Discussion with a Brahmin friend about European Science

[bharathicement]

8 minutes ago, anna_gari_maata said:

Frankly I am hearing for the first time that Newton copied from India. No one said that here... you are using some myth to propagate hate against one community is probably the agenda. 

Saying that they don't do path breaking, is naive. Research is not popularity fight to advertise.

In 1900s Physics and Physicists community don't even allow non-Europeans so what do you expect ? Did physicians tell where their sources come from ? Brahmin bash so that you can bootlick a racist, typical sycophancy. 

1. Thats only one reference but when I spoke casually many Brahmins have shown this attitude..that all the core concepts of European Physics were having basis taken from Indian Science. My point is when Nalanda/Takshasila were burnt by P!slamic invaders way before 1600s, how come Indian Science became foundation for European Physics?

2. 90% of those Indians who enrol for PhDs in USA are for speeding up their GCs...some are exceptions anyway. Also not just Indians, immigrants from every nation including P!slamic nations thrive in USA, thanks to EQUAL and Non-Discrimination nature of USA Eco-system

3. Refer to Point 2 above.

 

[hyperbole]

15 hours ago, bharathicement said:

Had a discussion with a Brahmin friend recently about European Scientists especially German Physicists, 1600-1945 (till about end of WW-2) when all the Glory and Power of Europe was transferred to USA.

I just discussed about this guy and his company:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Zeiss_AG

Its about 1850 time and see the kind of Scientific Prowess Germany developed nearly 200 years ago.

Then HE was totally upset and got serious with me. He said that its all bull sh!t. India had all this under Indian Scientists (he meant Brahmins) 1000 years ago.

Europe has stolen all this and established Cambridge and Oxford Universities.

Germans then stole it from UK Universities.

As an expert on Brahmanism, I request  @Telugodura456  to shed some light. And compare and contrast German Scientists and Indian Brahmins from Physics view point.

 

 

You are right, the reason for this is invention of printing press, before this era islam and christians were on the conquests and ceeding countries to one another in eastern europe and other areas.

the printing led to rapid innovation and passing of the knowledge to people and this led to distancing themselves away from churches as they began to question and seek anwsers scientifically.

even though muslim had access to printing press they believed that prininth qurtan would suffocate or not good for their god

[maverick19]

15 hours ago, bharathicement said:

1. American thing: This is the whole purpose why I created this thread. American is nothing but another version of European Supremacism. They dominated in the past and will dominate in the future. Whole Indians are side-kicks in this process, not just Brahmins. Also Pakis, Arabs, Japs and Chinese too.. all as immigrants.

2. Indian Universities: Yes I heard Universities being burnt by Islamic invaders. But that was done by Turkish/Afghan and other Middle East invaders well before 1600 when European invaders started. If all documents were burnt up, how come Europeans copied Newtons Laws from Brahmins?

3. Indian Researchers: So called IITs produce not even 0.0001% of any useful Research papers produced by rest of the World. Except Homi Bhabha, all the remaining got fame in USA or Europe owing to the nature of value Europeans give to Education. Nothing to do with Brahmanism again. Also you should add Adbus Salaam, a Paki in that list

4. Tons of Indian Researchers: Firstly, they still do not produce anything which is considered 'Path breaking' in Physics. Yes, they get admissions for GCs in USA and story ends there. Also not just Indians, we have Arabians (who are considered dumb arses in general in the field of education) also excelling in education in USA. Also joined by Chinese, Pakis, Japs and Europeans any way.

Dude dont think all of them are burnt down. there was something left out else how would today people know cite some shastras and stuff.  majority was burnt down with those major universities. 

point 3 & 4 are sadly the situation now. 

again your friend is not wrong. 

Calculus created in India 250 years before Newton: study

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/calculus-created-in-india-250-years-before-newton-study-1.632433

 

The below link is for somebody who think india didnot have anything significant historically. universities are not stood up for they are there to teach. just ranting on one community and saying they didnot share knowledge is  not right. 

https://www.factdesk.in/2021/11/Top 10 Ancient Indian Universities Destroyed By Islamic Invaders.html

 

 

[dasari4kntr]

4 hours ago, maverick19 said:

Dude dont think all of them are burnt down. there was something left out else how would today people know cite some shastras and stuff.  majority was burnt down with those major universities. 

point 3 & 4 are sadly the situation now. 

again your friend is not wrong. 

Calculus created in India 250 years before Newton: study

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/calculus-created-in-india-250-years-before-newton-study-1.632433

 

The below link is for somebody who think india didnot have anything significant historically. universities are not stood up for they are there to teach. just ranting on one community and saying they didnot share knowledge is  not right. 

https://www.factdesk.in/2021/11/Top 10 Ancient Indian Universities Destroyed By Islamic Invaders.html

 

 

 

do you think..before islamic invasion..we have that society where all the knowledge is shared to commoners..?

if you..say yes...i have few points...to ask...

[Tryad]

13 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

do you think..before islamic invasion..we have that society where all the knowledge is shared to commoners..?

if you..say yes...i have few points...to ask...

dude dont bother. first learn to answer a question, before going around 'asking' lame questions.

silly thread esadu @bharathicement gaadu.. malli daaniki discussion.

db yodhudu anipinchukunnav ra @bharathicement db ki tagina post esav. andaru daayer tearing.

[Tryad]

There's no such thing as European science.

vaadevado gottam gaadu insecurity tho edhedho paniki raani chethha oohinchu kuntunnadu.

[Tryad]

25 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

do you think..before islamic invasion..we have that society where all the knowledge is shared to commoners..?

if you..say yes...i have few points...to ask...

i have a question to ask.

do you think other medieval societies were sharing knowledge to their commoners? sharing knowledge broadly is a modern civilizational triumph. Earlier it only used to be passed on to families.

[dasari4kntr]

5 hours ago, maverick19 said:

Dude dont think all of them are burnt down. there was something left out else how would today people know cite some shastras and stuff.  majority was burnt down with those major universities. 

point 3 & 4 are sadly the situation now. 

again your friend is not wrong. 

Calculus created in India 250 years before Newton: study

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/calculus-created-in-india-250-years-before-newton-study-1.632433

 

The below link is for somebody who think india didnot have anything significant historically. universities are not stood up for they are there to teach. just ranting on one community and saying they didnot share knowledge is  not right. 

https://www.factdesk.in/2021/11/Top 10 Ancient Indian Universities Destroyed By Islamic Invaders.html

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

do you think..before islamic invasion..we have that society where all the knowledge is shared to commoners..?

if you..say yes...i have few points...to ask...

 

see this story...this is our indian society before any invaders...

knowledge was never shared...if any commoner (shudra) learn it by interest...he will be slayed in the name of dharma...so all vedas and knowledge is protected as brahmins property..

 

  Valmiki Ramayan I Gita Press Gorakhpur by MahaMuni महामुनि का संग्रह"

Shambuka (Sanskrit: शम्बूक, IAST: śambūka) is an interpolated character, which is not found in the original Valmiki Ramayana but in the later addition called "Uttara Kanda".^[1][2][3] According to the story, Shambuka, a shudra ascetic, was killed by Rama for attempting to perform tapas in violation of dharma, resulting in the bad karma which caused the death of a Brahmin's son.^[4]

This story was created at a later period.^{[2][5][6][7][8]} In Jain literature, story of Shambuka is different and he is Surpanakha’s son.^[9]

Story[edit]

According to this story, when Rama was ruling Ayodhya, a Brahmin approached the court and told everyone that his young son has died due to the misrule of Rama. Rama immediately called a meeting with all his ministers and enquired about the cause of this. The sage Narada told him that this has happened due to a violation of a rule of tapas (austerities). Narada informed him that a shudra was performing tapas, which was prohibited in the age of Treta. So Rama went in search of the shudra and found the place where Shambuka was performing penance. After confirming that Shambuka is indeed a shudra, Rama killed him. The gods praised Rama for this act and congratulated him for protecting their interests and for not allowing shudra to attain heaven in person. Brahmin's son was also resurrected.^[2][7]

[Tryad]

Just now, dasari4kntr said:

 

 

see this story...this is our indian society before any invaders...

knowledge was never shared...if any commoner (shudra) learn it by interest...he will be slayed in the name of dharma...so all vedas and knowledge is protected as brahmins property..

 

  Valmiki Ramayan I Gita Press Gorakhpur by MahaMuni महामुनि का संग्रह"

Shambuka (Sanskrit: शम्बूक, IAST: śambūka) is an interpolated character, which is not found in the original Valmiki Ramayana but in the later addition called "Uttara Kanda".^[1][2][3] According to the story, Shambuka, a shudra ascetic, was killed by Rama for attempting to perform tapas in violation of dharma, resulting in the bad karma which caused the death of a Brahmin's son.^[4]

This story was created at a later period.^{[2][5][6][7][8]} In Jain literature, story of Shambuka is different and he is Surpanakha’s son.^[9]

Story[edit]

According to this story, when Rama was ruling Ayodhya, a Brahmin approached the court and told everyone that his young son has died due to the misrule of Rama. Rama immediately called a meeting with all his ministers and enquired about the cause of this. The sage Narada told him that this has happened due to a violation of a rule of tapas (austerities). Narada informed him that a shudra was performing tapas, which was prohibited in the age of Treta. So Rama went in search of the shudra and found the place where Shambuka was performing penance. After confirming that Shambuka is indeed a shudra, Rama killed him. The gods praised Rama for this act and congratulated him for protecting their interests and for not allowing shudra to attain heaven in person. Brahmin's son was also resurrected.^[2][7]

dude, there was no medieval society that shared their knowledge with commoners. Plus most of these technical knowledge in India and elsewhere was not created by the elites, but by artisans, who kept on passing their knowledge to their kids.

the problem with Indian society's lack of scientific achievements then, and now, is crybabies like you that have zero conception of this thing called dialogue, but want to control the narrative with bs antics.

its true both for brahmins, and for comfortably placed arrogant asses like you.

[Tryad]

5 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

knowledge was never shared...if any commoner (shudra) learn it by interest...he will be slayed in the name of dharma...so all vedas and knowledge is protected as brahmins property..

vedas is not 'knowledge', majority of it was just bs rituals that are irrelevant to society.

there are other compelling reasons why India hasn't taken off. like the one I pointed out.

a society that encourages close minded assholes like you, will never progress. Its true. Lets not just blame brahmins

 

[Tryad]

14 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

see this story...this is our indian society before any invaders...

knowledge was never shared...if any commoner (shudra) learn it by interest...he will be slayed in the name of dharma...so all vedas and knowledge is protected as brahmins property..

brahmins were not the only ones creating 'knowledge' in medieval India. So the charge that they never shared it with others is only useful if you take into account that other castes also refused to share their knowledge with others.

new knowledge and processes emerge only when old ones are fused together creatively. It probably happened only in short bursts over Indian bronze age, and caste attitudes had tightened a lot by the medieval age. Its every caste/tribe for itself.

don't think even brahmins could demand fealty beyond the tiny following they commanded that too only if the reigning king respected their bs rituals. Hinduism is a modern creation. everything cannot be easily categorized into silos to blame one particular group for everything.

especially for someone as closeminded as you are. You should think twice before you put blame on brahmins, given you yourself behave like one now. refusing to answer basic questions and using the crowd to bully others. have some shame. lmao.

[bharathicement]

5 hours ago, Tryad said:

There's no such thing as European science.

vaadevado gottam gaadu insecurity tho edhedho paniki raani chethha oohinchu kuntunnadu.

European Science vundhi ani neenu analeedhu.. I just coined the term "European Science" just to refer to the domination European countries have had 1600-1945 on Physics, Chemistry and Medicine.

The country you are devouring at the moment, USA is nothing but ultimate manifestation of European Science.

Islamic invaders burn down cheesinaa.. Calculus maatram vodileesaaru antaav. Ok partially agreed. But then there is no standard reference or place. How come Newton stole them? Where did he get? Did he come down to India in search of Calculus?

Brahmins might be good. But Brahmanism destroyed India. You can't deny this fact. Europeans did collaborate inside and outside their societies thats why they dominated the World.

 

[bharathicement]

4 hours ago, Tryad said:

brahmins were not the only ones creating 'knowledge' in medieval India. So the charge that they never shared it with others is only useful if you take into account that other castes also refused to share their knowledge with others.

new knowledge and processes emerge only when old ones are fused together creatively. It probably happened only in short bursts over Indian bronze age, and caste attitudes had tightened a lot by the medieval age. Its every caste/tribe for itself.

don't think even brahmins could demand fealty beyond the tiny following they commanded that too only if the reigning king respected their bs rituals. Hinduism is a modern creation. everything cannot be easily categorized into silos to blame one particular group for everything.

especially for someone as closeminded as you are. You should think twice before you put blame on brahmins, given you yourself behave like one now. refusing to answer basic questions and using the crowd to bully others. have some shame. lmao.

abbba...abba... yeemi chepithiri yeemi chepithiri.

By 1947, India was full of AGRAHAARAMS... ... what the fcuk they stand stood for?

Except Kshatriya houses and AGRAHAARAMS... Rest all are untouchable Ghettos.

Brahmins knowledge sharing refuse cheyyaleedhu.. but Sudras refused to Learn from them.. WHAT A NOBLE winning revelation mate?

By 1947, all the positions of IAS, IPS & Civil Servants roles (Under British Empire) were only occupied by Brahmins? Is it because every other caste refused to do those jobs?

I am happy that Indian Society least cares about this Brahmanism now.. They have been taught a lesson. Like in TamilNadu, it should happen every where..they should be kicked out to the outskirts of the Society.

NB: Only when Knowledge and Education got into the masses, did India develop. Not because of Brahminic Science.

[bharathicement]

5 hours ago, Tryad said:

vedas is not 'knowledge', majority of it was just bs rituals that are irrelevant to society.

there are other compelling reasons why India hasn't taken off. like the one I pointed out.

a society that encourages close minded assholes like you, will never progress. Its true. Lets not just blame brahmins

 

Cool bro. There are no compelling reasons other than Brahmin domination and Untouchability they brought into Indian Society..

Its because of this Untouchability, people en masse converted to Islam during 1526-1757.

Then Christian Conversions from 1757-1947 and till today just because of this Untouchability.

 

Brahmins have such a cruel mentality:

By 1947, Brahmins have Calendar with rituals.. weekly and monthly calendars..do you know why?

Its a scheme and schema to provide protein, fats and Carbohydrates at the needed time and needed proportions, while rest of the castes die of hunger ...

How many Brahmins died of hunger during British Rule and how many non-Brahmins died?? Its obviously clear..Brhamins sided with Islamic rulers and Britishers to ensure their own luxuries.

 

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, bharathicement said:

Cool bro. There are no compelling reasons other than Brahmin domination and Untouchability they brought into Indian Society..

Its because of this Untouchability, people en masse converted to Islam during 1526-1757.

Then Christian Conversions from 1757-1947 and till today just because of this Untouchability.

 

Brahmins have such a cruel mentality:

By 1947, Brahmins have Calendar with rituals.. weekly and monthly calendars..do you know why?

Its a scheme and schema to provide protein, fats and Carbohydrates at the needed time and needed proportions, while rest of the castes die of hunger ...

How many Brahmins died of hunger during British Rule and how many non-Brahmins died?? Its obviously clear..Brhamins sided with Islamic rulers and Britishers to ensure their own luxuries.

 

Unfortunately, they're still considered lower castes in their respective religions despite changing their religions. 

There's caste system no just in India or Hinduism but in the countries that has nothing to do with Hinduism such as Africa & Asian countries.

I don't know what your caste or religion is, I don't care. But it looks like you're a victim of soft core Islamic/missionary radicalism & a perfect candidate for religious conversion. You probably converted already. Again, it's up to you who to follow or not. It is usually said that when you're a hardcore hater of "so-called founders" of Hinduism, you will also hate the religion itself. I don't have to say who stands to benefit from this propagation of hatred against Brahmins & whose bidding you're doing without "their" direct intervention.

It is immature to believe that Brahmins alone are the root cause for all the evils that's happened in this country.

There are other prominent castes who were Kings & had had real power to enforce any laws on the people. These include Vaishyas eg: Gupta Empire, Reddy kings, Kamma zamindars.

Rulers from maternal side Shudra descendents -

Sir Sayajirao Gaekwad III - He was former ruler of Baroda State. His biological father, Kashirao Bhikajirao Dada Sahib Gaekwad was from cadet branch descends from a morganatic marriage of the first Raja of Baroda. Maharaja Pilajirao Gaekwad was married to a lower caste women and Sayaji’s family descended from the child of that marriage. Sayajirao was known as a great reformer, known for building Baroda State into modern state and patronizing people, e.g - Dr. B.R.Ambedkar, Sri Aurobindo, etc.

Mahapadma Nanda - Though he was Kshatriya by his father’s lineage but his mother was a Shudra from barber community. He was son of Mahanandin, king of Shishunaga Dynasty.

Shrimant Jayajirao Scindia - He was also an adopted son of Tarabai, the widow of Jankojirao Scindia II. Jayajirao’s family was also descended from a morganatic marriage of Scindia rulers.

Disputed origins -

Chandragupta Maurya - Founder of Maurya Empire and one of the greatest emperors in Indian history. Though there are various disputes about his lineage. Jain texts says, he belongs to a family of peacock rearers, Buddhist texts writes he belongs to Moriyas of Pippalivan (a Shakya Kshatriya), Greek and Latin writers describes him of humble origin and Sanskrit drama Mudrarakshasa as Mauryaputra or the son of Mura (Shudra woman). Buddhist texts are most earlier but it may have late interpolations may be after Emperor Ashoka, who became Buddhist but Chandragupta was a Jain. Many castes like Kushwahas (Koeris), Dalits, Rajputs, Koli, etc claims his lineage.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh - Founder of Sikh Empire. He is mostly claimed as Sikh of Jatt origin but have diputes related to his clan. But originally Ranjit Singh belonged to Sandhwalia Jatts. But many historians says that he belonged to Sansi (Dalit) caste. Ranjit Singh was also claimed as Bhatti Rajput but if we see the genealogy Sansis also have origin from Bhattis who became nomad after their defeat from Muslim rulers. Sandhwalias are Jats of Sansi origin and they lived in a place called Raja Sansi. So it’s highly probable that Maharaja was of Sansi origin.

Raja Phani Mukut Rai - He was founder of “Nagvanshi kingdom of Chotanagpur”. Though it’s beleived that he was son of Pundrika Naga and adopted by Raja Madra Munda, a tribal chief of Jharkhand. But the story is said mostly a myth and defuncted by many historians. The only source of his lineage comes from Nagvanshavali, which was converted into an abstract by the Rakhal Das Haldar (former manager of Chota Nagpur Raj) which is based on beleifs. It’s mostly probable that he is also a Munda.

Rulers from direct non-Aryan or Scheduled Caste descendents -

Avanti Varman - The founder of Utpal Dynasty of Kashmir. In Ain-i-Akbari by Abu Fazl it is mentioned that he was from Chamar caste.

Raja Chintamoni Dhoba - Ruler of Dhalbhum and established capital at Ambikanagar (W.B).

Maharaja Medini Ray - The 13th ruler of Chero Dynasty who captured Bihar, Jharkhand & some part of U.P. Chero Dynasty was founded by Nagvanshi tribal king, Ghughulia. Medini Ray also built Palamu Fort and fought war against Mughal general, Daud Khan. Cheros aslo fought against Mughal generals, Shaista Khan, Mirza Raja Man Singh I, Khawas Khan, Nagvanshis of Navratangarh and the Ujjainiya Rajputs.

Raja Mayurdhwaj - Former ruler of Shravasti. His genealogy can be traced through writings of Alexander Cunningham, based on the traditional accounts of Tharu Rajas of Gonda.

Raja Suheldev - Ruler of Shravasti and was son of Raja Mayurdhwaj. He defeated and killed the Ghaznavid general Ghazi Salar Masud in conquest of Bahraich. He is mentioned in the 17th cen. Persian-language historical romance ‘Mirat-i-Masudi’. Amish Tripathi wrote a novel, Suhaldev and the Battle of Bahraich based on him. Though Suheldev’s lineage is claimed by many castes, e.g - Rajbhars & Pasis of U.P, Bais Rajputs, some claims him as Nagvanshi,etc.

Raja Dal Dev – He was ruler of Rae Bareli region and had capital at Dalmau, which was named after him.

Raja Satan Pasi – Ruled around the regions of Unnao-Sitapur and had capital at Satankot (Bangarmau). He fought war bravely against Jai Chand and Alha-Udal in which Bijli Pasi died. Later he fought in Battle of Bahraich against Ghazi Salar Sahu, brother in law of Ghaznavi and became successful. He was killed in an uprising at Jaunpur.

Raja Bijli Pasi – The bravest king of Pasi Dynasty who ruled Central U.P. He fought war against Rajput king, Jai Chand and Alha & Udal (military generals of Chandel kings) in which he got martyred. Bijli Pasi’s former capital was at Bijnor and later at Natvagarh.

Lakhan Pasi – He was the ruler of Central U.P and founded the capital city, Lucknow which was named after him ‘Lakhanpur‘.

Raja Jas – A Pasi chieftain and founder of Jasnaul which later, after the Muslim conquest of the region, came to be known as Bara Banki.

Rulers from direct non-Aryan or Scheduled Tribe descendents -

Yalamber - The founder of Kirat Kingdom in Nepal around 800BC. Kiratas are also mentioned in Hindu epic, Mahabharata as Maleccha tribes.

Eklavya - A Nishada prince and son of Vyatraj Hiranyadhanus, the king of Nishadas. He was also commander-in-chief of Jarasandha’s army.

Rao Poonja Bhil - Raja of Bhomat (hilly tract of Mewar) and fought in Battle of Haldighati with Maharana Pratap with his 400 archers.

Raja Kotiya Bhil - He was ruler of Akelgarh (Kota) and after his death in war Kota was founded and named after him.

Raja Bunda Singh Meena - First ruler of Bundi and named the area as “Bunda-Ka-Nal”.

Raja Jaita Meena - Ruler of Bundi and was son of Bunda Meena. Later, he got defeated by Hada Rajputs. Jaita Meena also constructed Jait Sagar in Bundi.

Rao Bada Meena - Raja of Naen (Nayan) and built of fort which was destroyed by Kacchwaha Rajputs & Mughals.

Raja Alan Singh Chanda - First ruler of Dhundhar (Jaipur region). He built the first structure of Amer Fort which was earlier known as Khogong and then built Aasawari Devi Temple in Jaipur. He was overthrown by Kacchwaha Rajputs with the help of Dhola Rai, a Rajput orphan raised by Chanda Meenas themselves.

Raja Asha Bhil - He was ruler of Ashaval, present day Ahmedabad and the hillock near Astodia Darwaja was known as 'Asha Bhil-no-Tekro'. He was defeated by Chalukya king, Karna.

Raja Manohar Bhil - He was ruler of Manohar Thana and also built a fort their. Later his son, Chakrasen Bhil also ruled the area.

Raja Bansiya Bhil - He was founder and ruler of Banswada (Rajasthan).

Raja Jaitsi Parmar Bhil - He was former ruler of Arbuda (Mount Abu) and belongs to Parmar clan.

Raja Vishwasu Bhil - A tribal ruler of Odisha and he was the person who kept Jagannathpuri’s Neelmadhav statue as their kin god and later the idol was placed at Jagannath Temple.

Raja Mandalik - Ruler of Idar (Sabarkantha). He patronized the Guhilot dynasty or the first founder of Mewar by placing Guhaditya in his Idar kingdom. Guhaditya lived in the palace of raja and rode with Bhil boys. Raja Mandlik gave some land and forest to him, later he became the king of the Idar. Later, the 4th Guhilot raja Nagaditya fought war against Bhils but got defeated and Bhils regained power in the area.

Raja Niladhwaj - Founder of Khen dynasty in Assam. His son Shukaldhwaj and Nilambar the kingdom and expanded in till Mymensingh and undivided Kamrup. Last king was defeated by Alauddin Hussain Shah, the Sultan of Bengal. They belonged to tribal Koch caste of Bengal.

Maharaja Biswa Singha - Founder and first ruler of Koch Dynasty (undivided) after the fall of Kamarup Kingdom. He defeated Baro-Bhuyans and ruled the area making it a buffer state to Kingdom of Gaur and Ahoms.

Maharaja Nara Narayana - Second ruler of Koch Dynasty and son of Biswa Singha. He captured whole North East defeating Ahoms, Jaintia, Tippera and Kachari rulers. He was overthrown by Sultan of Bengal, Suleiman Karrani. He gave Srimanta Sankardeva, the first royal patronage to Ekasarana Dharma.

Chilarai - He was step-son of Biswa Singha and commander-in-chief of Koch Dynasty. Under his control kingdom reached to it’s zenith, he was the first ruler who used guirella warfare and built destroyed portions of Kamakhya Temple.

Maharaja Laxmi Narayan - He was founder of Koch Behar kingdom after the split of Koch Dynasty. Laxmi Narayan was son of Nara Narayan and ruled Cooch Behar State. Maharani Gayatri Devi was daughter of Maharaja Jitendra Narayan of the kingdom and she was married to Sawai Man Singh II of Jaipur State.

Maharaja Raghudeva - He was ruler of Koch Hajo dynasty, an eastern split of Koch Dynasty. He was adopted son of Chilarai and Raghu’s som Parikshit Narayan later ruled the state and the kingdom was defeated by Islam Khan I and Amil of Sylhet, Muhammad Zaman Karori of Tehran.

Raja Chandra Narayan - He established Bijni kingdom and was son of Koch Hajo ruler, Parikshit Narayan.

Malharrao Holkar I - He was commander of Maratha Empire under Peshwas and founder of Holkar Dynasty. He belonged Dhangar caste and his descendents ruled Indore State.

Jadurai - He was founder of Garha-Mandala kingdom of Gonds after disposing Kalachuris.

Sangram Shah - He was 48th ruler of Gond Dynasty (Garha-Mandala) and conquered half of the Central India including 52 forts. He also built Chouragarh Fort at Narshinghpur.

Dalpat Shah - He was 49th ruler of the Garha-Mandala Gond dynasty and was husband of Chandel Rajput princess, Rani Durgawati who fought against Mughals after his death.

Raja Jatba - Founder of Deogarh Gond Dynasty.

Raja Bakht Buland Shah - He was ruler of Deogarh Gond Dynasty and founded the city of Nagpur. He got converted into Islam but married among Gonds.

Raja Khandkya Ballal Shah - Ruler of Chanda Gond Dynasty, who later shifted his capital at Chandrapur from Ballarpur. He also built Anchaleshwar Temple, Chandapur Fort and Chandrapur Mahakali Temple.

Narsingh Rai - The founder of Kherla Gond Dynasty.

Maha Manikya - He was founder of Kingdom of Tripura and belongs to indigenous Tripuri tribe.

Nareshchandra Singh - Raja of Sarangarh State (Chattisgarh) and former Chief Minister of Madhya Pradesh.

Pratapdhavala - Founder of Khayaravala dynasty, established capital at Japla (present Hussainabad, Jharkhand)

Shri Pratapa - Last ruler of Khayaravala dynasty who also captured Rohtas Fort (Sasaram).

Qasim Yakut Khan - Founder of Janjira State and Naval admiral and administrator of Janjira Fort who first served under Bijapur Sultanate and later under the Mughal Empire.

Maharaja Shrimant Yashwantraoji Martandraoji Mukne - Last ruler of Mukne Dynasty of Jawhar.

Bhikaji Rao - Ruler of Surgana State of Nashik

Nawab Sidi Ibrahim Muhammad Yakut Khan III - Ruler of Sachin State.

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Read about V.S. Naipul- a Nobel Laureate

In the 1880s, Naipaul's paternal grandfather had emigrated from British India to work as an indentured laborer in a sugar plantation. In the 1890s, his maternal grandfather was to do the same. During this time, many people in India, their prospects blighted by the Great Famine of 1876–78, or similar calamities, had emigrated to distant outposts of the British Empire such as Trinidad, British Guiana, Jamaica, Fiji, Mauritius, Natal, East Africa, Malaya, the French colonies of Martinique and Guadeloupe, and the Dutch colony of Suriname. Although slavery had been abolished in these places in 1833, slave labour was still in demand, and indenture was the legal contract being drawn to meet the demand.

According to the genealogy the Naipauls had reconstructed in Trinidad, they were Hindu Brahmins—embraced from the knowledge of his mother's family; his father's background had remained less certain.