IIT mumbai fines 50,000 for using same stove(not same utensils) to cook veg and chicken

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6 minutes ago, Tryad said:

yeah I lost almost all my periyar circle friends (barring few) since I declared I'm vegan and started arguing with them about how their choice to eat meat, and encouraging others to eat meat (especially poor dalits) is both unethical and bordering on criminal negligence to the fact that India suffers a serious nutritional deficit, that can in fact be overcome by govt investing in providing much cheaper sources of protein and other minerals.

I'm neobrahmin now according to my former friends. lmao. I don't care about their mocking ofcourse. I haven't heard one solid argument, other than plain faced lying about how beef/chicken is cheaper than vegan protein, when I can get 1kg tofu at any bazaar (not corporate bazaar) for about 120-140rs. and other misogynist false claims about how tofu will feminize men. lmao.

but still, pushing puritanism based vegetarian practices in public spaces in India is definitely casteist, given India's history and the outsized power brahmins weild in India.

brahmins (those who want to be ritually pure) will not actually engage in a debate to justify their practices. They will use institutions in India to bulldoze through others and get their way. and you want me to feel sorrrry for these people?

this behaviour is definitely casteist. It goes far beyond just being vegetarian.

The Chinese have been eating Tofu since the Han Dynasty i.e 202 BC. As far as I know, men are still men & they're world's most populated country until very recently.

It doesn't make sense because a lot of temples in India offer meat & liquor to gods & godesses & the priests not only do they consume the "prasad" but also distribute it to the devotees. Bengali Brahmins eat Fish as far as I know. Gaud Saraswat Brahmins are believed to be descendents of those Jews who came to Kerala during King Solomon’s time about 2,900 years ago, and from Kerala they arrived in Mangalore and Goa. Some of them who are not priests are said to consume meat although this rumor should be corraborated. This puritanism practice is definitely region based as it doesn't seem like it's a universal practice across India. 

It's a coalition of power sharing among Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vysyas, Shudras-Yadav Kings, Meenas of Rajasthan(now classified as ST)  (in the South- some examples: The Chola Kings, Reddys, Kammas, Nairs) etc., 

Many people who were classified as Sudhras today also ruled kingdoms for centuries.

No singular caste ever had all the power by themselves. That was not the power structure in ancient India. 

First of all, to bulldoze anything, they need to have electoral power. Their population is believed to less than 5% in India. If they had any power close what they're being accused, we would not be having these discussions because that tweet wouldn't have been tweeted in the first place. 

They're being accused by those who have 75% of the electoral power in India. This is nothing but majoritarian caste nationalism.

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34 minutes ago, Tryad said:

what is their religious right? to demand separate stoves wherever they go? don't be silly.

there are plenty of places in India where meat eaters won't be allowed. No such spaces where veggies won't be. so you tell you who's imposing what on whom?

Would you go to a mosque & demand that you be allowed to eat non-halal meat or pork? They would ask you to respect their religious beliefs. Similarly, if you want to eat meat, eat with those who eat along with you. Terrorizing those who don't share your eating habits is also a form of terrorism.

[Telugodura456]

9 hours ago, rushmore said:

There's nothing wrong in asking for "Vegetaria safe spaces" to practice people's religious & food beliefs. Just like you don't take your well done pork steak into "Halal" safespaces just to respect people's religious beliefs. These people don't dare to take their Non-Veg Non-halal majoritarian mindset to the people practicing "Halal food practices" because they know about the reaction.

THis post shows the standard india-pakistan mindset. It is not a "safe space" BTW - it is a DOMINANT space. Most of the space is with these wealthy people and if rushmore claims that he comes from meat eater caste is true - then these are spaces which look at him and his parents nad grandparents with distaste.

Also this is why india can never be a nation. Only in that mental hospital you will have one line for one group of people and another line based on eating habit. Nations are born with brotherhood. Indian culture is the MOST anti-brotherhood that can ever exist in world.

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53 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

THis post shows the standard india-pakistan mindset. It is not a "safe space" BTW - it is a DOMINANT space. Most of the space is with these wealthy people and if rushmore claims that he comes from meat eater caste is true - then these are spaces which look at him and his parents nad grandparents with distaste.

Also this is why india can never be a nation. Only in that mental hospital you will have one line for one group of people and another line based on eating habit. Nations are born with brotherhood. Indian culture is the MOST anti-brotherhood that can ever exist in world.

Why is it a dominant space when vegetarians are just asking these people who are Non-Vegetarains  & happen to be majority castes in terms of population. Why this majoritarian mindset to trample on the rights of the caste & religious minorities? It is not a even safe space at this point. It is a "Vegetarian refugee camp" where the vegetarians who happen to be from every caste, religion, gender, race screaming in help to respect their eating habits. 

It's undemocratic to impose "Non-Vegetarianism" on these tiny minorities & against the values of the Constitution. 

Most of those who practice Vegetarians in India come from minority castes & religions with poor backgrounds that even the government of India felt compelled to introduce "Economically weaker sections" reservation as these people cannot afford to study & have physical & mental disadvantages over meat eating consuming majoritarian castes. So, these people are far from being wealthy. Actually being able to consume meat is a sign of wealth as poor people cannot afford to eat on a daily basis.

As I already mentioned, even those so-called priests consume meat in the form of "prasad" & there are many who consume fish as part of their diet. It just depends upon where one lives. It's more of a regional thing than everything else. If vegetarians looking at the meat eaters with distate is even remotely true, the Brahmins, the Vysyas the Jains, the Buddhists wouldn't have worked with the Kshatriya Kings, the Reddy Kings, The Kamma Kings & many other kings who happen to be shudras but Kings such as Chandragupta Maurya, The Cholas etc.,

Chanakya wouldn't have made Chandragupta Maurya the king because according to your logic, Chankaya should have looked at Chandragupta Maurya with distate.

Sri Krishnadevaraya should be looked at with distate by ashtadiggajas because the King consumed meat...!

But in reality everybody worked with everyone irrespective of caste, religion & gender because they lived & fought for their religion & nation. They didn't spew venom on Brahmins or the Vysyas or the Jains or the Buddhists just because they practiced vegetarianism. 

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25 minutes ago, rushmore said:

Why is it a dominant space when vegetarians are just asking these people who are Non-Vegetarains  & happen to be majority castes in terms of population. Why this majoritarian mindset to trample on the rights of the caste & religious minorities? It is not a even safe space at this point. It is a "Vegetarian refugee camp" where the vegetarians who happen to be from every caste, religion, gender, race screaming in help to respect their eating habits. 

It's undemocratic to impose "Non-Vegetarianism" on these tiny minorities & against the values of the Constitution. 

Most of those who practice Vegetarians in India come from minority castes & religions with poor backgrounds that even the government of India felt compelled to introduce "Economically weaker sections" reservation as these people cannot afford to study & have physical & mental disadvantages over meat eating consuming majoritarian castes. So, these people are far from being wealthy. Actually being able to consume meat is a sign of wealth as poor people cannot afford to eat on a daily basis.

As I already mentioned, even those so-called priests consume meat in the form of "prasad" & there are many who consume fish as part of their diet. It just depends upon where one lives. It's more of a regional thing than everything else. If vegetarians looking at the meat eaters with distate is even remotely true, the Brahmins, the Vysyas the Jains, the Buddhists wouldn't have worked with the Kshatriya Kings, the Reddy Kings, The Kamma Kings & many other kings who happen to be shudras but Kings such as Chandragupta Maurya, The Cholas etc.,

Chanakya wouldn't have made Chandragupta Maurya the king because according to your logic, Chankaya should have looked at Chandragupta Maurya with distate.

Sri Krishnadevaraya should be looked at with distate by ashtadiggajas because the King consumed meat...!

But in reality everybody worked with everyone irrespective of caste, religion & gender because they lived & fought for their religion & nation. They didn't spew venom on Brahmins or the Vysyas or the Jains or the Buddhists just because they practiced vegetarianism. 

yendho sodhi. Vegeterians are the richest in india ra - not in andhra - we are lucky that way. But in UP, bihar, gujrat etc in all those horrible places they are the wealthiest - getting a house of rent is also hard if you eat some frigging chicken.

One of my freinds who is from IIT M found getting a house difficult even in bangalore because he eats chicken.

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10 hours ago, rushmore said:

When you don't complain on people demanding "Halal" or "Kosher" in compliance with their religious beliefs, you shouldn't also complain people wanting to have vegetarian food being cooked in different utensils from the non vegetarian food. There are also other religious minorities such as Jains who pratice strict vegetarianism. Imposing majoritarian "Non-Veg" mindset on minorities is undemocratic & infringing on the rights of minorities.

If you cook pork in the same utensils as other "halal" meat, the reaction would be the most violent one. 

Don't impose Non Vegetarian majoritarian mindset on people with vegetarian food habits. The same is true for the opposite.

same feeling asalu

lowda prati dantlo halal endi ? 

 

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4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

yendho sodhi. Vegeterians are the richest in india ra - not in andhra - we are lucky that way. But in UP, bihar, gujrat etc in all those horrible places they are the wealthiest - getting a house of rent is also hard if you eat some frigging chicken.

One of my freinds who is from IIT M found getting a house difficult even in bangalore because he eats chicken.

In UP, Bihar- Yadavs, Kurmi, Kushwaha & Muslims have the most significant politcal influence & are rich. Please check out once. It looks like you don't about much of what's happening outside of Krishna & Guntur let alone Andhra. 

నీ ఫ్రెండ్ ఎవరికో చికెన్ తింటే ఇల్లు  ఇవ్వలేదని లేకపోతే పంది మాంసం తింటే ముస్లిమ్స్ ఇల్లు అద్దెకి ఇవ్వట్లేదని వాదిస్తే అది మూర్ఖత్వం అవుతుంది. నీ చుట్టూ, నీ ఫ్రెండ్స్ చుట్టూ భారత దేశ రాజకీయాలు, కుల మతాల సమీకరణాలు జరగవు కదా! 

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1 minute ago, rushmore said:

In UP, Bihar- Yadavs, Kurmi, Kushwaha & Muslims have the most significant politcal influence & are rich. Please check out once. It looks like you don't about much of what's happening outside of Krishna & Guntur let alone Andhra. 

నీ ఫ్రెండ్ ఎవరికో చికెన్ తింటే ఇల్లు  ఇవ్వలేదని లేకపోతే పంది మాంసం తింటే ముస్లిమ్స్ ఇల్లు అద్దెకి ఇవ్వట్లేదని వాదిస్తే అది మూర్ఖత్వం అవుతుంది. నీ చుట్టూ, నీ ఫ్రెండ్స్ చుట్టూ భారత దేశ రాజకీయాలు, కుల మతాల సమీకరణాలు జరగవు కదా! 

Edisaavulera. maa lokam gaadivi.

Nee brathukantha one line if you eat this and other line if you eat that. You will never know what brotherhood means with this attitude. You think you are smart but i actually pity you.

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10 minutes ago, kevinUsa said:

same feeling asalu

lowda prati dantlo halal endi ? 

 

yeppudu adhe gola. Ikkada veggie monsters sangathendhi ante --akkada halal sangathi yenti antu counter.

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2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

yeppudu adhe gola. Ikkada veggie monsters sangathendhi ante --akkada halal sangathi yenti antu counter.

Y people want to sell halal for 

 

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2 minutes ago, kevinUsa said:

Y people want to sell halal for 

 

Halal ante actual gaaa before this mass marketing days

Therr was a process how to raise,  how to kill animals with mercy , how they get treated chala through process unayi okaru emo vatiki noppi teliyakunda champagne, when they get raised koncham open spaces lo etc etc 

God knows how they will be treated in these mass production Era and what significance halal meat certification has how they validate 

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15 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Edisaavulera. maa lokam gaadivi.

Nee brathukantha one line if you eat this and other line if you eat that. You will never know what brotherhood means with this attitude. You think you are smart but i actually pity you.

నీ లాగా కులo పేరిట విషం చిమ్మే వాళ్ళతో ఎటువంటి సోదరభావాన్ని ఆశిస్తున్నావని ఈ DB ప్రజలు నిన్ను ప్రశ్నిస్తున్నారు! 

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8 minutes ago, csrcsr said:

Halal ante actual gaaa before this mass marketing days

Therr was a process how to raise,  how to kill animals with mercy , how they get treated chala through process unayi okaru emo vatiki noppi teliyakunda champagne, when they get raised koncham open spaces lo etc etc 

God knows how they will be treated in these mass production Era and what significance halal meat certification has how they validate 

They have "Halal certified" Muslim guy reading halal for animals. Yes, it is true.