e chestharu ra flower