400 Kms Hyderabad metro!

[vithanda_vadhi]

3 minutes ago, Tryad said:

the extension is not $12b, its the new ontario line that is not yet open.

how does it matter if Toronto subway is 50 years old? GTA has one-third the population of Hyd and pre-covid it carried close to 1.5m per day.. which is three times hyd metro does.

are you saying that Hyd metro was designed to not handle high capacity and just as a show off piece? if yes, I agree. Toronto subway with just about 70kms is a much superior project moving tons of people around.

but nothing close to what mexico city has achieved. comparing Hyd metro numbers to that would be shameful to mexico city btw.

No. There highest week day avg is 800k. Did they have 1.5 million users in 1950 or simillar metro users vs population percentage  when they constructed the rail line? It is achieved over period of time.

It seems you are quite knowledgeable around public transportation and seems you understand that Hyderabad metro is not replacement to existing public transportation. It is an argumentation to existing infra. You just want to argue that it is a flop, waste, useless. 

I will agree to disagree with you. 

[Tryad]

16 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Bro,Toronto and hyd metro are not comparable. Toronto metro includes high capacity underground. Their recent extension itself is $12 billion. Whole Hyd metro is $3 billion project.

Toronto metro is 50 years old, hyd metro is 5 years old. Good things take time. No major project become successful overnight.

Toronto serves around 30% of trips taken within Toronto. Add the bus network, and the number is close to 50% with the rest in cars.

Hyderabad serves hardly 5% (assuming based on transit numbers of hyd bus network) of the trips within Hyd. the cost of the project is irrelevant, when it actually serves a huge population.

if Hyd metro starts serving upwards of 30% trips, I'll agree that its somewhat a success. It can then aim for mexico city level greatness.

[vithanda_vadhi]

4 minutes ago, Tryad said:

I'm not from Hyd. I can name those areas in Chennai along the metro length where it is impossible to build dense housing, because its already dense.

but majority of people living there cannot afford metro. That's why chennai metro has an even more pathetic ridership that Hyd metro around 3lakhs/day.

compared to suburban trains that carry 30lakhs/day in chennai.

I didn't say metro is not going through populated areas. I said the areas that metro goes through does not have a healthy mix of all kinds of land use for it to be valuable to the city. Its either going through areas that are wealthy and where the poor don't have to travel farther than a couple kms (which they can walk).

this is why metro is an ill conceived project in India. and did not achieve the numbers it was designed for, and it never will probably.

Wow..Anna nuvvu super. Hyderabad kakunna, Hyderabad gurinchi emi teliyakunna intha mandi local vallatho argue chesthunnavu ante hatsoff.

I am from Chennai - ardamu aindi. Ee mukka Munde chepthe Muskoni vunde vallamu kada. Mee anta logical ga argue cheyyadamu maaku ekkada vasthundi anna

[Tryad]

1 minute ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

No. There highest week day avg is 800k. Did they have 1.5 million users in 1950 or simillar metro users vs population percentage  when they constructed the rail line? It is achieved over period of time.

that's why I said pre-covid. numbers halved post 2020.

and this is 2023 both in Canada and India. why would you ask for 1950 numbers? the period of time is immaterial here. Hyd is already populated with 15mil lets say.. do you expect Hyd population to grow to 30mil to achieve 1mil ridership per day? is that even an acceptable number for such wasteful expenditure? especially when there are better cheaper options available. Majority can't even afford metro.

3 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

It seems you are quite knowledgeable around public transportation and seems you understand that Hyderabad metro is not replacement to existing public transportation. It is an argumentation to existing infra. You just want to argue that it is a flop, waste, useless. 

I don't have a problem with the metro, but just the decisions that follow the creation of a metro. Metro would've better served in slightly well off areas, where density could be then improved so more people benefit from the metro.

or you can normalize ticket prices and make it the same as the bus. either one would actually be useful to the public, instead of what we have now.

[Tryad]

3 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Wow..Anna nuvvu super. Hyderabad kakunna, Hyderabad gurinchi emi teliyakunna intha mandi local vallatho argue chesthunnavu ante hatsoff.

I am from Chennai - ardamu aindi. Ee mukka Munde chepthe Muskoni vunde vallamu kada. Mee anta logical ga argue cheyyadamu maaku ekkada vasthundi anna

em different Hyd, Chennai ni compare cheste? I've hardly been to Hyd. I don't remember any location.

Hyd ridership numbers are poor. naa meedha satire esthey adhi peragadhu. It is an ill designed project, just like Chennai Metro.

 

[Tryad]

6 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Hyderabad gurinchi emi teliyakunna intha mandi local vallatho argue chesthunnavu ante hatsoff.

hyderabad local undi enti prayojanam. bubble lo unnaru meerandaru. 5lakhs/day transit ni useful antunnaru.

share autos probably carry more people than that in a day in your city.

[shaktimaan]

24 minutes ago, Tryad said:

em different Hyd, Chennai ni compare cheste? I've hardly been to Hyd. I don't remember any location.

Hyd ridership numbers are poor. naa meedha satire esthey adhi peragadhu. It is an ill designed project, just like Chennai Metro.

 

inka laagaku.. teguddi

[Tryad]

3 minutes ago, shaktimaan said:

inka laagaku.. teguddi

enti tegedhi? nenu Chennai ani ikkada naatho maatladey andariki telusu. neeku teliyaka pothey ippudu telusukunnav. good.

doesn't negate anything I said about Hyd metro, which is in fact a flop.

[MysoreJackson]

Chala mandi hyd metro flop annaru ticket cost ekkuva adi idi ani … now ridership is 5laks , it will increase more in coming years for sure … Konni measures tesukunte will be super hit like IT companies parking prices increase cheyali, good connectivity should be established till metro stations etc … ticket pricing almost same in buses n metro now … 

[Tryad]

2 minutes ago, MysoreJackson said:

Chala mandi hyd metro flop annaru ticket cost ekkuva adi idi ani … now ridership is 5laks , it will increase more in coming years for sure … Konni measures tesukunte will be super hit like IT companies parking prices increase cheyali, good connectivity should be established till metro stations etc … ticket pricing almost same in buses n metro now … 

chala mandhi ekkada annaru? nenu okkadney antunna ikkada.

IT companies parking price increase cheste emavuddi? janalu metro vaadesthaara? unless there are good bus feeder services IT company employees already are at maximum possible users of the system.

but that alone is not going to make metro achieve critical mass.

Hyd metro will never be a hit. raasko.

[chammakchandra]

3 hours ago, hyperbole said:

Arey first city traffic and drainage issues fix cheyyaka orr chuttu metro enduku bevakoof gallu! 

[islander]

33 minutes ago, Tryad said:

chala mandhi ekkada annaru? nenu okkadney antunna ikkada.

IT companies parking price increase cheste emavuddi? janalu metro vaadesthaara? unless there are good bus feeder services IT company employees already are at maximum possible users of the system.

but that alone is not going to make metro achieve critical mass.

Hyd metro will never be a hit. raasko.

Hit, flop avvadaniki idi balayya, PK la cinema lu kaadu😆😆

In country like India, ppl don’t care how govt is spending money.

Aa spend chese money entho kontha public transport ki use cheste chala better instead of freebies..

Already 5 lakh ppl ki cater aithundi antema andari perspective lo it’s doing good to society..🥂🥂

 

 

 

[islander]

25 minutes ago, chammakchandra said:

Arey first city traffic and drainage issues fix cheyyaka orr chuttu metro enduku bevakoof gallu! 

Adantha election gimmick le anna..evo 3-4 crowded routes estaru..migatha antha bisket..400 KMs of metro with 60K crores is impossible task.

Airport to Shadnagar, ORR metro and Uppal to Bibinagar next 10 years lo ayyevi kaavu

[Tryad]

9 minutes ago, islander said:

Hit, flop avvadaniki idi balayya, PK la cinema lu kaadu😆😆

In country like India, ppl don’t care how govt is spending money.

Aa spend chese money entho kontha public transport ki use cheste chala better instead of freebies..

Already 5 lakh ppl ki cater aithundi antema andari perspective lo it’s doing good to society..🥂🥂

balisina vaalla perspective lo ani cheppu.

there are much better ways to move people in poor countries like India.

[islander]

24 minutes ago, Tryad said:

balisina vaalla perspective lo ani cheppu.

there are much better ways to move people in poor countries like India.

I’m a poor/lower-middle class guy..and now I am saying Hyd Metro is doing good in my perspective!