400 Kms Hyderabad metro!

[Tryad]

2 minutes ago, shaktimaan said:

you suggested to increase housing density around hyd metro

metro lopala ante people who live in the city or within limits ani, ikkada puttinanduku ma karma ani oorkovaala

nenu 'metro' ani vaadindhi  for around metro stations..  not hyd metro.

already all corporations have announced higher FSI around metro stations, but that is not enough for people to build dense housing. The housing should be a mix of luxury, mid rise and even generous public housing.

this is what will benefit not just the metro train network, but entire hyd.. Not people living in some high luxury enclave 20kms away from core city and traveling to city for fun in metro train to feel proud of being hyderabadi.

[islander]

Endi ee sollu..of couse metro vaste most beneficial irrespective of lower/middle/upper middle class/rich..infra projects are not only for current population, future needs ki kuda..

but 400 kms at 69K cr in 3-5 yrs pakka election gimmick..

at least 2L crores paina avudi easy ga and it will take 10+ yrs but still it’s a good investment for future if at all it materializes 

[Tryad]

10 minutes ago, islander said:

Endi ee sollu..of couse metro vaste most beneficial irrespective of lower/middle/upper middle class/rich..infra projects are not only for current population, future needs ki kuda..

but 400 kms at 69K cr in 3-5 yrs pakka election gimmick..

at least 2L crores paina avudi easy ga and it will take 10+ yrs but still it’s a good investment for future if at all it materializes 

nuvvu sollu cheppi, pakkanolladhi sollu anaku. Delhi metro was already caught inflating ridership numbers.

its even more beneficial to have a mix of a cheaper BRT, bike lanes and throttling car speeds to 40km/h. Hyd doesn't need metro.

[islander]

42 minutes ago, Tryad said:

nuvvu sollu cheppi, pakkanolladhi sollu anaku. Delhi metro was already caught inflating ridership numbers.

its even more beneficial to have a mix of a cheaper BRT, bike lanes and throttling car speeds to 40km/h. Hyd doesn't need metro.

Yup, all politicians, engineers, and officials are howla gallu to invest and build such metro and you are the ultimate genius to decide it’s a waste project.

Hyderabad needs all kinds of infra for better transit..

strategic roads, flyovers, metro…20-30 yrs down the line, all will be useful..

okappudu ORR enduku annaru now it’s most useful..of course neeku kakapovachu but ppl who use it know the real value..

[hydusguy]

2 hours ago, Tryad said:

abboh.. aithe free travel pettamanu..

metro is constructed only so people like you can travel without brushing shoulders with the poor.

buses in Hyd carry 10times the traffic that metro does. When the length is increased to 400km, buses will still carry 90% of public transit traffic, like it does for Delhi.

Metro is a huge waste of public money to create an elitist mode of transport.

free pedite salaries kastam kada

[vithanda_vadhi]

1 hour ago, Tryad said:

Hyderabad metro can still be turned into a success story, if only people started building like crazy around metro.

All types of housing.. from luxury apartments, to single homes to low cost housing. everything. Such land use will push Hyd metro into the 'useful category'..

otherwise it has no use other than collar egareskotam.

Can you please suggest an area close to metro, which is not already occupied fully with crazy buildings?

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Can you please suggest an area close to metro, which is not already occupied fully with crazy buildings?

crazy buildings doing what? if enough people live in those buildings and can afford the metro, hyd metro won't be having such poor numbers.

5lakhs/day is poor for a city that is more than 10mil in population.

[sarfaroshi]

2 hours ago, hyperbole said:

It will be great for Metro connectivity, especially who commute from Eastern and southern Hyd to Western Hyd.

[Tryad]

23 minutes ago, islander said:

Yup, all politicians, engineers, and officials are howla gallu to invest and build such metro and you are the ultimate genius to decide it’s waste project.

Hyderabad needs all kinds of infra for better transit..

strategic roads, flyovers, metro…20-30 yrs down the line, all will be useful..

okappudu ORR enduku annaru now it’s most useful..of course neeku kakapovachu but ppl who use it know the real value..

I'm not the expert here. I'm only voicing expert opinion that Hyd metro is a flop, along with all other metros in India.

Hyderabad needs a good bus transit system first to serve lower trip lengths, before wasting lakhs of crores on a metro that carries only 10% of the public transit numbers.

20-30yrs down the line.. lmao. It may materialise if density around metro stations radically improves. Otherwise its just money down the drain just so some people who don't even live around the metro - coz they don't like to live in crowded areas, to feel proud about being born in Hyderabad.

its called vanity. Not a public transit project. like that patel statue.

[vithanda_vadhi]

1 hour ago, Tryad said:

dude Toronto metro is about the same length as Hyderabad, and the GTA has population half that of Hyderabad.

and it carried 1mil+ per day pre covid.

I'm not even giving you an example of the most profilic metro in the western hemisphere - NY Metro.. and close behind is the Mexico city metro.. These can be termed as successes.

having 5 lakhs/day in a city of 15million, and I don't even believe the numbers actually. Delhi Metro started this tendency to inflate ridership numbers by counting interchanges as separate trips. Delhi metro is the original flop metro that spawned a 100 metros in India none of which are useful to the public.

Bro,Toronto and hyd metro are not comparable. Toronto metro includes high capacity underground. Their recent extension itself is $12 billion. Whole Hyd metro is $3 billion project.

Toronto metro is 50 years old, hyd metro is 5 years old. Good things take time. No major project become successful overnight.

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Bro,Toronto and hyd metro are not comparable. Toronto metro includes high capacity underground. Their recent extension itself is $12 billion. Whole Hyd metro is $3 billion project.

Toronto metro is 50 years old, hyd metro is 5 years old. Good things take time. No major project become successful overnight.

the extension is not $12b, its the new ontario line that is not yet open.

how does it matter if Toronto subway is 50 years old? GTA has one-third the population of Hyd and pre-covid it carried close to 1.5m per day.. which is three times hyd metro does.

are you saying that Hyd metro was designed to not handle high capacity and just as a show off piece? if yes, I agree. Toronto subway with just about 70kms is a much superior project moving tons of people around.

but nothing close to what mexico city has achieved. comparing Hyd metro numbers to that would be shameful to mexico city btw.

[vithanda_vadhi]

29 minutes ago, Tryad said:

crazy buildings doing what? if enough people live in those buildings and can afford the metro, hyd metro won't be having such poor numbers.

5lakhs/day is poor for a city that is more than 10mil in population.

So you don't have answer. you couldn't  name a single area where it is not crazily populated around metro. 

You are assuming that areas around metro doesn't have any population because metro is not operating at full capacity. 

I don't think anyone denying the fact that 5 lakhs per day is less occupancy but knowing the city decent enough I don't agree metro is not going through populated areas.

[MysoreJackson]

32 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Can you please suggest an area close to metro, which is not already occupied fully with crazy buildings?

Uppal to ghatkesar stretch is the only one where prices are reasonable 

[Tryad]

7 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Bro,Toronto and hyd metro are not comparable. Toronto metro includes high capacity underground. Their recent extension itself is $12 billion. Whole Hyd metro is $3 billion project.

Toronto metro is 50 years old, hyd metro is 5 years old. Good things take time. No major project become successful overnight.

If Hyd keep on building the kind of Neopolis projects without investing in better land use and increasing density along the metro route, Hyd metro is never going to achieve scale, and will exist purely as a fun ride for NRIs to access the city and delude themselves that that's how the rest of the city travels too.

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

So you don't have answer. you couldn't  name a single area where it is not crazily populated around metro. 

You are assuming that areas around metro doesn't have any population because metro is not operating at full capacity. 

I don't think anyone denying the fact that 5 lakhs per day is less occupancy but knowing the city decent enough I don't agree metro is not going through populated areas.

I'm not from Hyd. I can name those areas in Chennai along the metro length where it is impossible to build dense housing, because its already dense.

but majority of people living there cannot afford metro. That's why chennai metro has an even more pathetic ridership that Hyd metro around 3lakhs/day.

compared to suburban trains that carry 30lakhs/day in chennai.

I didn't say metro is not going through populated areas. I said the areas that metro goes through does not have a healthy mix of all kinds of land use for it to be valuable to the city. Its either going through areas that are wealthy and where the poor don't have to travel farther than a couple kms (which they can walk).

this is why metro is an ill conceived project in India. and did not achieve the numbers it was designed for, and it never will probably.